Samsung may compete more directly with Apple's Face ID via 'Galaxy S10'

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In a bid to stay competitive with the Face ID system on Apple's iPhone X, Samsung is reportedly adding 3D sensing cameras to next year's "Galaxy S10."

The Galaxy S9.
The Galaxy S9.


An Israeli firm, Mantis Vision, is working on some of the necessary technology, the Korea Herald said, citing other local reports. Mantis is allegedly collaborating with Namuga, which supplies modules for Intel's realSense cameras, in turn used by Windows laptop makers.

Samsung beat Apple to offering facial recognition on smartphones, but because its existing technology is 2D, it can potentially be defeated by still photos or even videos. Face ID is much harder to fool, generally requiring a family member -- such as a twin -- or an elaborate mask.

The Galaxy S9 depends on a rear-mounted fingerprint sensor as its main form of biometric security. That may be understandable given the difficulty Apple suppliers experienced in making the TrueDepth camera for the iPhone X, leading to its November launch. Until last year, no iPhone had ever launched later than October.

Apple is thought to be replacing Touch ID with Face ID on every major iPhone and iPad. The next upgrade is liable to happen to new iPad Pros, shipping no later than June.

Comments

  • Reply 1 of 10
    Too bad ,the S10 will still flop.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 2 of 10
    sflocalsflocal Posts: 4,339member
    Samsung beat Apple to offering facial recognition on smartphones, but because its existing technology is 2D, it can potentially be defeated by still photos or even videos. 
    Samsung's facial recognition was a perfect example of what happens when a sham-shop like Samsung puts out tech before it's even baked.  Samsung's implementation was shit, everyone knew it, and it was defeated at a trade show when Samsung was showcasing it.  This is how Samsung "innovates".
    jbdragonradarthekatwatto_cobralkruppjony0
  • Reply 3 of 10
    JFC_PAJFC_PA Posts: 257member
    Happy to see the future of Security that is real Facial recognition is being even more widely recognized. Continually impressed with the added value of my iPhone X Face ID. 
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 4 of 10
    anomeanome Posts: 1,196member

    So Samsung will probably have something close to FaceID in place by the time the next Galaxy model comes out? From reading tech news and listening to podcasts, I thought it was Apple who was always a generation behind...

    jbdragoncornchipwatto_cobra
  • Reply 5 of 10
    anome said:

    So Samsung will probably have something close to FaceID in place by the time the next Galaxy model comes out? 

    While still keeping the headphone jack and the fingerprint sensor. No chance for Apple in front of those tech reviewers.

    /s
    watto_cobrajony0
  • Reply 6 of 10
    anomeanome Posts: 1,196member
    anome said:

    So Samsung will probably have something close to FaceID in place by the time the next Galaxy model comes out? 

    While still keeping the headphone jack and the fingerprint sensor. No chance for Apple in front of those tech reviewers.

    /s
    But without the removable battery.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 7 of 10
    wood1208wood1208 Posts: 1,701member
    With much success of iPhone X's FaceID, it was expected that in 2 years, Samsung and than Chinese will adopt 3D facial recognition in there phones.
  • Reply 8 of 10
    chasmchasm Posts: 1,049member
    The fact that Samsung’s FaceID ripoff isn’t accepted for mobile payments tells you everything you need to know about it. The cycle of life repeats:

    1. Word leaks out that Apple is planning a feature.
    2. Samsung and others hastily imitate it with an extremely crappy version, knowing Apple will take a while to get it right.
    3. Samsung and/or others get to claim first to market with the feature, even though it’s crap.
    4. Apple brings feature to market, gets accused of copying the copiers.
    5. Two to five years later, copiers release revision that is 80 percent as good as Apple’s first version.
    6. Repeat.

    It is true that occasionally others come up with something and Apple later produces a much more refined version of the idea (see Microsoft and tablet computing), but that’s the exception. The above is the rule.
    edited March 2018 kevin keeradarthekatwatto_cobrajony0
  • Reply 9 of 10
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 30,415member
    Well, that’s fantastic.  /s
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 10 of 10
    cornchipcornchip Posts: 1,153member
    By which time Apple will nearly be at FaceID2.
    watto_cobra
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