The Wall Street Journal reportedly joins Apple News service, NYT and Washington Post decli...

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According to a report on Wednesday, The Wall Street Journal plans to join Apple's widely rumored for-pay news service, one of only a handful of top-tier publications thought to be participating in the initiative.




Citing people familiar with the deal, The New York Times reports The WSJ has acquiesced to Apple's revenue sharing terms and will join the tech giant as a launch partner of a new subscription news service set for unveiling at a special event on March 25.

The WSJ will be a rare jewel in the proverbial Apple News crown. As reconfirmed by today's report, other large publications like The Washington Post, and The Times itself, have not signaled intent to join Apple's new venture.

A major sticking point for publishers is Apple's supposed terms for inclusion in the forthcoming service. Previous reports claimed the iPhone maker is demanding a 50 percent cut of revenue on what is expected to be a $10 per month subscription. The remaining 50 percent will supposedly be pooled and subsequently meted out evenly amongst participating publishers.

Publications with their own subscription program, like The Post, likely see little upside to Apple's model as they charge similar rates for access to first-party content. The Times, for example, charges subscribers $15 per month.

The Times echoed the previously reported 50 percent figure on Wednesday, adding that Apple is also seeking unlimited access to all content produced by potential partners. With terms 20 percent more dear than Apple's customary 30 percent App Store fee (which turns into 15 percent on subscriptions older than a year), customer data restrictions and onerous content demands, publishers are hesitant to join the service.

Apple is reportedly leveraging a massive install base -- 900 million active iPhones -- as a key selling point in its negotiations, arguing the news product will expose publisher content to millions of new users. Established news outlets, however, have for the most part not taken the bait.

AppleInsider will be on the scene in Cupertino with live coverage of Apple's March 25 press event starting at 10 a.m. Pacific, 1 p.m. Eastern.
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  • Reply 1 of 77
    78Bandit78Bandit Posts: 227member
    If the rumored terms are correct and the newspapers are going to make full .pdf copies of the papers available through Apple News Service then I'll be one happy camper.  My teaser rate of $20 a month for the WSJ runs out this month and would jump to $40.  I could probably call and haggle with them for digital-only access and get them down to something like $25 - $30, but for only $10 a month for Apple News it looks like I'll be cancelling my individual subscription pretty quick.

    Any other available news sources would just be icing on the cake at that point.
    edited March 20 racerhomie3GeorgeBMac
  • Reply 2 of 77
    What’s a Wall Street Journal?
    lordjohnwhorfin
  • Reply 3 of 77
    I remember the music industry being against iTunes selling single songs and later against streaming.

    Printed newspapers and magazines are a dying breed, and the publishers are still stuck in the same mentality the music industry was (you want that song, you gotta buy the whole CD).

    They’ll all come around eventually.
    StrangeDaysMisterKit
  • Reply 4 of 77
    DAalsethDAalseth Posts: 507member
    Sounds like this will be quite a service. I don't expect to be on board though. The free News App has never been available in Canada. I doubt the pay service will be available here either. Regardless, $10/mo is more than I want to pay. I just don't have time to to read enough to make it worth it. I'll stick to BBC and CBC.
    edited March 20
  • Reply 5 of 77
    stevenozstevenoz Posts: 222member

    The New York Times is worth every penny you pay it... for top-level news coverage. Thank God for them.

    Too bad Bezos won't give up his love of  profit, but that's that.

    I'll definitely subscribe to Apple News Service long enough to see if it is worth it to me... and if I have enough time to also read the NYT, the Guardian, the Huffington Post, and The Nation, that I subscribe to.

    All Americans _need_ to be informed in these dark days of Donald. It's your civic duty.

    edited March 20 DAalsethdelreyjonesmuthuk_vanalingamspice-boylordjohnwhorfin
  • Reply 6 of 77
    This news doesn’t hurt my feelings at all. The New York Slimes isn’t really news anymore.  
    macseeker80s_Apple_Guy
  • Reply 7 of 77
    It will be interesting to see how the NYT, WSJ and WaPo report on the announcement.  I have no doubt that the journalists who feel that Apple has done their employer wrong will let that bleed through into their coverage (editorial "firewalls" notwithstanding).
    racerhomie3repressthis
  • Reply 8 of 77
    This news doesn’t hurt my feelings at all. The New York Slimes isn’t really news anymore.  
    Agreed, they don’t share my opinion at all so thanks...
  • Reply 9 of 77
    stevenozstevenoz Posts: 222member
    Dead_Pool said:
    What’s a Wall Street Journal?
    https://www.wsj.com/
  • Reply 10 of 77
    fastasleepfastasleep Posts: 2,541member
    stevenoz said:

    Too bad Bezos won't give up his love of  profit, but that's that.
    Well, it is currently a value-add for Prime members at $3.99/mo (vs $9.99/mo), so this Apple News thing competes with that. It's understandable.

    This news doesn’t hurt my feelings at all. The New York Slimes isn’t really news anymore.  
    Absolutely ridiculous. I read the 125 Pulitzer Prize-winning NYT every day and it's chock full of news — maybe you bought a knockoff?

    You Fake News™ types are really just clearly suckers for the age-old propaganda/disinformation campaign that Trump is recycling from the Soviets, Nazis, tin pot dictatorships, etc. Oldest trick in the book.
    bonobobchiaStrangeDaysmuthuk_vanalingamGeorgeBMac78BanditlordjohnwhorfinDAalseth
  • Reply 11 of 77
    AppleishAppleish Posts: 104member
    Already have a subscription to WaPo to pwn Individual 1.

    Don't want the New York Times, because they are crap journalism.

    Everything I ever want to read on WSJ is usually pushed beyond the paywall, but ok I guess.
    lordjohnwhorfin
  • Reply 12 of 77
    racerhomie3racerhomie3 Posts: 1,014member
    Dead_Pool said:
    What’s a Wall Street Journal?
    An old reliable news source from the 1800s.
    ttollertonmacseekerrepressthisbeowulfschmidt
  • Reply 13 of 77
    racerhomie3racerhomie3 Posts: 1,014member
    stevenoz said:

    The New York Times is worth every penny you pay it... for top-level news coverage. Thank God for them.

    Too bad Bezos won't give up his love of  profit, but that's that.

    I'll definitely subscribe to Apple News Service long enough to see if it is worth it to me... and if I have enough time to also read the NYT, the Guardian, the Huffington Post, and The Nation, that I subscribe to.

    All Americans _need_ to be informed in these dark days of Donald. It's your civic duty.

    I don’t like Donald very much, but dark days? Where were these truth tellers in Obama years?
    mwhitejbdragon80s_Apple_Guymike1
  • Reply 14 of 77
    stevenoz said:

    The New York Times is worth every penny you pay it... for top-level news coverage. Thank God for them.

    Too bad Bezos won't give up his love of  profit, but that's that.

    I'll definitely subscribe to Apple News Service long enough to see if it is worth it to me... and if I have enough time to also read the NYT, the Guardian, the Huffington Post, and The Nation, that I subscribe to.

    All Americans _need_ to be informed in these dark days of Donald. It's your civic duty.

    Yes, we really need NYT and WaPo to put out 10 stories a day about trump based on unsubstantiated anonymous leakers in these “dark days” lol. What a joke. 

    We don’t need agenda-based, biased MSM organizations that consistently put out 93% negative coverage of one person. That’s not news. That’s biased opinion fed to sheep.

    Apple may be one of the only hopes to facilitate objective journalism. I’m actually very much looking forward for trying out the Apple news service. 
    edited March 20 mwhitemacseekerjbdragon80s_Apple_Guy
  • Reply 15 of 77


    This news doesn’t hurt my feelings at all. The New York Slimes isn’t really news anymore.  
    Absolutely ridiculous. I read the 125 Pulitzer Prize-winning NYT every day and it's chock full of news — maybe you bought a knockoff?

    You Fake News™ types are really just clearly suckers for the age-old propaganda/disinformation campaign that Trump is recycling from the Soviets, Nazis, tin pot dictatorships, etc. Oldest trick in the book.
    I simply said I didn’t like the New York Times (“Slimes”) and you have resorted to name-calling; have immediately assumed I am Trump supporter; and suggested that I support Nazi tactics for spreading propaganda.  

    Good grief.  Let’s go ahead and lock comments, shall we admins?
    macseekerjbdragon
  • Reply 16 of 77
    fastasleepfastasleep Posts: 2,541member


    This news doesn’t hurt my feelings at all. The New York Slimes isn’t really news anymore.  
    Absolutely ridiculous. I read the 125 Pulitzer Prize-winning NYT every day and it's chock full of news — maybe you bought a knockoff?

    You Fake News™ types are really just clearly suckers for the age-old propaganda/disinformation campaign that Trump is recycling from the Soviets, Nazis, tin pot dictatorships, etc. Oldest trick in the book.
    I simply said I didn’t like the New York Times (“Slimes”) and you have resorted to name-calling; have immediately assumed I am Trump supporter; and suggested that I support Nazi tactics for spreading propaganda.  

    Good grief.  Let’s go ahead and lock comments, shall we admins?
    I was responding to the assertion that "isn’t really news anymore" which is essentially calling it Fake News™, hence the reference. I don't know why anyone who isn't getting the Fake News™ bs fed to them would think that, maybe you can explain what you mean?
    n2itivguyStrangeDaysGeorgeBMac
  • Reply 17 of 77
    chadbagchadbag Posts: 1,076member
    The NYT ceased being objective journalism and new reporters years ago.   Even if articles contain lots of actual facts, the headlines and ways those facts are reported are biased to push the liberal progressive or sometimes just the Democrat view.  They've long been a joke. 
    mwhitepatchythepiratemacseekerjbdragon80s_Apple_Guymike178Banditttollerton
  • Reply 18 of 77
    Great news about WSJ joining.  Will definitely give the new Apple news service a try.
    patchythepirate
  • Reply 19 of 77
    StrangeDaysStrangeDays Posts: 7,085member
    stevenoz said:

    The New York Times is worth every penny you pay it... for top-level news coverage. Thank God for them.

    Too bad Bezos won't give up his love of  profit, but that's that.

    I'll definitely subscribe to Apple News Service long enough to see if it is worth it to me... and if I have enough time to also read the NYT, the Guardian, the Huffington Post, and The Nation, that I subscribe to.

    All Americans _need_ to be informed in these dark days of Donald. It's your civic duty.

    I don’t like Donald very much, but dark days? Where were these truth tellers in Obama years?
    He wasn’t fucking up the country every week while lining his pockets and those of family members while also banging porn stars and bribing them to keep quiet about it. Oh and sucking up to dictators who he believes are “good guys”. None of this is normal presidential behavior. We didn’t have to talk about it during the Obama years because none of that happened. This isn’t rocket science. 
    edited March 21 muthuk_vanalingamspice-boyGeorgeBMaclordjohnwhorfinfastasleep
  • Reply 20 of 77
    StrangeDaysStrangeDays Posts: 7,085member

    stevenoz said:

    The New York Times is worth every penny you pay it... for top-level news coverage. Thank God for them.

    Too bad Bezos won't give up his love of  profit, but that's that.

    I'll definitely subscribe to Apple News Service long enough to see if it is worth it to me... and if I have enough time to also read the NYT, the Guardian, the Huffington Post, and The Nation, that I subscribe to.

    All Americans _need_ to be informed in these dark days of Donald. It's your civic duty.

    Yes, we really need NYT and WaPo to put out 10 stories a day about trump based on unsubstantiated anonymous leakers in these “dark days” lol. What a joke. 

    We don’t need agenda-based, biased MSM organizations that consistently put out 93% negative coverage of one person. That’s not news. That’s biased opinion fed to sheep.

    Apple may be one of the only hopes to facilitate objective journalism. I’m actually very much looking forward for trying out the Apple news service. 
    Hey what happened, you were triggered last week over the Trump stories here and said you wouldn’t be returning? Yet...here you are, and seemingly triggered again.
    spice-boyGeorgeBMaclordjohnwhorfinfastasleep
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