Apple Card Disaster Relief Program eases financial burden in times of crisis

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Apple is now offering a disaster relief program for the Apple Card, which halts interest and delays one payment to those who apply.

Image Credit: MacRumors
Image Credit: MacRumors


The emails likely get sent out Apple Card cardholders whose address matches an area that has been affected by a natural disaster. Disasters would likely include flooding, earthquakes, wild fires, hurricanes, and more.

Houston has recently experienced flooding due to tropical storm Imelda. Following the inclement weather and resultant flooding, a MacRumors reader received an email invitation to apply for the Apple Card Disaster Relief Program.

The email details the benefits of the program, most notably a two-month interest-free period and the ability to skip payments for the first month that a person enrolls.

  • No interest for two months, starting with the month you enroll. After two months, your standard purchase APR will apply.

  • You can skip the payment due in the month you enroll.

  • If your account is in good standing, you will remain current while enrolled.

  • If your account is past due, your account will not go further delinquent while enrolled. However, your account will remain paste due until you make all of your past due payments and your ability to make new purchases may continue to be restricted.

According to the email, those who may wish to apply for the Apple Card Disaster Relief Program should contact an Apple Card specialist after receiving the email.

Comments

  • Reply 1 of 20
    I'm in the UK and I've never heard of anything like this before - and I don't know if this is something that is offered by other providers in the US, but regardless, this seems like a fantastic commitment to the needs and welfare of the customer and more than likely to prompt good customer loyalty. Definitely a 'one good turn' sort of thing. I'm very impressed.
  • Reply 2 of 20
    I'm in the UK and I've never heard of anything like this before - and I don't know if this is something that is offered by other providers in the US, but regardless, this seems like a fantastic commitment to the needs and welfare of the customer and more than likely to prompt good customer loyalty. Definitely a 'one good turn' sort of thing. I'm very impressed.
    This is pretty common from a financial services platform. Many banks (regional and national) offer things like waiving atm fees, no overdraft fees, delaying any type of line of credit payment (credit card, mortgage, etc.) Good that Goldman Sachs made that happen. 
  • Reply 3 of 20
    razorpitrazorpit Posts: 1,074member
    While a nice gesture I believe just about every major card out there offers something similar. What they don’t tell you is the interest collected from everyone else will more than make up for whoever is enrolled in this program.
  • Reply 4 of 20
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 21,289member
    I'm in the UK and I've never heard of anything like this before - and I don't know if this is something that is offered by other providers in the US, but regardless, this seems like a fantastic commitment to the needs and welfare of the customer and more than likely to prompt good customer loyalty. Definitely a 'one good turn' sort of thing. I'm very impressed.
    Yes it's very common as we in Florida know. What's not as well known is how the programs work, so folks need to read the fine print.

    Payments are delayed but not forgiven. If you were slated to make a $200 payment in Sept. and get a 60 day reprieve then in November your payment won't be the standard $200 but $600, immediately due and payable.

    My daughter got burned by this two years ago when her mortgage company said they "sympathized" with those impacted by a recent hurricane. All she had to do was let them know she wanted to accept their offer of a three month grace while she got her finances back in order. Huge mistake. The lender (Wells Fargo) then required her to sign new mortgage documents with revised terms, be put on a special default payment plan where if one payment was late in the future, even by a day, she acknowledged default and the house going into immediate foreclosure. With more than 10 years left and who knows what might happen even by accident it makes it a serious obligation.

    Lenders are not your friend, and understanding goes only so far as profit. Business is business. Anyone who decides to take advantage of these "grace periods" needs to be aware of the details.
    edited October 10 larryjwspice-boyrazorpit
  • Reply 5 of 20
    Rayz2016Rayz2016 Posts: 4,788member
    I'm in the UK and I've never heard of anything like this before

    We don't usually have the infrastructure-destroying disasters they see in other parts of the world.



    razorpit
  • Reply 6 of 20
    The current level of dumbness is accelerating climate change. Does that count?
  • Reply 7 of 20
    AppleExposedAppleExposed Posts: 1,687unconfirmed, member
    "What a greedy company!!!!!!111123"

    gatorguy said:
    I'm in the UK and I've never heard of anything like this before - and I don't know if this is something that is offered by other providers in the US, but regardless, this seems like a fantastic commitment to the needs and welfare of the customer and more than likely to prompt good customer loyalty. Definitely a 'one good turn' sort of thing. I'm very impressed.
    Yes it's very common as we in Florida know. 


    Off-topic but: So you're in Florida? I remember asking where you were from because you said you'd never seen an Apple Watch in public but I forgot what thread I asked you in. I figured you were in a very impoverished location.

    Is this still the case? Because Apple Watches are all over America. I saw over 25 yesterday and I wasn't "out on the town" and I was in a lower-class part of town.

  • Reply 8 of 20
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 21,289member
    "What a greedy company!!!!!!111123"

    gatorguy said:
    I'm in the UK and I've never heard of anything like this before - and I don't know if this is something that is offered by other providers in the US, but regardless, this seems like a fantastic commitment to the needs and welfare of the customer and more than likely to prompt good customer loyalty. Definitely a 'one good turn' sort of thing. I'm very impressed.
    Yes it's very common as we in Florida know. 


    Off-topic but: So you're in Florida? I remember asking where you were from because you said you'd never seen an Apple Watch in public but I forgot what thread I asked you in. I figured you were in a very impoverished location.

    Is this still the case? Because Apple Watches are all over America. I saw over 25 yesterday and I wasn't "out on the town" and I was in a lower-class part of town.

    And I still haven't taken note of one, and no it is not an impoverished third-world community either. You still don't get why you see them and I don't? Perhaps you're not as thoughtful as I assumed. 
  • Reply 9 of 20
    gatorguy said:
    "What a greedy company!!!!!!111123"

    gatorguy said:
    I'm in the UK and I've never heard of anything like this before - and I don't know if this is something that is offered by other providers in the US, but regardless, this seems like a fantastic commitment to the needs and welfare of the customer and more than likely to prompt good customer loyalty. Definitely a 'one good turn' sort of thing. I'm very impressed.
    Yes it's very common as we in Florida know. 


    Off-topic but: So you're in Florida? I remember asking where you were from because you said you'd never seen an Apple Watch in public but I forgot what thread I asked you in. I figured you were in a very impoverished location.

    Is this still the case? Because Apple Watches are all over America. I saw over 25 yesterday and I wasn't "out on the town" and I was in a lower-class part of town.

    And I still haven't taken note of one, and no it is not an impoverished third-world community either. You still don't get why you see them and I don't? Perhaps you're not as thoughtful as I assumed. 
    You’re implying confirmation bias, but that isn’t the case. Apple Watch is the top-selling watch, period. One needn’t be on the look out to see them. Nay, one must be applying active cognitive dissonance to claim their eyeballs aren’t seeing them at this point. 

    edited October 10 AppleExposed
  • Reply 10 of 20
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 21,289member
    gatorguy said:
    "What a greedy company!!!!!!111123"

    gatorguy said:
    I'm in the UK and I've never heard of anything like this before - and I don't know if this is something that is offered by other providers in the US, but regardless, this seems like a fantastic commitment to the needs and welfare of the customer and more than likely to prompt good customer loyalty. Definitely a 'one good turn' sort of thing. I'm very impressed.
    Yes it's very common as we in Florida know. 


    Off-topic but: So you're in Florida? I remember asking where you were from because you said you'd never seen an Apple Watch in public but I forgot what thread I asked you in. I figured you were in a very impoverished location.

    Is this still the case? Because Apple Watches are all over America. I saw over 25 yesterday and I wasn't "out on the town" and I was in a lower-class part of town.

    And I still haven't taken note of one, and no it is not an impoverished third-world community either. You still don't get why you see them and I don't? Perhaps you're not as thoughtful as I assumed. 
    You’re implying confirmation bias, but that isn’t the case. Apple Watch is the top-selling watch, period. One needn’t be on the look out to see them. Nay, one must be applying active cognitive dissonance to claim their eyeballs aren’t seeing them at this point. 

    You don't get it either. Just as I don't notice rose gardens I have no interest in smartwatches either. To be honest I wouldn't know how to tell the difference between one squarish watch and another anyway, even if I had an interest. 

    The sillier claim from you is that confirmation bias isn't involved in recognizing what you already purchased or want to. Only you would claim that, and for no reason other than winning some argument. You seem to be a relatively smart guy and couldn't possibly honestly believe what you posted IMO.  

    I'm a photographer who doesn't remember seeing Canon cameras either tho I'm sure they're all around me at events. You get it, you just would prefer not to admit it. 
  • Reply 11 of 20
    gatorguy said:
    gatorguy said:
    "What a greedy company!!!!!!111123"

    gatorguy said:
    I'm in the UK and I've never heard of anything like this before - and I don't know if this is something that is offered by other providers in the US, but regardless, this seems like a fantastic commitment to the needs and welfare of the customer and more than likely to prompt good customer loyalty. Definitely a 'one good turn' sort of thing. I'm very impressed.
    Yes it's very common as we in Florida know. 


    Off-topic but: So you're in Florida? I remember asking where you were from because you said you'd never seen an Apple Watch in public but I forgot what thread I asked you in. I figured you were in a very impoverished location.

    Is this still the case? Because Apple Watches are all over America. I saw over 25 yesterday and I wasn't "out on the town" and I was in a lower-class part of town.

    And I still haven't taken note of one, and no it is not an impoverished third-world community either. You still don't get why you see them and I don't? Perhaps you're not as thoughtful as I assumed. 
    You’re implying confirmation bias, but that isn’t the case. Apple Watch is the top-selling watch, period. One needn’t be on the look out to see them. Nay, one must be applying active cognitive dissonance to claim their eyeballs aren’t seeing them at this point. 

    You don't get it either. Just as I don't notice rose gardens I have no interest in smartwatches either. To be honest I wouldn't know how to tell the difference between one squarish watch and another anyway, even if I had an interest. 

    The sillier claim from you is that confirmation bias isn't involved in recognizing what you already purchased or want to. Only you would claim that, and for no reason other than winning some argument. You seem to be a relatively smart guy and couldn't possibly honestly believe what you posted IMO.  

    I'm a photographer who doesn't remember seeing Canon cameras either tho I'm sure they're all around me at events. You get it, you just would prefer not to admit it. 
    Nah, that's all silly nonsense. You're pretending people only notice the Apple Watch because they want to, when in reality the fact is it's the top-selling watch in human history. The fact that we like Apple platforms and you're the google guy dooesn't matter or factor into it at all, at this point, they're everywhere and you see them. It's only by willfully covering your eyes that you can continue to claim not to see them anywhere.

    To say the issue is you care so little about watches that you never look and therefore cannot see them is fine, but then your comment is pointless and of so little value that it's worthless as anecdotal evidence, which is how you framed it when this first came up prior to this recent article. That was back when someone like you could still pretend the AW is anything other than a record-setting smash success and is everywhere. Even in whatever part of Florida it is you reside in.
    edited October 10
  • Reply 12 of 20
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 21,289member
    gatorguy said:
    gatorguy said:
    "What a greedy company!!!!!!111123"

    gatorguy said:
    I'm in the UK and I've never heard of anything like this before - and I don't know if this is something that is offered by other providers in the US, but regardless, this seems like a fantastic commitment to the needs and welfare of the customer and more than likely to prompt good customer loyalty. Definitely a 'one good turn' sort of thing. I'm very impressed.
    Yes it's very common as we in Florida know. 


    Off-topic but: So you're in Florida? I remember asking where you were from because you said you'd never seen an Apple Watch in public but I forgot what thread I asked you in. I figured you were in a very impoverished location.

    Is this still the case? Because Apple Watches are all over America. I saw over 25 yesterday and I wasn't "out on the town" and I was in a lower-class part of town.

    And I still haven't taken note of one, and no it is not an impoverished third-world community either. You still don't get why you see them and I don't? Perhaps you're not as thoughtful as I assumed. 
    You’re implying confirmation bias, but that isn’t the case. Apple Watch is the top-selling watch, period. One needn’t be on the look out to see them. Nay, one must be applying active cognitive dissonance to claim their eyeballs aren’t seeing them at this point. 

    You don't get it either. Just as I don't notice rose gardens I have no interest in smartwatches either. To be honest I wouldn't know how to tell the difference between one squarish watch and another anyway, even if I had an interest. 

    The sillier claim from you is that confirmation bias isn't involved in recognizing what you already purchased or want to. Only you would claim that, and for no reason other than winning some argument. You seem to be a relatively smart guy and couldn't possibly honestly believe what you posted IMO.  

    I'm a photographer who doesn't remember seeing Canon cameras either tho I'm sure they're all around me at events. You get it, you just would prefer not to admit it. 
    Nah, that's all silly nonsense. 
    To say the issue is you care so little about watches that you never look and therefore cannot see them is fine, but then your comment is pointless and of so little value that it's worthless as anecdotal evidence, which is how you framed it when this first came up prior to this recent article. 
    I've NEVER promoted my own experience as "anecdotal evidence". Where did you pluck that from?

    I originally was making an observation and still am.
    Fact: I've never seen an iPhone in the wild and AFAICT it's not due to an active avoidance of seeing one. 
    Fact 2: Confirmation Bias is real.

    So try this challenge: From what I can determine Apple has sold somewhere north of 50-60 million smartwatches. They don't report sales so we're guessing. Let's be generous and say it's 70 million over the past 5 years. 

    Motorola is estimated to have sold at least 70 million Moto G's over the same time period.  How many of those did you see today? 

    Proof of fact 2. 
    You're welcome. 

    edited October 10
  • Reply 13 of 20
    spice-boyspice-boy Posts: 1,026member
    Apple Card is a disaster. 
  • Reply 14 of 20
    spice-boyspice-boy Posts: 1,026member
    Rayz2016 said:
    I'm in the UK and I've never heard of anything like this before

    We don't usually have the infrastructure-destroying disasters they see in other parts of the world.



    what do your call Brexit then? 
  • Reply 15 of 20
    spice-boyspice-boy Posts: 1,026member

    "What a greedy company!!!!!!111123"

    gatorguy said:
    I'm in the UK and I've never heard of anything like this before - and I don't know if this is something that is offered by other providers in the US, but regardless, this seems like a fantastic commitment to the needs and welfare of the customer and more than likely to prompt good customer loyalty. Definitely a 'one good turn' sort of thing. I'm very impressed.
    Yes it's very common as we in Florida know. 


    Off-topic but: So you're in Florida? I remember asking where you were from because you said you'd never seen an Apple Watch in public but I forgot what thread I asked you in. I figured you were in a very impoverished location.

    Is this still the case? Because Apple Watches are all over America. I saw over 25 yesterday and I wasn't "out on the town" and I was in a lower-class part of town.

    Ouch! "lower class part of town". 
  • Reply 16 of 20
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 21,289member
    spice-boy said:

    "What a greedy company!!!!!!111123"

    gatorguy said:
    I'm in the UK and I've never heard of anything like this before - and I don't know if this is something that is offered by other providers in the US, but regardless, this seems like a fantastic commitment to the needs and welfare of the customer and more than likely to prompt good customer loyalty. Definitely a 'one good turn' sort of thing. I'm very impressed.
    Yes it's very common as we in Florida know. 


    Off-topic but: So you're in Florida? I remember asking where you were from because you said you'd never seen an Apple Watch in public but I forgot what thread I asked you in. I figured you were in a very impoverished location.

    Is this still the case? Because Apple Watches are all over America. I saw over 25 yesterday and I wasn't "out on the town" and I was in a lower-class part of town.

    Ouch! "lower class part of town". 
    Here in the US we might say "Apple Exposed was slum'n". :)

    ...lower class part of town... LOL.
  • Reply 17 of 20
    gatorguy said:
    gatorguy said:
    gatorguy said:
    "What a greedy company!!!!!!111123"

    gatorguy said:
    I'm in the UK and I've never heard of anything like this before - and I don't know if this is something that is offered by other providers in the US, but regardless, this seems like a fantastic commitment to the needs and welfare of the customer and more than likely to prompt good customer loyalty. Definitely a 'one good turn' sort of thing. I'm very impressed.
    Yes it's very common as we in Florida know. 


    Off-topic but: So you're in Florida? I remember asking where you were from because you said you'd never seen an Apple Watch in public but I forgot what thread I asked you in. I figured you were in a very impoverished location.

    Is this still the case? Because Apple Watches are all over America. I saw over 25 yesterday and I wasn't "out on the town" and I was in a lower-class part of town.

    And I still haven't taken note of one, and no it is not an impoverished third-world community either. You still don't get why you see them and I don't? Perhaps you're not as thoughtful as I assumed. 
    You’re implying confirmation bias, but that isn’t the case. Apple Watch is the top-selling watch, period. One needn’t be on the look out to see them. Nay, one must be applying active cognitive dissonance to claim their eyeballs aren’t seeing them at this point. 

    You don't get it either. Just as I don't notice rose gardens I have no interest in smartwatches either. To be honest I wouldn't know how to tell the difference between one squarish watch and another anyway, even if I had an interest. 

    The sillier claim from you is that confirmation bias isn't involved in recognizing what you already purchased or want to. Only you would claim that, and for no reason other than winning some argument. You seem to be a relatively smart guy and couldn't possibly honestly believe what you posted IMO.  

    I'm a photographer who doesn't remember seeing Canon cameras either tho I'm sure they're all around me at events. You get it, you just would prefer not to admit it. 
    Nah, that's all silly nonsense. 
    To say the issue is you care so little about watches that you never look and therefore cannot see them is fine, but then your comment is pointless and of so little value that it's worthless as anecdotal evidence, which is how you framed it when this first came up prior to this recent article. 
    I've NEVER promoted my own experience as "anecdotal evidence". Where did you pluck that from?

    I originally was making an observation and still am.
    Fact: I've never seen an iPhone in the wild and AFAICT it's not due to an active avoidance of seeing one. 
    Fact 2: Confirmation Bias is real.

    So try this challenge: From what I can determine Apple has sold somewhere north of 50-60 million smartwatches. They don't report sales so we're guessing. Let's be generous and say it's 70 million over the past 5 years. 

    Motorola is estimated to have sold at least 70 million Moto G's over the same time period.  How many of those did you see today?
    This originally came up a year ago in an AW thread discussing their success, and you threw in that you'd never even seen one. You didn't say "Attention: This is my anecdotal evidence", but that's a given in all these discussions, there's no reason to cite your personal observations if not in the context of the topic being discussed. Otherwise why waste the keystrokes?

    But now you're also saying you've never even seen an iPhone? Yyyeaahh... I'd suggest instead that Yes, you have, you're just using willful ignorance to pretend your eyeballs aren't seeing them. That's simply cognitive dissonance on your part. 

    As for Motorola watches, sorry you're on drugs if you think they've sold as many as Apple Watch. That being said, I do occasionally see a round, clunky smartwatch that I assume is a Motorola. I see more often the angular squarish knockoffs which I believe are Fitbits.

    But to claim I've never even seen a single one? Or that I've never seen an IPHONE?! That's rich. You must be home-bound in a remote retirement cul de sac. 

    AppleExposed
  • Reply 18 of 20
    spice-boy said:
    Apple Card is a disaster. 
    No it isn't. What on earth are you talking about? Some anti-capitalism/consumerism tirade?
    AppleExposed
  • Reply 19 of 20
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 21,289member
    gatorguy said:
    gatorguy said:
    gatorguy said:
    "What a greedy company!!!!!!111123"

    gatorguy said:
    I'm in the UK and I've never heard of anything like this before - and I don't know if this is something that is offered by other providers in the US, but regardless, this seems like a fantastic commitment to the needs and welfare of the customer and more than likely to prompt good customer loyalty. Definitely a 'one good turn' sort of thing. I'm very impressed.
    Yes it's very common as we in Florida know. 


    Off-topic but: So you're in Florida? I remember asking where you were from because you said you'd never seen an Apple Watch in public but I forgot what thread I asked you in. I figured you were in a very impoverished location.

    Is this still the case? Because Apple Watches are all over America. I saw over 25 yesterday and I wasn't "out on the town" and I was in a lower-class part of town.

    And I still haven't taken note of one, and no it is not an impoverished third-world community either. You still don't get why you see them and I don't? Perhaps you're not as thoughtful as I assumed. 
    You’re implying confirmation bias, but that isn’t the case. Apple Watch is the top-selling watch, period. One needn’t be on the look out to see them. Nay, one must be applying active cognitive dissonance to claim their eyeballs aren’t seeing them at this point. 

    You don't get it either. Just as I don't notice rose gardens I have no interest in smartwatches either. To be honest I wouldn't know how to tell the difference between one squarish watch and another anyway, even if I had an interest. 

    The sillier claim from you is that confirmation bias isn't involved in recognizing what you already purchased or want to. Only you would claim that, and for no reason other than winning some argument. You seem to be a relatively smart guy and couldn't possibly honestly believe what you posted IMO.  

    I'm a photographer who doesn't remember seeing Canon cameras either tho I'm sure they're all around me at events. You get it, you just would prefer not to admit it. 
    Nah, that's all silly nonsense. 
    To say the issue is you care so little about watches that you never look and therefore cannot see them is fine, but then your comment is pointless and of so little value that it's worthless as anecdotal evidence, which is how you framed it when this first came up prior to this recent article. 
    I've NEVER promoted my own experience as "anecdotal evidence". Where did you pluck that from?

    I originally was making an observation and still am.
    Fact: I've never seen an iPhone in the wild and AFAICT it's not due to an active avoidance of seeing one. 
    Fact 2: Confirmation Bias is real.

    So try this challenge: From what I can determine Apple has sold somewhere north of 50-60 million smartwatches. They don't report sales so we're guessing. Let's be generous and say it's 70 million over the past 5 years. 

    Motorola is estimated to have sold at least 70 million Moto G's over the same time period.  How many of those did you see today?
    This originally came up a year ago in an AW thread discussing their success, and you threw in that you'd never even seen one. You didn't say "Attention: This is my anecdotal evidence", but that's a given in all these discussions, there's no reason to cite your personal observations if not in the context of the topic being discussed. Otherwise why waste the keystrokes?

    But now you're also saying you've never even seen an iPhone? Yyyeaahh... I'd suggest instead that Yes, you have, you're just using willful ignorance to pretend your eyeballs aren't seeing them. That's simply cognitive dissonance on your part. 

    As for Motorola watches, sorry you're on drugs if you think they've sold as many as Apple Watch. That being said, I do occasionally see a round, clunky smartwatch that I assume is a Motorola. I see more often the angular squarish knockoffs which I believe are Fitbits.

    But to claim I've never even seen a single one? Or that I've never seen an IPHONE?! That's rich. You must be home-bound in a remote retirement cul de sac. 

    LOL... Sorry mistyped. Meant an Apple Watch. I've seen LOTS of iPhones. That's a product I do have some interest in, going so far as to put it in my cart and but ultimately deciding it was too much money to spend just for testing.

    BTW a Moto G is not a watch. More proof of how little you care about not-Apple gear or could be bothered to look to see what they are or what they look like. Why? I already know that answer. is there a glimmer of understanding beginning?

     Yes at last 70 million Moto G's have been sold over the same period, at least as many of them as the Apple Watch. 
    edited October 11
  • Reply 20 of 20
    AppleExposedAppleExposed Posts: 1,687unconfirmed, member
    spice-boy said:

    "What a greedy company!!!!!!111123"

    gatorguy said:
    I'm in the UK and I've never heard of anything like this before - and I don't know if this is something that is offered by other providers in the US, but regardless, this seems like a fantastic commitment to the needs and welfare of the customer and more than likely to prompt good customer loyalty. Definitely a 'one good turn' sort of thing. I'm very impressed.
    Yes it's very common as we in Florida know. 


    Off-topic but: So you're in Florida? I remember asking where you were from because you said you'd never seen an Apple Watch in public but I forgot what thread I asked you in. I figured you were in a very impoverished location.

    Is this still the case? Because Apple Watches are all over America. I saw over 25 yesterday and I wasn't "out on the town" and I was in a lower-class part of town.

    Ouch! "lower class part of town". 

    Eh. Just making a point. Why? Because when you're in the upper class of a U.S. city you literally have to cover your eyes to not see Apple Watches. Go to a damn Whole Foods and you feel like an outsider for NOT wearing a Watch!

    gatorguy said:
    gatorguy said:
    gatorguy said:
    "What a greedy company!!!!!!111123"

    gatorguy said:
    I'm in the UK and I've never heard of anything like this before - and I don't know if this is something that is offered by other providers in the US, but regardless, this seems like a fantastic commitment to the needs and welfare of the customer and more than likely to prompt good customer loyalty. Definitely a 'one good turn' sort of thing. I'm very impressed.
    Yes it's very common as we in Florida know. 


    Off-topic but: So you're in Florida? I remember asking where you were from because you said you'd never seen an Apple Watch in public but I forgot what thread I asked you in. I figured you were in a very impoverished location.

    Is this still the case? Because Apple Watches are all over America. I saw over 25 yesterday and I wasn't "out on the town" and I was in a lower-class part of town.

    And I still haven't taken note of one, and no it is not an impoverished third-world community either. You still don't get why you see them and I don't? Perhaps you're not as thoughtful as I assumed. 
    You’re implying confirmation bias, but that isn’t the case. Apple Watch is the top-selling watch, period. One needn’t be on the look out to see them. Nay, one must be applying active cognitive dissonance to claim their eyeballs aren’t seeing them at this point. 

    You don't get it either. Just as I don't notice rose gardens I have no interest in smartwatches either. To be honest I wouldn't know how to tell the difference between one squarish watch and another anyway, even if I had an interest. 

    The sillier claim from you is that confirmation bias isn't involved in recognizing what you already purchased or want to. Only you would claim that, and for no reason other than winning some argument. You seem to be a relatively smart guy and couldn't possibly honestly believe what you posted IMO.  

    I'm a photographer who doesn't remember seeing Canon cameras either tho I'm sure they're all around me at events. You get it, you just would prefer not to admit it. 
    Nah, that's all silly nonsense. 
    To say the issue is you care so little about watches that you never look and therefore cannot see them is fine, but then your comment is pointless and of so little value that it's worthless as anecdotal evidence, which is how you framed it when this first came up prior to this recent article. 
    I've NEVER promoted my own experience as "anecdotal evidence". Where did you pluck that from?

    I originally was making an observation and still am.
    Fact: I've never seen an iPhone in the wild and AFAICT it's not due to an active avoidance of seeing one. 
    Fact 2: Confirmation Bias is real.

    So try this challenge: From what I can determine Apple has sold somewhere north of 50-60 million smartwatches. They don't report sales so we're guessing. Let's be generous and say it's 70 million over the past 5 years. 

    Motorola is estimated to have sold at least 70 million Moto G's over the same time period.  How many of those did you see today?
    This originally came up a year ago in an AW thread discussing their success, and you threw in that you'd never even seen one. You didn't say "Attention: This is my anecdotal evidence", but that's a given in all these discussions, there's no reason to cite your personal observations if not in the context of the topic being discussed. Otherwise why waste the keystrokes?

    But now you're also saying you've never even seen an iPhone? Yyyeaahh... I'd suggest instead that Yes, you have, you're just using willful ignorance to pretend your eyeballs aren't seeing them. That's simply cognitive dissonance on your part. 

    As for Motorola watches, sorry you're on drugs if you think they've sold as many as Apple Watch. That being said, I do occasionally see a round, clunky smartwatch that I assume is a Motorola. I see more often the angular squarish knockoffs which I believe are Fitbits.

    But to claim I've never even seen a single one? Or that I've never seen an IPHONE?! That's rich. You must be home-bound in a remote retirement cul de sac. 


    You're ABSOLUTELY dead-on with the watches. I see the exact same things:

    1. Analog watches
    2. Apple Watch
    3. Knockoff Apple Watches by Fitnit (sometimes you have to look closer to confirm as they also copied the bands.)
    4. Circle Smartwatches (Which I assume to be Samsung)

    And no I'm not just looking for Apple watches. I notice every damn watch I look at whether I'm paying attention or not. GatorGuy makes it seem like we're paying attention with a notepad and tally marks.

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    "What a greedy company!!!!!!111123"

    gatorguy said:
    I'm in the UK and I've never heard of anything like this before - and I don't know if this is something that is offered by other providers in the US, but regardless, this seems like a fantastic commitment to the needs and welfare of the customer and more than likely to prompt good customer loyalty. Definitely a 'one good turn' sort of thing. I'm very impressed.
    Yes it's very common as we in Florida know. 


    Off-topic but: So you're in Florida? I remember asking where you were from because you said you'd never seen an Apple Watch in public but I forgot what thread I asked you in. I figured you were in a very impoverished location.

    Is this still the case? Because Apple Watches are all over America. I saw over 25 yesterday and I wasn't "out on the town" and I was in a lower-class part of town.

    And I still haven't taken note of one, and no it is not an impoverished third-world community either. You still don't get why you see them and I don't? Perhaps you're not as thoughtful as I assumed. 
    You’re implying confirmation bias, but that isn’t the case. Apple Watch is the top-selling watch, period. One needn’t be on the look out to see them. Nay, one must be applying active cognitive dissonance to claim their eyeballs aren’t seeing them at this point. 

    You don't get it either. Just as I don't notice rose gardens I have no interest in smartwatches either. To be honest I wouldn't know how to tell the difference between one squarish watch and another anyway, even if I had an interest. 

    The sillier claim from you is that confirmation bias isn't involved in recognizing what you already purchased or want to. Only you would claim that, and for no reason other than winning some argument. You seem to be a relatively smart guy and couldn't possibly honestly believe what you posted IMO.  

    I'm a photographer who doesn't remember seeing Canon cameras either tho I'm sure they're all around me at events. You get it, you just would prefer not to admit it. 
    Nah, that's all silly nonsense. 
    To say the issue is you care so little about watches that you never look and therefore cannot see them is fine, but then your comment is pointless and of so little value that it's worthless as anecdotal evidence, which is how you framed it when this first came up prior to this recent article. 
    I've NEVER promoted my own experience as "anecdotal evidence". Where did you pluck that from?

    I originally was making an observation and still am.
    Fact: I've never seen an iPhone in the wild and AFAICT it's not due to an active avoidance of seeing one. 
    Fact 2: Confirmation Bias is real.

    So try this challenge: From what I can determine Apple has sold somewhere north of 50-60 million smartwatches. They don't report sales so we're guessing. Let's be generous and say it's 70 million over the past 5 years. 

    Motorola is estimated to have sold at least 70 million Moto G's over the same time period.  How many of those did you see today?
    This originally came up a year ago in an AW thread discussing their success, and you threw in that you'd never even seen one. You didn't say "Attention: This is my anecdotal evidence", but that's a given in all these discussions, there's no reason to cite your personal observations if not in the context of the topic being discussed. Otherwise why waste the keystrokes?

    But now you're also saying you've never even seen an iPhone? Yyyeaahh... I'd suggest instead that Yes, you have, you're just using willful ignorance to pretend your eyeballs aren't seeing them. That's simply cognitive dissonance on your part. 

    As for Motorola watches, sorry you're on drugs if you think they've sold as many as Apple Watch. That being said, I do occasionally see a round, clunky smartwatch that I assume is a Motorola. I see more often the angular squarish knockoffs which I believe are Fitbits.

    But to claim I've never even seen a single one? Or that I've never seen an IPHONE?! That's rich. You must be home-bound in a remote retirement cul de sac. 

    LOL... Sorry mistyped. Meant an Apple Watch. I've seen LOTS of iPhones. That's a product I do have some interest in, going so far as to put it in my cart and but ultimately deciding it was too much money to spend just for testing.

    BTW a Moto G is not a watch. More proof of how little you care about not-Apple gear or could be bothered to look to see what they are or what they look like. Why? I already know that answer. is there a glimmer of understanding beginning?

     Yes at last 70 million Moto G's have been sold over the same period, at least as many of them as the Apple Watch. 

    WTF? You notice iPhones but not the Watch? It's getting to the point (U.S.A.) where you notice more Watches and AirPods than iPhones because these accessories are always visible where an iPhone can be in a pocket, purse etc. or look like a knockoff and vice versa.

    "BTW a Moto G is not a watch. More proof of how little you care about not-Apple gear "

    No one cares about non-Apple gear. Do you really think iKnockoff users walk into a store saying "I need the new Moto G!" lol. Most just settle for what's on sale and leave. Most of the people I know who use iKnockoffs just got whatever was free or on sale. If Moto Gs are those knockoffs with the camera in the middle and a letter under it( a "G"?) then yes I've seen these.

    There's a problem with your "anecdotal confirmation bias" theory. We HAVE seen popular iKnockoffs in public but you're claiming you've seen ZERO Apple Watches. BIG difference. And I do pay attention to phones in public and for every motorola I see about 5 Apple Watches which anecdotally would say that Apple has sold way way more than 70M Watches but who knows.

    Can you please confirm what country or state/province you live in? Because if you're in Florida your claim is really freaking me out!

    @gatorguy

    @strangedays

    Sorry for late replies. busy week.
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