Google set to challenge Apple's iPhone 8 & X with Oct. 4 announcement of 'Pixel 2'

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Google is preparing an Oct. 4 announcement, when the company is widely expected to reveal a second-generation Pixel phone that will go toe-to-toe with Apple's iPhone 8, and later the iPhone X.

A glimpse at what Google's hardware may look like. Image Credit: TechCrunch
A glimpse at what Google's hardware may look like. Image Credit: TechCrunch


A new webpage offers only the date and an option to sign up for email notifications, but related marketing material suggests the event is for anyone "thinking about changing phones," according to TechCrunch. Earlier this week, Google in fact raised a billboard in Boston with the Oct. 4 date, urging people to ask "more of your phone."

The "Pixel 2" is rumored to have a Qualcomm Snapdragon 835 processor, 4 gigabytes of RAM, and IP68 waterproofing, the last a notch better than the IP67 supported on the iPhone 8 and X. It may also have an always-on display like Samsung's Galaxy Note 8, and pressure-sensitive sides, enabling squeeze controls like the HTC U11.

The product should ship in both standard and XL versions, as with the original Pixel. The new XL may be the closest competitor to the iPhone X, as it's expected to have a 6-inch display with extremely narrow bezels. The X sports an edge-to-edge, 5.8-inch OLED screen.

The Pixel has captured just a tiny share of the global smartphone market so far, but has proven popular with reviewers, and represents Google's first step into self-designed phones. Earlier Nexus-series phones were Google-branded and ran pure Android, but were designed by companies like LG and Samsung.
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  • Reply 1 of 35
    Yet another HTC built, Google branded me-too product 

    How did the Pixel 1 work out for them? 
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 2 of 35
    jbdragonjbdragon Posts: 2,172member
    red oak said:
    Yet another HTC built, Google branded me-too product 

    How did the Pixel 1 work out for them? 
    Google sold less then 2 Million of them in a year. Maybe 1-1/2 million. That's pretty bad. I don't don't get the whole squeeze thing. Seems dumb to me.
    caliSpamSandwichwatto_cobra
  • Reply 3 of 35
    wood1208wood1208 Posts: 2,012member
    Last time, When Pixel was available, Google was lucky because of Samsung Note fiasco and there were not credible android phones on par with Pixel. Now LG, Samsung,Xiomi,etc has phones on market and Google have to do out-of-box features(which I doubt) to reduce the loss/cost of Pixel investment..
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 4 of 35
    Competition is good.

    I'm not sure this qualifies.

    StrangeDaysequality72521macxpresslkruppmuthuk_vanalingamSpamSandwichwatto_cobrajony0
  • Reply 5 of 35
    This is on par with Microsoft's Zune against Apple's iPod.
    caliavon b7lkruppwatto_cobrajony0
  • Reply 6 of 35
    Challenge? I looked up the benchmarks on the Snapdragon 835 and it's pretty bad compared to the A11 Bionic

    Snapdragon 835: 2059/6461
    A10 Fusion: 3924/9371
    A11 Bionic: 
    4274/10438

    Good luck with that one, Google.
    edited September 2017 watto_cobrajony0
  • Reply 7 of 35
    sog35 said:
    Google 'Challange' iPhone? LOL.

    And don't trust the IP68 waterproof rating. Remember Samsung had this same rating and those phones got waterlogged at lower depths than an iPhone with a lower rating.
    Very true: definition of ip68 is "The equipment is suitable for continuous immersion in water under conditions which shall be specified by the manufacturer" (emphasis added) so that means their water resistance could be anything and not necessarily better than iPhone's ip67.
    almondrocawatto_cobra
  • Reply 8 of 35
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 21,117member
    flyingdp said:
    sog35 said:
    Google 'Challange' iPhone? LOL.

    And don't trust the IP68 waterproof rating. Remember Samsung had this same rating and those phones got waterlogged at lower depths than an iPhone with a lower rating.
    Very true: definition of ip68 is "The equipment is suitable for continuous immersion in water under conditions which shall be specified by the manufacturer" (emphasis added) so that means their water resistance could be anything and not necessarily better than iPhone's ip67.
    http://appleinsider.com/articles/17/01/13/apples-iphone-8-to-gain-tougher-ip68-water-and-dust-resistance---report
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 9 of 35
    The only phone the Pixel 2 will challenge is the Amazon Fire phone. 
    fotoformatcaliStrangeDayswatto_cobra
  • Reply 10 of 35
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 21,117member
    The only phone the Pixel 2 will challenge is the Amazon Fire phone. 
    I know that was meant as a joke but you're probably not far off ;)
    edited September 2017 watto_cobra
  • Reply 11 of 35
    Go "toe-to-toe"?

    Give me a break. Actually, thanks for the laugh.
    SpamSandwichwatto_cobra
  • Reply 12 of 35

    Can I say "good luck with that" without sounding too much like a fanboy?

    No?  So be it.

    edited September 2017 watto_cobra
  • Reply 13 of 35
    Sorry, but Google's phone has never even come close to "challenging" the iPhone. In the end...its still just another Android phone. 
    caliStrangeDayswatto_cobra
  • Reply 14 of 35
    radarthekatradarthekat Posts: 3,133moderator
    Toe-to-toe maybe, but not face-to-face.  

    The reviewers arent dou g Google any favors by going easy on them in reviews.  They give a false impression that these Pixel phones are somehow on par with the contemporaneous iPhone, often based upon meaningless specs and screen dimensions (a couple extra millimeters).  Rather than coddled, Google should be urged to step up their game.  Ah, but consumers provide that motivation, don't we, as we purchase exponentially larger numbers of iPhones each quarter.  
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 15 of 35
    calicali Posts: 3,495member
    Why are we giving this iPhone knockoff press?

    seriously let's stop with iKnockoff news. The more we ignore them the more idiots will come to grips with reality. Android phones are cheap knockoff alternatives to iPhone, NOT iPHONES!!!!

    Headlines like "Google Pixel will challenge iPhone", "Galaxy X a great contender to iPhone" etc. give the impression that these knockoff devices are real.

    JUST IGNORE THEM. We never gave those cheap iPod knockoffs press so why are we doing it now???
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 16 of 35
    brucemcbrucemc Posts: 1,540member
    Pixel provides some small competition to Samsung, and will perhaps be some real competition for Essential Phone (since both a premium priced, niche Android audience).  It provides almost zero (perhaps a Ballmer rounding error) to iPhone.

    Will be interesting to see if Google increases shipments much YoY.  Competition in that high end Android space is higher than last year.

    Will Goog stick it out for another year if the numbers are similarly low?
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 17 of 35
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,716member
    Challenge? Haha. Sammy is challenging Apple. Google is just a bit player on its own team. 
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 18 of 35
    I hope Google succeeds Big as it will only hurt Scamscum not Apple.
  • Reply 19 of 35
    yea, truly hope Google can do way better than Pixel. Competition is good for Apple and good for consumer.
  • Reply 20 of 35
    Not sure why people keep thinking that Google designs hardware. At best they take reference designs from chip and component manufacturers and just put all the pieces together. However, they mostly put design specs based on those reference designs and turn them over to HTC or some other Cam and let them do all the work. 

    It not like they are designing the chips like Apple, or custom deign parts and work with the actual manufacturers to improve the design so it works better than the standard product everyone can get.
    watto_cobra
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