Apple Mac mini vs Intel NUC -- the lightweights spar

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in Current Mac Hardware edited January 2020
Apple's Mac mini is the ideal Mac for high performance in a slimline package, as well as for those who want to use their own monitor instead of relying on an integrated display. However, the existence of compact rivals like the Intel NUC can offer roughly equivalent processing power in a smaller size for a bit less money.

Mac mini and Intel NUC product boxes
The compact boxes for each hint at the small stature of the pint-sized powerhouses


We've spoken about the Mac mini and how it lines up with Intel's Next Unit of Computing (NUC) before. At the time, the diminutive desktop from Apple hadn't been updated in a long time -- and we're getting back to that point again, with it having been a year and a processor generation since release.

Even with the professional-oriented release from 2018, the Mac mini resides in a section of the market aimed at people who don't need an additional monitor, as a MacBook or iMac includes, due to already owning a display. It also fits into the category of being an entry point into macOS usage, with it being an ideal first Mac for switchers from Windows-based PCs.

We're seeing people buy it who simply don't have enough space for a full-blown mini tower PC, and just need something that occupies very little room but provides vast amounts of processing power. While the tiny Mac mini has certainly proved itself as a capable and compact Mac over the years, it isn't the only computing appliance on the market capable of providing enough processing for users while being minimal in stature.

The Mac mini (left) and the Intel NUC
The Mac mini (left) and the Intel NUC


One good example of this is the Intel NUC range, which consists of a PC built and designed by Intel themselves to directly compete against the Mac mini by offering many of the same qualities, albeit as a Windows system. Offered usually as an upgradable kit, the NUC is similar in that it takes up very little space on the desktop, but at the same time it includes more than enough processing capacity for most computing needs.

To see if the Mac mini still measures up, AppleInsider is comparing it with the Intel NUC 8 Home, model number NUC8i5BEK, provided by Intel for the purposes of this comparison. For the purposes of an even comparison, Core i5-equipped versions of each will be pitched against each other.

2018 Mac mini versus 2019 Intel NUC8i5BEK by the numbers

Apple Mac mini i5Intel NUC
Price$1,099$750
Dimensions (inches)7.7 x 7.7 x 1.44.4 x 4.6 x 2.0
Weight (pounds)2.93.1 with adapter
ProcessorIntel Core i5 6-core 3.0GHzIntel Core i5 quad-core 2.3GHz
Memory8GB, configurable to 64GB8GB, Configurable to 32GB
Storage256GB SSD, configurable to 2TB SSD256GB, user-upgradeable
GraphicsIntel UHD Graphics 630Intel Iris Plus Graphics 655
NetworkingWi-Fi (802.11ac), Gigabit Ethernet (10Gb Ethernet option), Bluetooth 5.0 Wi-Fi (802.11ac), Gigabit Ethernet, Bluetooth 5.0
HDMIHDMI 2.0HDMI 2.0a
USB2x USB 3.1 Gen 24x USB 3.1 Gen 2
Thunderbolt/USB-C4x Thunderbolt 31x Thunderbolt 3
Audio3.5mm headphone jack, Built-in speaker3.5mm headphone jack
Other ItemsMicro SD card slot, IR sensor, Kensington lock slot

Small stature

Measuring 7.7 inches square and 1.4 inches thick, the Mac mini is a short but wide design, which makes it quite stackable with other hardware, or used as a plinth. In a pinch, it could easily be placed on its side and stored wedged between books on a bookshelf.

Adding the power supply to the footprint of the Intel NUC brings it much closer to the Mac mini
Adding the power supply to the footprint of the Intel NUC brings it much closer to the Mac mini


The distinctive flat shape helps make it a design classic, assisted with the neat edges and the rounded corners, making it unmistakably Apple in its appearance.

The Intel NUC itself, however, is smaller measuring a mere 4.4 inches by 4.6 inches, though it does sit taller at 2 inches high for the "tall" variant that can house a 2.5-inch SSD. Despite the height difference, this still means the NUC has not only a smaller footprint on a desk than the Mac mini, but also takes up a smaller volume for the computer itself.

Some of that volume difference is in the power supply. The Apple Mac mini has an internal power supply, and the NUC relies on an external power brick.

Intel NUC connectivity, versus Apple Mac mini

It varies from person to person as to what connections are important for a computer. Depending on their priorities, a user may prefer to have more USB-A ports readily available over other connection types, or Thunderbolt 3 may be more important.

Ports on the back of the Mac mini and Intel NUC
The rear of both the Mac mini and Intel NUC offer many connectivity options


The Apple Mac mini we're looking at here includes a HDMI 2.0 port, two USB 3.1 type A ports, four Thunderbolt 3 ports, Gigabit Ethernet, and a 3.5mm headphone jack. All of the elements are also put on the back of the easily-positioned chassis, so everything is accessible from just one location.

The Intel NUC opts to split its inputs and outputs on opposite sides of the casing, with a few on the front and a few to the rear, on the basis of it being used on a desk and needing some connections to be easily accessible to the user.

Front-facing ports on the Intel NUC
The NUC offers something the Mac mini doesn't: front-facing ports


On the back is the HDMI 2.0a port, Gigabit Ethernet, two USB 3.1 type A ports, and the solitary Thunderbolt 3 port. The front has two USB 3.1 type A ports and the 3.5mm headphone jack.

One thing to the NUC's benefit is the inclusion of a side microSD card slot, which can be used for media ingesting or even to expand storage. While the Mac mini used to have an SD card reader built in, modern versions do not have the slot.

Both models include 802.11ac Wi-Fi and Bluetooth 5.0 support. However, Ethernet on the Mac mini can be upgraded to a 10-Gigabit Ethernet port at the time of purchase for $100, whereas the NUC would have to rely on adding a 10-Gigabit Ethernet adapter via the Thunderbolt 3 port for around $150 if it needs to perform the same feat.

The Power

The Core i5 Apple Mac mini is equipped with an i5-8500B Intel processor, a six-core chip clocked at 3.0GHz with a Turbo Boost of up to 4.1GHz. It ships with 8GB of RAM by default, but can be configured to have 16GB, 32GB, or 64GB of RAM.

The Intel Core i5 in the NUC is only a quad-core chip, specifically the 8259U, with a base clock speed of 2.3GHz boostable to 3.8GHz. Again, the NUC kit we're comparing here starts with 8GB of RAM at its base, but can be upgraded to have up to 32GB of memory.

Results from Geekbench 5 score the Mac mini at 1,034 for the single-core tests, with a multi-core result of 4,807. Our NUC, which Intel provided to AppleInsider for testing delivered results of 1,014 for the single-core tests and 3,701 for multi-core, indicating it's roughly at a par with the pint-sized Apple desktop for single-threaded operations, but lags quite a bit in multi-core applications.

This also extends to the graphics, as since both use onboard graphics solutions instead of a discrete GPU, the Mac mini and the NUC are at the mercy of Intel's graphical choices. Neither the Intel UHD Graphics 630 integrated within the Apple unit nor the Intel Iris Plus Graphics 655 in the NUC will set the world alight with their performance, but they will be more than adequate enough for the majority of non-intensive computing tasks.

Those who want better graphical power could easily enter the world of eGPU enclosures via Thunderbolt 3 on either machine. More on this in a bit.

Video Work

Introduced in 2011, Intel's QuickSync encoding routines are driven by on-die hardware, and is considerably faster and more power-efficient when used rather than just number-crunching by the processor. Encodes using QuickSync to its maximum extent typically takes a fraction of the usual time, and are sometimes faster than transcoding with the assistance of a graphics card.

QuickSync has evolved over the years. The 5,1 Mac Pro and cylindrical 6,1 Mac Pro don't have it at all -- and neither does the iMac Pro because of Intel's architectural choices in the Xeon processor used at the time. But, the Mac mini and NUC we're looking at here both do.

Apple also has the VideoToolbox routines. VideoToolbox is Apple's low-level framework for iOS, macOS, and tvOS that provides software with access to hardware-based encoders and decoders, for the purposes of compression, decompression and transcoding. For developers, it is a way to tap into Apple's hardware directly rather than using their own software-based solution, typically saving time and simplifying the process of adding the functionality to their apps and tools. And, it can use the T2 chip in the Apple Mac machine to boost encoding.

We've discussed what the T2 chip in the Mac mini gets you in regards to encode speed before. Obviously, the T2 isn't in the NUC. But, Intel's own QuickSync routines do some heavy lifting on its own.

Running the same tests we ran before, using HandBrake, and with all the same parameters, the i5 Apple Mac mini delivered the encoded video in 3 minutes and 9 seconds. The NUC processed it in 5 minutes and 41 seconds.

Why should a Mac user buy an Intel NUC?

Even in this era of near-ubiquitous cloud services, there are still good reasons to have a local machine hosting what you want on your LAN. Some ISPs (looking at you, Comcast) have functional caps on bandwidth, where going over either throttles your download speed, or worse, costs more money.

Even if you don't want to use the NUC as a work machine, it still runs iTunes or Plex for media. It can still be used as a local file server. Properly configured, you can get your files, and bandwidth permitting, stream your media stored on it across the Internet.

The NUC's separate power supply does take up extra space, but it can be hidden from view if required
The NUC's separate power supply does take up extra space, but it can be hidden from view if required


If you've embraced an eGPU, that NUC can use it too. That single Thunderbolt 3 port, connected to the eGPU you use on your Mac during the day, can be used to game at night, given the performance and thermals that we've demonstrated here.

And, if you code in any way, using it as an inexpensive and solid Windows development machine apart from your Mac is an outstanding use of the hardware.

We've selected this particular NUC because it is very close to the lower-end Mac mini in price and performance. There is a dizzying array of NUC models available, and most of them come without storage or RAM, allowing you to configure what you want, where you want it.

Higher-end Ghost Canyon NUC with PCI-E expansion

Apple and Intel diverge with this product line. At the 2020 CES, Intel released a NUC with the new "Ghost Canyon" architecture, and more expandability. The NUC9i9QNX is a high-end configuration with not just an i9 processor with "Turbo" speeds up to 5GHz and support for up to 64GB of RAM -- but also a PCI-E slot for a video card.

CES 2020 saw the introduction of a Ghost Canyon NUC
Ghost Canyon NUC enclosure that fits a PCI-E video card


While the NUC9i9QNX bare-bones system isn't cheap at around $1535 without drives, RAM, OS, or a video card, it is an intriguing system for the "prosumer" level of user. Apple has eschewed PCI-E at the prosumer level for a long time, and other than eGPUs for a $300 premium on top of the graphics card itself, or the $5999 Mac Pro, there's no good way to boost the sometimes anemic graphic offerings on Apple's lineup.

This Ghost Canyon architecture is worth keeping an eye on going forward. It will be interesting to see if Apple responds to this market segment after very loud cost discussions surrounding the Mac Pro and release systems like the NUC9i9QNX -- which is very similar to the xMac concept from days of yore.

The Bottom Line

Intel's NUC family comes in a wide array of performances, and an equally wide array of pricing. Intel being Intel, the integrations are pretty good and other than the Apple Mac mini, the Intel NUC is the absolute best small form-factor computer you can buy.

We here at AppleInsider unsurprisingly prefer macOS and iOS to alternatives. But, we know that there are benefits to Microsoft Windows platform as well -- benefits that many of us here at AppleInsider partake in in parallel to our Apple gear. We've said it before, if you need or want Windows hardware and have no particular need for macOS or iOS, you generally buy Windows. If you need or prefer macOS, then that's what you buy.

Folks use Apple gear, macOS, and iOS side by side because of the OS-level integration. Apple controls the entire hardware and software stack, allowing for integrations that are second to none.

But, Windows or macOS, as long as you know what you're getting into when you buy at whatever price-point you settle on, you can get the job done, integrations or no. What tools you use for that job depends on your own toolbox, and what you like to use. We have enjoyed the form and value behind the Apple Mac Mini for 15 years and aren't expecting that to change. This is not our first NUC -- and for good reason.

Where to buy

Intel NUC computers can be purchased as barebones models or as kits with memory and storage already integrated. Prices start at $423.75, with options available at both Amazon and B&H Photo.

Meanwhile, Apple's smallest desktop is currently on sale from $729, with six-core models starting at $1,049 with coupon code APINSIDER at Adorama.

Deals on every configuration, including exclusive coupon discounts, are available 24/7 in the AppleInsider Apple Mac mini Price Guide, so check it out if you're in the market for one of Apple's compact systems.
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  • Reply 1 of 30
    mwhitemwhite Posts: 287member
    One really big thing missing on the NUC, the best OS of all. NO SALE.......
    edited January 2020 rob53StrangeDaysjony0watto_cobraDancingMonkeys
  • Reply 2 of 30
    macguimacgui Posts: 2,360member
    As an owner of a 2108 mini, I would have tried a NUC first, if it ran macOS or Mac OS as easily as a mini. I'm just not one work with a HackinTosh. I just don't have the patience, need, or desire. If I did, I'd give NUC a chance.


    llama
  • Reply 3 of 30
    The issue at heart is that the other machines don't run macOS. The Mac mini likely wouldn't exist if macOS ran on non-apple hardware - I can't really imagine the mac mini having much of an audience for users who aren't using macOS.
    rob53watto_cobra
  • Reply 4 of 30
    Mike WuertheleMike Wuerthele Posts: 6,861administrator
    The issue at heart is that the other machines don't run macOS. The Mac mini likely wouldn't exist if macOS ran on non-apple hardware - I can't really imagine the mac mini having much of an audience for users who aren't using macOS.
    mwhite said:
    One really big thing missing on the NUC, the best OS of all. NO SALE.......
    This is addressed in the article.
  • Reply 5 of 30
    rob53rob53 Posts: 3,251member
    The issue at heart is that the other machines don't run macOS. The Mac mini likely wouldn't exist if macOS ran on non-apple hardware - I can't really imagine the mac mini having much of an audience for users who aren't using macOS.
    mwhite said:
    One really big thing missing on the NUC, the best OS of all. NO SALE.......
    This is addressed in the article.
    Mike, it can be addressed in the article but why even talk about comparing the Mac mini to a non-macos-based mini server? This after all is a website for Apple users.
    mwhitemacpluspluswatto_cobra
  • Reply 6 of 30
    Mike WuertheleMike Wuerthele Posts: 6,861administrator
    rob53 said:
    The issue at heart is that the other machines don't run macOS. The Mac mini likely wouldn't exist if macOS ran on non-apple hardware - I can't really imagine the mac mini having much of an audience for users who aren't using macOS.
    mwhite said:
    One really big thing missing on the NUC, the best OS of all. NO SALE.......
    This is addressed in the article.
    Mike, it can be addressed in the article but why even talk about comparing the Mac mini to a non-macos-based mini server? This after all is a website for Apple users.
    Because we got asked a lot to do this compare piece. As a reminder, while I love (most of) you folks, forum-goers are a very, very small percentage of AI's overall traffic.

    And, in regards to "non-macOS based mini server," I use a different NUC than discussed here to play Destiny 2, with my eGPU that I use on my Mac during the day.
    edited January 2020 fastasleepCloudTalkinwatto_cobra
  • Reply 7 of 30
    mpantonempantone Posts: 2,040member
    Look, people. Different people have different needs.

    I have a nicely appointed Mac mini 2018 connected to an LG 4K UHD HDR monitor. This is my primary computer at home.

    I also have an HD TV and I like to have something like a HTPC attached to it primarily to run Kodi. It already has a Roku and Blu-ray player and can accept input from my iDevices. 

    Guess what? Another Mac mini would be massively expensive overkill. So I bought a $170 Wintel PC instead. Having a Wintel PC in the house is convenient. I own certain devices that are more easily configured using Windows-based utilities than Mac-based utilities. I had to update the firmware on a third-party keyboard the other day: no Mac tool for this. With the arrival of 64-bit-only Catalina, having the Wintel box with legacy software support is even more critical.

    I will bet a buffalo nickel that the Wintel PC will continue printing to my cheapo HP MFP long after Apple drops macOS support for this inkjet device.

    Again, this is only my usage case. There are probably as many usage cases are there are people who own computers. If you have five devices most likely you are not doing exactly the same things (and only those things) on each device.

    The comparison between the Mac mini and the Intel NUC is quite relevant and useful.
    edited January 2020 maltzjony0llama
  • Reply 8 of 30
    wizard69wizard69 Posts: 13,377member
    mwhite said:
    One really big thing missing on the NUC, the best OS of all. NO SALE.......
    You can run Linux on a Nuc!



    hayaha🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
    maltzFileMakerFeller
  • Reply 9 of 30
    sflocalsflocal Posts: 6,096member
    I would totally by these for my windows-only clients.  I’m not a fan of the big, bulky AC adapter, but I expect that from Wintel.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 10 of 30
    sflocalsflocal Posts: 6,096member
    wizard69 said:
    mwhite said:
    One really big thing missing on the NUC, the best OS of all. NO SALE.......
    You can run Linux on a Nuc!



    hayaha🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
    I run Linux as a VM on MacOS as well.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 11 of 30
    As an iMac 27 user who currently is shopping Core i7 Mac Minis as a replacement, while also needed to quickly replace a aged 17” Sony laptop with some other Windows PC solution for my wife, I can add some use case perspective. 

    1. The 10th Generation Intel processor is now available in the NUC as of last week at Newegg. $629 and needs and supports faster storage and memory as well as a copy of Windows.  Load one with 32 Gb of RAM and a 1Tb of NVME M.2 SSD storage for under $1000 and the comparable Mac Mini is $2200+ and using the older processor. 
    2. The Mac Mini is a choice for iMac users who can’t update to the latest MacOS, and if an i7 is to be a choice for shoppers who want to future proof there is quite a price difference when looking at iMacs.
    3. Thunderbolt 3 is hard/(expensive) to buy or build in the Windows desktop world. I find the i7 NUC to be much cheaper than building my own PC desktop solution. 
    4. The use case to bring work home and use dual monitors is here for me. Locking up new computer dollars in an iMac or even a stationary laptop’s screen seems to make less sense if I can get better ones now or sooner than the next greatest glass. 
    dewme
  • Reply 12 of 30
    wizard69wizard69 Posts: 13,377member
    rob53 said:
    The issue at heart is that the other machines don't run macOS. The Mac mini likely wouldn't exist if macOS ran on non-apple hardware - I can't really imagine the mac mini having much of an audience for users who aren't using macOS.
    mwhite said:
    One really big thing missing on the NUC, the best OS of all. NO SALE.......
    This is addressed in the article.
    Mike, it can be addressed in the article but why even talk about comparing the Mac mini to a non-macos-based mini server? This after all is a website for Apple users.
    Because we got asked a lot to do this compare piece. As a reminder, while I love (most of) you folks, forum-goers are a very, very small percentage of AI's overall traffic.

    And, in regards to "non-macOS based mini server," I use a different NUC than discussed here to play Destiny 2, with my eGPU that I use on my Mac during the day.
    Im actually very happy with this article, even if I’m not looking for a current Nuc.   However Ghost Canyon in many ways is that XMac that many of us wanted and frankly could use.   I don’t see Ghost Canyon as a gaming machine but rather a desktop machine with reasonable GPU performance for those that need more than the SoC solutions offer.    My biggest problem with Intel’s products right now is the poor value they represent compared to AMD hardware.      Frankly I don’t care if the GPU is soldered in but many do, either way an XMac could easily be a Mini+ that is a few mm taller.  

    This is where the current Mini falls short, no discreet GPU option and its poor value per dollar.    I’m not sure what happened at Apple with respect to the Mini but they seemed to have really messed up the Mini as a value leader for people wanting to run a MacOS supporting computer.    Frankly it has lost all appeal as a low end home server, media server or other dedicated use machine.    The Nuc as you point out can be had in those low end configurations that work well for a media streamer / server and the like.  Of course the Mini works fine if you have money to blow on it, but excessive costs for no reason rubs many people the wrong way.  

    By the way there is one other thing that the current Mini does that is a frustration.   That is the built in power supply.  External supplies are great as substitution for mobile use is so easy.   Need a computer in your RV to run off battery or solar is no problem at all. Even if mobile isn’t an issue repair is a snap.    The internal power supply in the recent Minis just highlights another possible differentiator that can make a difference when considering the Nuc.  

    The Mini is getting long in the tooth again and frankly I fear that Apple will ignore it instead of trying to address some of the issues it has.    In the hopes that Apple actually cares here is what I’d like to see in the update:

    1.    Models supporting AMDs new APU chips for base and midrange
    2.    A high end model with a GPU that is a discreet device.  
    3.    All of the above in 16 GB or 32 GB options.  
    4.    All of the above with the SSD sitting in an industry standard M.2 slot that supports any SSD that implements M.2.    This is a huge issue because I seldom have RAM issues but secondary storage has always caused me issues.  In fact issues with the last Apple MBP I bought had me switching over to a PC based laptop running Linux.  The SSD subsystem failure should not mean a trip back to the manufacture.  
    5.    Ports!   An SD port is still a wonderful thing!   More importantly ports on the front of the box are very important and should be at least on USB port and that SD port.   An analog in for audio wouldn’t hurt on the front either.  The front ports are just required from the usability standpoint. 
    6.   Revert to an external power supply with a standard voltage in.   By that I mean a DC input that takes 12 or 24 VDC to leverage widely available solution.  

    Knowing Apple we will likely get zero of the above but it doesn’t hurt to suggest.    I’d suggest an ARM based solution but that is a huge step where as most of the stuff on the above list are dead simple.  
    llama
  • Reply 13 of 30
    wizard69wizard69 Posts: 13,377member
    mpantone said:
    Look, people. Different people have different needs.

    I have a nicely appointed Mac mini 2018 connected to an LG 4K UHD HDR monitor. This is my primary computer at home.

    I also have an HD TV and I like to have something like a HTPC attached to it primarily to run Kodi. It already has a Roku and Blu-ray player and can accept input from my iDevices. 

    Guess what? Another Mac mini would be massively expensive overkill. So I bought a $170 Wintel PC instead. Having a Wintel PC in the house is convenient. I own certain devices that are more easily configured using Windows-based utilities than Mac-based utilities. I had to update the firmware on a third-party keyboard the other day: no Mac tool for this. With the arrival of 64-bit-only Catalina, having the Wintel box with legacy software support is even more critical.

    I will bet a buffalo nickel that the Wintel PC will continue printing to my cheapo HP MFP long after Apple drops macOS support for this inkjet device.

    Again, this is only my usage case. There are probably as many usage cases are there are people who own computers. If you have five devices most likely you are not doing exactly the same things (and only those things) on each device.

    The comparison between the Mac mini and the Intel NUC is quite relevant and useful.
    Very useful!    There is actually a massive range of Small Form Factor PCs out there that many people seem to dismiss.  This doesn’t even get into the Single Board Computer domain where things like Raspberry PI offer a lot of capability per dollar.   

    Sometimes the way to look at this is that different problems have different solutions often multiple different solutions. 
  • Reply 14 of 30
    auxioauxio Posts: 2,728member
    wizard69 said:
    mwhite said:
    One really big thing missing on the NUC, the best OS of all. NO SALE.......
    You can run Linux on a Nuc!
    I personally went the other direction (from Linux to Mac) once I had a family and my spare time became more valuable than money.  I still tinker with Linux from time to time, but I'm very happy with my Mac Mini NAS/server and how little maintenance it requires compared to Linux (especially across major OS updates).
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 15 of 30
    NUC running Ubuntu would be a very solid solution.  When I had drive issues on a previous MacBook (pre-iPad days), I had Ubuntu running off a thumb drive on the Mac while I sorted out the drive replacement.  Heck, there are days when I live off the Raspberry Pi that I periodically forget is screwed to the back of my TV...

    I'm still Mac every day because of network / mdm duties and the iOS macOS integrated ecosystem.  
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 16 of 30
    zimmiezimmie Posts: 651member
    Most NUC names include the processor generation and family. The "NUC815BEK" is actually NUC8i5BEK. NUC, eighth-generation, i5 processor. Simple typo.

    I point this out because it is also perhaps worth noting all of the NUC6i# and and up support 64 GB of RAM. As this is an 8i5, it definitely works with 64 GB, not just 32.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 17 of 30
    Mike WuertheleMike Wuerthele Posts: 6,861administrator
    zimmie said:
    Most NUC names include the processor generation and family. The "NUC815BEK" is actually NUC8i5BEK. NUC, eighth-generation, i5 processor. Simple typo.

    I point this out because it is also perhaps worth noting all of the NUC6i# and and up support 64 GB of RAM. As this is an 8i5, it definitely works with 64 GB, not just 32.
    The documentation that Intel has provided says 32GB. I will inquire.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 18 of 30
    zimmiezimmie Posts: 651member
    zimmie said:
    Most NUC names include the processor generation and family. The "NUC815BEK" is actually NUC8i5BEK. NUC, eighth-generation, i5 processor. Simple typo.

    I point this out because it is also perhaps worth noting all of the NUC6i# and and up support 64 GB of RAM. As this is an 8i5, it definitely works with 64 GB, not just 32.
    The documentation that Intel has provided says 32GB. I will inquire.
    I guess that gets into what exactly "supports" means in a tech context. The processor definitely works with 64 GB. I have a NUC6i3 (6100U) with 64 GB of RAM in it even though ARK says the processor only does 32.

    Intel may decline to help you if you have 64 GB of RAM until you have reproduced the problem with only 32 GB of RAM. This is really more relevant for manufacturers building systems from Intel processors.

    Thus, I would say the processor supports 64 GB, but Intel-the-business may not. Just like the max RAM in the 2013 Mac Pro.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 19 of 30
    thttht Posts: 5,450member
    How is it even possible for the Intel NUC+power supply to weigh more than the Mac mini? Did you open up the NUC to see the interior design?

    Barring a great iMac redesign, an updated Mac mini will likely be my next desktop.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 20 of 30
    I just wish the Mac Mini had a discrete GPU and not Intel's weak integrated graphics.  I'm not sure how Apple could manage that as the Mac Mini only has room for one exhaust fan and a discrete GPU would generate more heat to get rid of.  I only use my Mac Mini as a PLEX media center computer and as long as the current Mac Mini can manage 4K at 60fps with the HDMI port, maybe a discrete GPU doesn't really matter to me.  I'm holding off buying a new Mac Mini until next year to see if Apple upgrades the CPU with more powerful integrated graphics.  I'm not ever expecting a discrete GPU in the Mac Mini based on the way it is mainly being used.  Eventually, I'll be getting a NAS with video transcoding capabilities, so that will end all my complaints about the Mac Mini.  As it is the Mac Mini is a fine little computer that has run 24/7/365 for me for a few years.
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