Irish Apple HQ employee contracts coronavirus

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in General Discussion edited March 2020
A worker at Apple's European headquarters in Cork, Ireland has reportedly been tested positive for the coronavirus, a medical situation that has prompted the iPhone maker to perform a deep clean of the offices and to warn employees to self-isolate.




An employee who worked out of the Cork offices was tested in early March for the virus, promptly after feeling unwell and departing the building. In a statement to the media and in an internal memo, Apple has confirmed the staff member was infected with covid-19.

Apple told employees in an email it was working "closely" with the Health Service Executive of Ireland, reports the Irish Examiner. While the HSE believed the risk to other employees was low, Apple has still informed some who worked "in the immediate working environment" of the person to self-isolate and "not come into the office for an initial 48-hour period."

It was also advised Apple will be "continuing our deep cleaning protocols of all office areas." New developments with the HSE will be "acted on immediately," with offices continuing to remain open as normal.

In a statement to the press, Apple confirmed an employee was infected with the coronavirus, insisted it was working with local health authorities over the situation, and that some employees are in self-isolation.

The report of an employee being infected surfaces shortly after the revelation Apple has enhanced its sickness policy to allow retail workers to take time off with unlimited sick pay if they suffer from symptoms indicative of the coronavirus. Apple has also restricted travel to some countries affected by the virus outbreak, and encouraged office employees to work from home.

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  • Reply 1 of 14
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member
    So what happens if upper management at Apple contracts this and dies? In fact, all companies with older upper management needs to be asking this since the over 50 or 60 generation are potentially at risk.
  • Reply 2 of 14
    georgie01georgie01 Posts: 436member
    We really need to have some perspective...

    We should be careful and mindful with the coronavirus, but putting out a news story about one employee in Ireland getting it is a symptom of being panicky and obsessed with it. That mindset has caused more problems for the general public (such as financial hits) than the coronavirus itself. The flu kills far more people every year than the coronavirus likely will (given the careful approach we’ve been taking), yet when was the last news story about some random employee at Apple getting the flu? 
  • Reply 3 of 14
    Mike WuertheleMike Wuerthele Posts: 6,861administrator
    georgie01 said:
    We really need to have some perspective...

    We should be careful and mindful with the coronavirus, but putting out a news story about one employee in Ireland getting it is a symptom of being panicky and obsessed with it. That mindset has caused more problems for the general public (such as financial hits) than the coronavirus itself. The flu kills far more people every year than the coronavirus likely will (given the careful approach we’ve been taking), yet when was the last news story about some random employee at Apple getting the flu? 
    I'm tired of this flu whataboutism.

    Yes, people get the flu. Yes, people die from the flu. The overall coronavirus mortality rate is an order of magnitude higher than that of the flu. The mortality rate in the over 60 crowd is two orders of magnitude higher. And, this is on top of an already busy flu season, and not in replacement of it - and these are conservative numbers.

    And what careful approach? The Chinese acted, literally, six weeks too late. The only reason the infection rates in the US are so low, is because tests aren't being performed in the volumes they need to be.
    edited March 2020 DancingMonkeysmichelb76muthuk_vanalingam
  • Reply 4 of 14
    jbaughjbaugh Posts: 28member
    georgie01 said:
    We really need to have some perspective...

    We should be careful and mindful with the coronavirus, but putting out a news story about one employee in Ireland getting it is a symptom of being panicky and obsessed with it. That mindset has caused more problems for the general public (such as financial hits) than the coronavirus itself. The flu kills far more people every year than the coronavirus likely will (given the careful approach we’ve been taking), yet when was the last news story about some random employee at Apple getting the flu? 

    The only reason the infection rates in the US are so low, is because tests aren't being performed in the volumes they need to be.
    So I take it you are an official at CDC to have access to this information. Or at the very least you are a physician with extensive knowledge and experience in epidemiology and disease containment strategies. Thanks for sharing with us. 
    SpamSandwich
  • Reply 5 of 14
    Mike WuertheleMike Wuerthele Posts: 6,861administrator
    jbaugh said:
    georgie01 said:
    We really need to have some perspective...

    We should be careful and mindful with the coronavirus, but putting out a news story about one employee in Ireland getting it is a symptom of being panicky and obsessed with it. That mindset has caused more problems for the general public (such as financial hits) than the coronavirus itself. The flu kills far more people every year than the coronavirus likely will (given the careful approach we’ve been taking), yet when was the last news story about some random employee at Apple getting the flu? 

    The only reason the infection rates in the US are so low, is because tests aren't being performed in the volumes they need to be.
    So I take it you are an official at CDC to have access to this information. Or at the very least you are a physician with extensive knowledge and experience in epidemiology and disease containment strategies. Thanks for sharing with us. 
    I am neither, but I do have a phone, and a vast list of contacts. Based on your comment history, you don't seem to be either, so thanks for sharing.
    edited March 2020 mknelsonbestkeptsecretmuthuk_vanalingam
  • Reply 6 of 14
    mknelsonmknelson Posts: 1,125member
    georgie01 said:
    We really need to have some perspective...

    We should be careful and mindful with the coronavirus, but putting out a news story about one employee in Ireland getting it is a symptom of being panicky and obsessed with it. That mindset has caused more problems for the general public (such as financial hits) than the coronavirus itself. The flu kills far more people every year than the coronavirus likely will (given the careful approach we’ve been taking), yet when was the last news story about some random employee at Apple getting the flu? 
    That's because the flu is in general circulation and has a much larger population of infected people. That's why it has killed a larger number of people despite having a lower fatality rate.

    The whole point of the quarantines is to try to contain COVID-19 so it doesn't become an annual event circulating in the population at large.
  • Reply 7 of 14
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member
    mknelson said:
    georgie01 said:
    We really need to have some perspective...

    We should be careful and mindful with the coronavirus, but putting out a news story about one employee in Ireland getting it is a symptom of being panicky and obsessed with it. That mindset has caused more problems for the general public (such as financial hits) than the coronavirus itself. The flu kills far more people every year than the coronavirus likely will (given the careful approach we’ve been taking), yet when was the last news story about some random employee at Apple getting the flu? 
    That's because the flu is in general circulation and has a much larger population of infected people. That's why it has killed a larger number of people despite having a lower fatality rate.

    The whole point of the quarantines is to try to contain COVID-19 so it doesn't become an annual event circulating in the population at large.
    In all likelihood, by next year there will be a vaccine for this added to the flu vaccine and it will be a recurring virus.
  • Reply 8 of 14
    yojimbo007yojimbo007 Posts: 1,165member
    How many have the Flu ?
  • Reply 9 of 14
    asdasdasdasd Posts: 5,686member
    georgie01 said:
    We really need to have some perspective...

    We should be careful and mindful with the coronavirus, but putting out a news story about one employee in Ireland getting it is a symptom of being panicky and obsessed with it. That mindset has caused more problems for the general public (such as financial hits) than the coronavirus itself. The flu kills far more people every year than the coronavirus likely will (given the careful approach we’ve been taking), yet when was the last news story about some random employee at Apple getting the flu? 
    That’s it totally misunderstand this virus. Look at Italy. 

    It might be stopped but it needs draconian measures. 
  • Reply 10 of 14
    asdasdasdasd Posts: 5,686member
    georgie01 said:
    We really need to have some perspective...

    We should be careful and mindful with the coronavirus, but putting out a news story about one employee in Ireland getting it is a symptom of being panicky and obsessed with it. That mindset has caused more problems for the general public (such as financial hits) than the coronavirus itself. The flu kills far more people every year than the coronavirus likely will (given the careful approach we’ve been taking), yet when was the last news story about some random employee at Apple getting the flu? 
    I'm tired of this flu whataboutism.

    Yes, people get the flu. Yes, people die from the flu. The overall coronavirus mortality rate is an order of magnitude higher than that of the flu. The mortality rate in the over 60 crowd is two orders of magnitude higher. And, this is on top of an already busy flu season, and not in replacement of it - and these are conservative numbers.

    And what careful approach? The Chinese acted, literally, six weeks too late. The only reason the infection rates in the US are so low, is because tests aren't being performed in the volumes they need to be.
    And it’s on an exponential upward curve anyway. 700 cases today up from 1 in late Jan. a doubling every few days. 
  • Reply 11 of 14
    asdasdasdasd Posts: 5,686member
    jbaugh said:
    georgie01 said:
    We really need to have some perspective...

    We should be careful and mindful with the coronavirus, but putting out a news story about one employee in Ireland getting it is a symptom of being panicky and obsessed with it. That mindset has caused more problems for the general public (such as financial hits) than the coronavirus itself. The flu kills far more people every year than the coronavirus likely will (given the careful approach we’ve been taking), yet when was the last news story about some random employee at Apple getting the flu? 

    The only reason the infection rates in the US are so low, is because tests aren't being performed in the volumes they need to be.
    So I take it you are an official at CDC to have access to this information. Or at the very least you are a physician with extensive knowledge and experience in epidemiology and disease containment strategies. Thanks for sharing with us. 
    He doesn’t have to be, he’s repeating what the CDC and epidemiologists have said. 

    This virus is extremely worrying. It needs Chinese or Italian measures to curtail it.  If the latter even work 
    muthuk_vanalingam
  • Reply 12 of 14
    k2kwk2kw Posts: 2,075member
    Has Apple issued Face Masks for their employees?  Does FaceID work with/through masks?   As the CoronaVirus spreads and then people start wearing masks this could put a damper on sales.   Lets see the SE2 or IPhone9.
  • Reply 13 of 14
    avon b7avon b7 Posts: 7,667member
    Some numbers were made available. Mike's comment is an accurate representation of reality.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-testing-covid-19-tests-per-capita-chart-us-behind-2020-3?IR=T

    As of today, I believe the total number of tests carried out in the U.S is 5,000 (as per the CDC).

    That really isn't a high enough number to get a good idea of the level of incidence and it doesn't contribute much to the data on the rate of the spread of the virus either.

    Know what we know about infection rates from other countries, it is very reasonable to conclude that the U.S will see a spike in infections as its capacity to test for the virus improves.
    edited March 2020 muthuk_vanalingam
  • Reply 14 of 14
    carnegiecarnegie Posts: 1,078member
    georgie01 said:
    We really need to have some perspective...

    We should be careful and mindful with the coronavirus, but putting out a news story about one employee in Ireland getting it is a symptom of being panicky and obsessed with it. That mindset has caused more problems for the general public (such as financial hits) than the coronavirus itself. The flu kills far more people every year than the coronavirus likely will (given the careful approach we’ve been taking), yet when was the last news story about some random employee at Apple getting the flu? 
    I'm tired of this flu whataboutism.

    Yes, people get the flu. Yes, people die from the flu. The overall coronavirus mortality rate is an order of magnitude higher than that of the flu. The mortality rate in the over 60 crowd is two orders of magnitude higher. And, this is on top of an already busy flu season, and not in replacement of it - and these are conservative numbers.

    And what careful approach? The Chinese acted, literally, six weeks too late. The only reason the infection rates in the US are so low, is because tests aren't being performed in the volumes they need to be.
    And it’s not just the potentially higher mortality rate that makes COVID-19 more concerning than the typical seasonal flu. It’s the lack of acquired immunity, either from previous infections or vaccines. Without the moderating effect of widespread acquired immunity (and perhaps seasonality), SARS-CoV-2 has the potential to spread to the majority of the human population. The various strains of influenza viruses typically don’t have that potential.

    Put simply, the typical seasonal flu is (especially with the help of flu shots) effectively self-limiting while COVID-19 is not. That’s part of why drastic measures are being taken to try to limit - or at least slow - its spread. We are trying to do through changes in behavior what would, in the case of the typical seasonal flu, be done by acquired immunity and seasonality.
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