Linux on a 120 MHz Power PC

proud ibook owner 2k2

Hey all... As I type this I'm trying to install Yellow Dog Linux on my dad's old Power Mac 8500. Could anyone tell me which Window Manager would work the fastest on such a slow machine? Ive heard BlackBox and IceBox are fast because theyre dont have much to run. Would I be able to get KDE or GNOME to run there well?



Thanks in advance...

PiBO2k2

proud ibook owner 2k2

Ya know... I just realzied something. The reason why I want to change my dad's old PM 8500 into a Linux box is because I wanna host a hub on Direct Connect. Then I found OPEN DC HUB. I tried to compile it but heres the error I get:





[quote] [The-Best-Computer-in-Da-House:~/opendchub-0.7.3] gasparhe% make

make all-recursive

Making all in src

gcc -g -O2 -o opendchub commands.o fileio.o main.o network.o perl_utils.o utils.o xs_functions.o /System/Library/Perl/darwin/auto/DynaLoader/DynaLoader.a -L/System/Library/Perl/darwin/CORE -lperl -lm -lc

ld: multiple definitions of symbol _admin_listening_socket

commands.o definition of _admin_listening_socket in section (__DATA,__common)

fileio.o definition of _admin_listening_socket in section (__DATA,__common)

ld: multiple definitions of symbol _admin_pass

commands.o definition of _admin_pass in section (__DATA,__common)

fileio.o definition of _admin_pass in section (__DATA,__common)

ld: multiple definitions of symbol _admin_port

commands.o definition of _admin_port in section (__DATA,__common)

fileio.o definition of _admin_port in section (__DATA,__common)

ld: multiple definitions of symbol _ban_overrides_allow

commands.o definition of _ban_overrides_allow in section (__DATA,__common)

fileio.o definition of _ban_overrides_allow in section (__DATA,__common)

ld: multiple definitions of symbol _check_key

commands.o definition of _check_key in section (__DATA,__common)

fileio.o definition of _check_key in section (__DATA,__common)

ld: multiple definitions of symbol _config_dir

commands.o definition of _config_dir in section (__DATA,__common)

fileio.o definition of _config_dir in section (__DATA,__common)

ld: multiple definitions of symbol _debug

commands.o definition of _debug in section (__DATA,__common)

fileio.o definition of _debug in section (__DATA,__common)

ld: multiple definitions of symbol _do_send_linked_hubs

commands.o definition of _do_send_linked_hubs in section (__DATA,__common)

fileio.o definition of _do_send_linked_hubs in section (__DATA,__common)

ld: multiple definitions of symbol _do_write

commands.o definition of _do_write in section (__DATA,__common)

fileio.o definition of _do_write in section (__DATA,__common)

ld: multiple definitions of symbol _hub_description

commands.o definition of _hub_description in section (__DATA,__common)

fileio.o definition of _hub_description in section (__DATA,__common)

ld: multiple definitions of symbol _hub_full_mess

commands.o definition of _hub_full_mess in section (__DATA,__common)

fileio.o definition of _hub_full_mess in section (__DATA,__common)

ld: multiple definitions of symbol _hub_hostname

commands.o definition of _hub_hostname in section (__DATA,__common)

fileio.o definition of _hub_hostname in section (__DATA,__common)

ld: multiple definitions of symbol _hub_name

commands.o definition of _hub_name in section (__DATA,__common)

fileio.o definition of _hub_name in section (__DATA,__common)

ld: multiple definitions of symbol _hublist_upload

commands.o definition of _hublist_upload in section (__DATA,__common)

fileio.o definition of _hublist_upload in section (__DATA,__common)

ld: multiple definitions of symbol _human_hash_table

commands.o definition of _human_hash_table in section (__DATA,__common)

fileio.o definition of _human_hash_table in section (__DATA,__common)

ld: multiple definitions of symbol _human_sock_list

commands.o definition of _human_sock_list in section (__DATA,__common)

fileio.o definition of _human_sock_list in section (__DATA,__common)

ld: multiple definitions of symbol _link_pass

commands.o definition of _link_pass in section (__DATA,__common)

fileio.o definition of _link_pass in section (__DATA,__common)

ld: multiple definitions of symbol _listening_port

commands.o definition of _listening_port in section (__DATA,__common)

fileio.o definition of _listening_port in section (__DATA,__common)

ld: multiple definitions of symbol _listening_socket

commands.o definition of _listening_socket in section (__DATA,__common)

fileio.o definition of _listening_socket in section (__DATA,__common)

ld: multiple definitions of symbol _listening_udp_socket

commands.o definition of _listening_udp_socket in section (__DATA,__common)

fileio.o definition of _listening_udp_socket in section (__DATA,__common)

ld: multiple definitions of symbol _listening_unx_socket

commands.o definition of _listening_unx_socket in section (__DATA,__common)

fileio.o definition of _listening_unx_socket in section (__DATA,__common)

ld: multiple definitions of symbol _max_sockets

commands.o definition of _max_sockets in section (__DATA,__common)

fileio.o definition of _max_sockets in section (__DATA,__common)

ld: multiple definitions of symbol _max_users

commands.o definition of _max_users in section (__DATA,__common)

fileio.o definition of _max_users in section (__DATA,__common)

ld: multiple definitions of symbol _min_share

commands.o definition of _min_share in section (__DATA,__common)

fileio.o definition of _min_share in section (__DATA,__common)

ld: multiple definitions of symbol _min_version

commands.o definition of _min_version in section (__DATA,__common)

fileio.o definition of _min_version in section (__DATA,__common)

ld: multiple definitions of symbol _non_human_user_list

commands.o definition of _non_human_user_list in section (__DATA,__common)

fileio.o definition of _non_human_user_list in section (__DATA,__common)

ld: multiple definitions of symbol _pid

commands.o definition of _pid in section (__DATA,__common)

fileio.o definition of _pid in section (__DATA,__common)

ld: multiple definitions of symbol _public_hub_host

commands.o definition of _public_hub_host in section (__DATA,__common)

fileio.o definition of _public_hub_host in section (__DATA,__common)

ld: multiple definitions of symbol _quit

commands.o definition of _quit in section (__DATA,__common)

fileio.o definition of _quit in section (__DATA,__common)

ld: multiple definitions of symbol _redir_on_min_share

commands.o definition of _redir_on_min_share in section (__DATA,__common)

fileio.o definition of _redir_on_min_share in section (__DATA,__common)

ld: multiple definitions of symbol _redirect_host

commands.o definition of _redirect_host in section (__DATA,__common)

fileio.o definition of _redirect_host in section (__DATA,__common)

ld: multiple definitions of symbol _registered_only

commands.o definition of _registered_only in section (__DATA,__common)

fileio.o definition of _registered_only in section (__DATA,__common)

ld: multiple definitions of symbol _reverse_dns

commands.o definition of _reverse_dns in section (__DATA,__common)

fileio.o definition of _reverse_dns in section (__DATA,__common)

ld: multiple definitions of symbol _script_reload

commands.o definition of _script_reload in section (__DATA,__common)

fileio.o definition of _script_reload in section (__DATA,__common)

ld: multiple definitions of symbol _total_share

commands.o definition of _total_share in section (__DATA,__common)

fileio.o definition of _total_share in section (__DATA,__common)

ld: multiple definitions of symbol _un_sock_path

commands.o definition of _un_sock_path in section (__DATA,__common)

fileio.o definition of _un_sock_path in section (__DATA,__common)

ld: multiple definitions of symbol _upload

commands.o definition of _upload in section (__DATA,__common)

fileio.o definition of _upload in section (__DATA,__common)

ld: multiple definitions of symbol _user_list_file

commands.o definition of _user_list_file in section (__DATA,__common)

fileio.o definition of _user_list_file in section (__DATA,__common)

ld: multiple definitions of symbol _users_per_fork

commands.o definition of _users_per_fork in section (__DATA,__common)

fileio.o definition of _users_per_fork in section (__DATA,__common)

ld: multiple definitions of symbol _verbosity

commands.o definition of _verbosity in section (__DATA,__common)

fileio.o definition of _verbosity in section (__DATA,__common)

main.o definition of _admin_listening_socket in section (__DATA,__common)

main.o definition of _admin_pass in section (__DATA,__common)

main.o definition of _admin_port in section (__DATA,__common)

main.o definition of _ban_overrides_allow in section (__DATA,__common)

main.o definition of _check_key in section (__DATA,__common)

main.o definition of _config_dir in section (__DATA,__common)

main.o definition of _debug in section (__DATA,__common)

main.o definition of _do_send_linked_hubs in section (__DATA,__common)

main.o definition of _do_write in section (__DATA,__common)

main.o definition of _hub_description in section (__DATA,__common)

main.o definition of _hub_full_mess in section (__DATA,__common)

main.o definition of _hub_hostname in section (__DATA,__common)

main.o definition of _hub_name in section (__DATA,__common)

main.o definition of _hublist_upload in section (__DATA,__common)

main.o definition of _human_hash_table in section (__DATA,__common)

main.o definition of _human_sock_list in section (__DATA,__common)

main.o definition of _link_pass in section (__DATA,__common)

main.o definition of _listening_port in section (__DATA,__common)

main.o definition of _listening_socket in section (__DATA,__common)

main.o definition of _listening_udp_socket in section (__DATA,__common)

main.o definition of _listening_unx_socket in section (__DATA,__common)

main.o definition of _max_sockets in section (__DATA,__common)

main.o definition of _max_users in section (__DATA,__common)

main.o definition of _min_share in section (__DATA,__common)

main.o definition of _min_version in section (__DATA,__common)

main.o definition of _non_human_user_list in section (__DATA,__common)

main.o definition of _pid in section (__DATA,__common)

main.o definition of _public_hub_host in section (__DATA,__common)

main.o definition of _quit in section (__DATA,__common)

main.o definition of _redir_on_min_share in section (__DATA,__common)

main.o definition of _redirect_host in section (__DATA,__common)

main.o definition of _registered_only in section (__DATA,__common)

main.o definition of _reverse_dns in section (__DATA,__common)

main.o definition of _script_reload in section (__DATA,__common)

main.o definition of _total_share in section (__DATA,__common)

main.o definition of _un_sock_path in section (__DATA,__common)

main.o definition of _upload in section (__DATA,__common)

main.o definition of _user_list_file in section (__DATA,__common)

main.o definition of _users_per_fork in section (__DATA,__common)

main.o definition of _verbosity in section (__DATA,__common)

network.o definition of _admin_listening_socket in section (__DATA,__common)

network.o definition of _admin_pass in section (__DATA,__common)

network.o definition of _admin_port in section (__DATA,__common)

network.o definition of _ban_overrides_allow in section (__DATA,__common)

network.o definition of _check_key in section (__DATA,__common)

network.o definition of _config_dir in section (__DATA,__common)

network.o definition of _debug in section (__DATA,__common)

network.o definition of _do_send_linked_hubs in section (__DATA,__common)

network.o definition of _do_write in section (__DATA,__common)

network.o definition of _hub_description in section (__DATA,__common)

network.o definition of _hub_full_mess in section (__DATA,__common)

network.o definition of _hub_hostname in section (__DATA,__common)

network.o definition of _hub_name in section (__DATA,__common)

network.o definition of _hublist_upload in section (__DATA,__common)

network.o definition of _human_hash_table in section (__DATA,__common)

network.o definition of _human_sock_list in section (__DATA,__common)

network.o definition of _link_pass in section (__DATA,__common)

network.o definition of _listening_port in section (__DATA,__common)

network.o definition of _listening_socket in section (__DATA,__common)

network.o definition of _listening_udp_socket in section (__DATA,__common)

network.o definition of _listening_unx_socket in section (__DATA,__common)

network.o definition of _max_sockets in section (__DATA,__common)

network.o definition of _max_users in section (__DATA,__common)

network.o definition of _min_share in section (__DATA,__common)

network.o definition of _min_version in section (__DATA,__common)

network.o definition of _non_human_user_list in section (__DATA,__common)

network.o definition of _pid in section (__DATA,__common)

network.o definition of _public_hub_host in section (__DATA,__common)

network.o definition of _quit in section (__DATA,__common)

network.o definition of _redir_on_min_share in section (__DATA,__common)

network.o definition of _redirect_host in section (__DATA,__common)

network.o definition of _registered_only in section (__DATA,__common)

network.o definition of _reverse_dns in section (__DATA,__common)

network.o definition of _script_reload in section (__DATA,__common)

network.o definition of _total_share in section (__DATA,__common)

network.o definition of _un_sock_path in section (__DATA,__common)

network.o definition of _upload in section (__DATA,__common)

network.o definition of _user_list_file in section (__DATA,__common)

network.o definition of _users_per_fork in section (__DATA,__common)

network.o definition of _verbosity in section (__DATA,__common)

perl_utils.o definition of _admin_listening_socket in section (__DATA,__common)

perl_utils.o definition of _admin_pass in section (__DATA,__common)

perl_utils.o definition of _admin_port in section (__DATA,__common)

perl_utils.o definition of _ban_overrides_allow in section (__DATA,__common)

perl_utils.o definition of _check_key in section (__DATA,__common)

perl_utils.o definition of _config_dir in section (__DATA,__common)

perl_utils.o definition of _debug in section (__DATA,__common)

perl_utils.o definition of _do_send_linked_hubs in section (__DATA,__common)

perl_utils.o definition of _do_write in section (__DATA,__common)

perl_utils.o definition of _hub_description in section (__DATA,__common)

perl_utils.o definition of _hub_full_mess in section (__DATA,__common)

perl_utils.o definition of _hub_hostname in section (__DATA,__common)

perl_utils.o definition of _hub_name in section (__DATA,__common)

perl_utils.o definition of _hublist_upload in section (__DATA,__common)

perl_utils.o definition of _human_hash_table in section (__DATA,__common)

perl_utils.o definition of _human_sock_list in section (__DATA,__common)

perl_utils.o definition of _link_pass in section (__DATA,__common)

perl_utils.o definition of _listening_port in section (__DATA,__common)

perl_utils.o definition of _listening_socket in section (__DATA,__common)

perl_utils.o definition of _listening_udp_socket in section (__DATA,__common)

perl_utils.o definition of _listening_unx_socket in section (__DATA,__common)

perl_utils.o definition of _max_sockets in section (__DATA,__common)

perl_utils.o definition of _max_users in section (__DATA,__common)

perl_utils.o definition of _min_share in section (__DATA,__common)

perl_utils.o definition of _min_version in section (__DATA,__common)

perl_utils.o definition of _non_human_user_list in section (__DATA,__common)

perl_utils.o definition of _pid in section (__DATA,__common)

perl_utils.o definition of _public_hub_host in section (__DATA,__common)

perl_utils.o definition of _quit in section (__DATA,__common)

perl_utils.o definition of _redir_on_min_share in section (__DATA,__common)

perl_utils.o definition of _redirect_host in section (__DATA,__common)

perl_utils.o definition of _registered_only in section (__DATA,__common)

perl_utils.o definition of _reverse_dns in section (__DATA,__common)

perl_utils.o definition of _script_reload in section (__DATA,__common)

perl_utils.o definition of _total_share in section (__DATA,__common)

perl_utils.o definition of _un_sock_path in section (__DATA,__common)

perl_utils.o definition of _upload in section (__DATA,__common)

perl_utils.o definition of _user_list_file in section (__DATA,__common)

perl_utils.o definition of _users_per_fork in section (__DATA,__common)

perl_utils.o definition of _verbosity in section (__DATA,__common)

utils.o definition of _admin_listening_socket in section (__DATA,__common)

utils.o definition of _admin_pass in section (__DATA,__common)

utils.o definition of _admin_port in section (__DATA,__common)

utils.o definition of _ban_overrides_allow in section (__DATA,__common)

utils.o definition of _check_key in section (__DATA,__common)

utils.o definition of _config_dir in section (__DATA,__common)

utils.o definition of _debug in section (__DATA,__common)

utils.o definition of _do_send_linked_hubs in section (__DATA,__common)

utils.o definition of _do_write in section (__DATA,__common)

utils.o definition of _hub_description in section (__DATA,__common)

utils.o definition of _hub_full_mess in section (__DATA,__common)

utils.o definition of _hub_hostname in section (__DATA,__common)

utils.o definition of _hub_name in section (__DATA,__common)

utils.o definition of _hublist_upload in section (__DATA,__common)

utils.o definition of _human_hash_table in section (__DATA,__common)

utils.o definition of _human_sock_list in section (__DATA,__common)

utils.o definition of _link_pass in section (__DATA,__common)

utils.o definition of _listening_port in section (__DATA,__common)

utils.o definition of _listening_socket in section (__DATA,__common)

utils.o definition of _listening_udp_socket in section (__DATA,__common)

utils.o definition of _listening_unx_socket in section (__DATA,__common)

utils.o definition of _max_sockets in section (__DATA,__common)

utils.o definition of _max_users in section (__DATA,__common)

utils.o definition of _min_share in section (__DATA,__common)

utils.o definition of _min_version in section (__DATA,__common)

utils.o definition of _non_human_user_list in section (__DATA,__common)

utils.o definition of _pid in section (__DATA,__common)

utils.o definition of _public_hub_host in section (__DATA,__common)

utils.o definition of _quit in section (__DATA,__common)

utils.o definition of _redir_on_min_share in section (__DATA,__common)

utils.o definition of _redirect_host in section (__DATA,__common)

utils.o definition of _registered_only in section (__DATA,__common)

utils.o definition of _reverse_dns in section (__DATA,__common)

utils.o definition of _script_reload in section (__DATA,__common)

utils.o definition of _total_share in section (__DATA,__common)

utils.o definition of _un_sock_path in section (__DATA,__common)

utils.o definition of _upload in section (__DATA,__common)

utils.o definition of _user_list_file in section (__DATA,__common)

utils.o definition of _users_per_fork in section (__DATA,__common)

utils.o definition of _verbosity in section (__DATA,__common)

xs_functions.o definition of _admin_listening_socket in section (__DATA,__common)

xs_functions.o definition of _admin_pass in section (__DATA,__common)

xs_functions.o definition of _admin_port in section (__DATA,__common)

xs_functions.o definition of _ban_overrides_allow in section (__DATA,__common)

xs_functions.o definition of _check_key in section (__DATA,__common)

xs_functions.o definition of _config_dir in section (__DATA,__common)

xs_functions.o definition of _debug in section (__DATA,__common)

xs_functions.o definition of _do_send_linked_hubs in section (__DATA,__common)

xs_functions.o definition of _do_write in section (__DATA,__common)

xs_functions.o definition of _hub_description in section (__DATA,__common)

xs_functions.o definition of _hub_full_mess in section (__DATA,__common)

xs_functions.o definition of _hub_hostname in section (__DATA,__common)

xs_functions.o definition of _hub_name in section (__DATA,__common)

xs_functions.o definition of _hublist_upload in section (__DATA,__common)

xs_functions.o definition of _human_hash_table in section (__DATA,__common)

xs_functions.o definition of _human_sock_list in section (__DATA,__common)

xs_functions.o definition of _link_pass in section (__DATA,__common)

xs_functions.o definition of _listening_port in section (__DATA,__common)

xs_functions.o definition of _listening_socket in section (__DATA,__common)

xs_functions.o definition of _listening_udp_socket in section (__DATA,__common)

xs_functions.o definition of _listening_unx_socket in section (__DATA,__common)

xs_functions.o definition of _max_sockets in section (__DATA,__common)

xs_functions.o definition of _max_users in section (__DATA,__common)

xs_functions.o definition of _min_share in section (__DATA,__common)

xs_functions.o definition of _min_version in section (__DATA,__common)

xs_functions.o definition of _non_human_user_list in section (__DATA,__common)

xs_functions.o definition of _pid in section (__DATA,__common)

xs_functions.o definition of _public_hub_host in section (__DATA,__common)

xs_functions.o definition of _quit in section (__DATA,__common)

xs_functions.o definition of _redir_on_min_share in section (__DATA,__common)

xs_functions.o definition of _redirect_host in section (__DATA,__common)

xs_functions.o definition of _registered_only in section (__DATA,__common)

xs_functions.o definition of _reverse_dns in section (__DATA,__common)

xs_functions.o definition of _script_reload in section (__DATA,__common)

xs_functions.o definition of _total_share in section (__DATA,__common)

xs_functions.o definition of _un_sock_path in section (__DATA,__common)

xs_functions.o definition of _upload in section (__DATA,__common)

xs_functions.o definition of _user_list_file in section (__DATA,__common)

xs_functions.o definition of _users_per_fork in section (__DATA,__common)

xs_functions.o definition of _verbosity in section (__DATA,__common)

make[2]: *** [opendchub] Error 1

make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1

make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 <hr></blockquote>



That's quoted from a Terminal session I had. How do I get rid of that make error? Also the configure script showed me some errors... Would it help if I posted that as well?

cybermonkey

your right in that black box would be quicker,though flux box and window maker will give you more pleasure. You can run kde or gnome apps running straight from any window manager, all you need is to have the corresponding libaries installed.

the best way to do this esp with an RPM based distro is just install kde, gnome, blackbox etc, from a fresh install and then boot into blackbox.

proud ibook owner 2k2

heh Cyber monkey can you help with my second post there? look ^

cybermonkey

possible causes for that make era are wrong version of gcc, missing libaries or it might be something you can ignore, id check the developers readme or webby for more details on requirments.

proud ibook owner 2k2

ok... how do I upgrade my version of GCC?



[ 01-04-2003: Message edited by: Proud iBook Owner 2k2 ]</p>

cybermonkey

got to <a href="http://sourceforge.net"; target="_blank">http://sourceforge.net</a>; and do a search for GCC if you can download an rpm it would be a help and then just do a rpm -Uvh &lt;filename&gt; to upgrade.

failing that download a tarball of that file you want instead of an RPM and do

./configure

make

&lt;as root&gt;

make install.

you always get a better install when you compile from source as itrs tailored for your machine whereas RPMS are compiled on one machine and its potluck with other peeps machines.

razzfazz

[quote]Originally posted by Proud iBook Owner 2k2:

<strong>ok... how do I upgrade my version of GCC?



[ 01-04-2003: Message edited by: Proud iBook Owner 2k2 ]</strong><hr></blockquote>



Seeing your error messages, I'd first try to upgrade your Perl installation, rather than try and replace GCC. I think the latest release of OpenDCHub needs at least Perl 5.6, and I believe I got similar errors to yours when I tried to build it on my FreeBSD box (which has Perl 5.0 installed by default).



Bye,

RazzFazz

proud ibook owner 2k2

[quote]Originally posted by RazzFazz:

<strong>



Seeing your error messages, I'd first try to upgrade your Perl installation, rather than try and replace GCC. I think the latest release of OpenDCHub needs at least Perl 5.6, and I believe I got similar errors to yours when I tried to build it on my FreeBSD box (which has Perl 5.0 installed by default).



Bye,

RazzFazz</strong><hr></blockquote>



Ive done all that.... and I still get that MAKE error.. I even tried to update my GNU make... but that didnt work... any sugestions? heres that error again:



make[2]: *** [opendchub] Error 1

make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1

make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2

proud ibook owner 2k2

If i cant get Open DC to work I'd like to keep trying to get Linux installed on my dads old power mac. Ive tried to mount the the YDL CD that I burned onto the desktop... Its only mounted once. All the other times it would just spin endlessly in the 8500's quad speed CD rom drive. Could there be an extension thats not allowing that CD-R to mount? Thanks in advance....