14-inch Apple Silicon MacBook Pro coming at 'Time Flies' Apple event, says leaker

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in General Discussion edited September 2020
A leaker claiming to be the primary source of most of the 2020 Apple leaks is saying that Apple has a lot in store for the September "Time Flies" event, including a 14-inch Apple Silicon MacBook Pro, and, controversially, the possible announcement of the "iPhone 12" family.

Possible 14-inch MacBook Pro with Apple Silicon announcement soon
Possible 14-inch MacBook Pro with Apple Silicon announcement soon


As with any person claiming to know all the secrets online, this information should be taken skeptically. The Reddit account in question is seven months old with no posts posting history until the "Ask Me Anything" thread. The leaker provided "proof" of their position to r/Apple moderators, some of which AppleInsider has seen, but there is no way to verify the provenance of the information.

14-inch MacBook Pro

There were many questions about the upcoming Macs with Apple Silicon and when they would launch. All answers provided by the leaker point to a "14-inch MacBook Pro" being announced at the September 15 event with detailed descriptions of the chipset.

The internal GPU in the unit are said to be comparable to the Radeon Pro 5500M. Overall performance metrics in the upcoming 14-inch will be in line with the current 16-inch MacBook Pro. It is expected that the gaming experience will be exceptional, but only for games optimized for Apple Silicon.

The leaker says that the 12-inch MacBook and "24-inch iMac" with Apple Silicon are due at any time, and could even appear at the event, but they have no details on the release.

"iPhone 12"

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The "iPhone 12 Pro Max" with LiDAR and ProMotion


According to most publications, the September 15 event announced on Tuesday is likely for the "Apple Watch Series 6" and the "iPad Air 4." The leaker says that the event is actually for the "iPhone 12" announcement and related products. This claim contradicts almost all other prominent leakers and reports.

The announcement will include dates for pre-order in October and a mid-October shipping date. The "iPhone 12 Max" and "iPhone 12 Pro" will ship first, as the new design for the smaller "iPhone 12" and the ProMotion Display in the "iPhone 12 Pro Max" complicate the supply chain.

The "iPhone 12 Pro Max" is the only device with ProMotion since it is the only one with enough battery life to sacrifice for the feature. Placing ProMotion into the "iPhone 12 Pro" reduced battery life below the required threshold by Apple for inclusion in the device.

The event will have a big focus on AR since both the "iPhone 12 Pro" and "iPhone 12 Pro Max" will have LiDAR. The focus on AR will bring Apple's augmented reality devices into focus, but they will likely not be announced yet.

"Apple Glass"


"Apple Glass" could launch in March 2021


The leaker claims to be the source of all leaked "Apple Glass" information so far. They claim that the name is a placeholder and could be the final name, however internally they are referred to as "the glasses."

Apple could announce the "Apple Glass" early, but the launch will not occur until March 2021. The first-generation will not have its own developer kit since the device will not require much input from developers. Interactions will be limited, if any, since all data is coming from the iPhone.

The information is projected onto the lens, and appears as AR objects and will not act as an overlay of the real world. The device itself will look like normal, but bulky, glasses. Apple will focus on privacy as a primary feature, so don't expect facial recognition and the like.

The AR/VR headset projected for 2022 release is still being tested. There is no information about its capabilities or how it compares to the "Apple Glass."

"Apple TV 6"

The "Apple TV 6" is not coming in 2020 and will have a focus on gaming. The device will be pushed with a big focus on Apple TV+ content and Apple Arcade titles.

Apple will have a push into gaming in 2021 that will "revolutionize" the gaming market.

Other Leaks

  • No new Apple displays in the works, only the Pro Display XDR available for now.
  • Project Titan is an upgrade to CarPlay as an OS with dev kits for car makers. No Apple Car.
  • Folding iPhone is coming, though it will be a dual display device, not a folding screen device.
  • "AirPods Studio" will not come until 2021, but not entirely sure of that.
  • Expect AirPower at the September 15 event
  • iPad Mini redesign will have smaller bezels, but retain the home button.
  • No new HomePod variants coming in 2020.
  • Cheap Apple Watch is "not happening."
  • Don't expect AirTags until the "Apple Glass" launch in March 2021.
  • iPad Pro will not be updated again in 2020.
Jon Prosser says that the leaker is "not legit" in a tweet about this article.

The information provided in the Reddit AMA should be taken very skeptically. There are a lot of details about the September 15 event in this thread, so they will be proven reliable, or not, soon.
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  • Reply 1 of 57
    indiekidukindiekiduk Posts: 381member
    An ARM Mac released before the OS it runs is released? Sounds plausible
    blastdoorwatto_cobrachasm
  • Reply 2 of 57
    aderutteraderutter Posts: 604member
    The AS Mac could be announced/detailed with a shipping date in December.
    i don’t see a MBP coming yet though fwiw
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 3 of 57
    iOS_Guy80iOS_Guy80 Posts: 813member
    WWe don’t know what we don’t know till September 15th.
    ronnwatto_cobra
  • Reply 4 of 57
    Mike WuertheleMike Wuerthele Posts: 6,861administrator
    indiekiduk said:
    An ARM Mac released before the OS it runs is released? Sounds plausible
    While the language in the post should make it clear that we are very skeptical about the data, an event doesn't mean shipments same-day. A case in point is the iPhone, which will start pre-orders a few days after the event also before the iOS that supports it is available, with shipments between seven and 10 days later.
    ronnwatto_cobrarazorpit
  • Reply 5 of 57
    WarrenBuffduckhWarrenBuffduckh Posts: 158member
    I am so intrinsically relieved that there is no shortage of leakers.  For every story a another one can be found. 
    randominternetperson
  • Reply 6 of 57
    tjwolftjwolf Posts: 424member
    indiekiduk said:
    An ARM Mac released before the OS it runs is released? Sounds plausible
    Conversely, why would Apple release an OS if there's no hardware to run it on?
    MacProwatto_cobraMplsP
  • Reply 7 of 57
    wood1208wood1208 Posts: 2,913member
    Time doesn't fly fast enough for me to get my hands on Apple Silicon based Macbook (want 14" Apple Silicon Macbook Air).
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 8 of 57
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member
    Sounds like a disinfo leak.
    watto_cobrarazorpit
  • Reply 9 of 57
    indiekidukindiekiduk Posts: 381member
    Mike Wuerthele said:
    indiekiduk said:
    An ARM Mac released before the OS it runs is released? Sounds plausible
    While the language in the post should make it clear that we are very skeptical about the data, an event doesn't mean shipments same-day. A case in point is the iPhone, which will start pre-orders a few days after the event also before the iOS that supports it is available, with shipments between seven and 10 days later.
    iOS GM is usually the day after the event which for iOS 14 will be Sept 16th. macOS usually doesn't release til October.
    ronnwatto_cobra
  • Reply 10 of 57
    headfull0wineheadfull0wine Posts: 111member
    The vast majority of the planet doesn’t really pay attention to this stuff.  Financial analysts dive deep enough to get trading insight. We, on the other hand, are champing at the bit.  We feed the leakers  

    My 2012 27” iMac is done with updates. No Big Sur love for it. I would love a 24” AS iMac. Soon...
    watto_cobrapatchythepirate
  • Reply 11 of 57
    harry wildharry wild Posts: 809member
    iPhone 12 announcement is the new rumor now!  Who would of thought to announce the iPhone 12s in the month of September?  Amazing, huh? :)
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 12 of 57
    ITGUYINSDITGUYINSD Posts: 515member
    tjwolf said:
    An ARM Mac released before the OS it runs is released? Sounds plausible
    Conversely, why would Apple release an OS if there's no hardware to run it on?
    No one said any new Apple Silicon device would be released and in stores next Tuesday.  

    It's very much like Apple to talk about it and then say "Available December 2020".  

    As a matter of fact, many of the rumored devices can be spoken of at the event, but not released until next year!
    edited September 2020
  • Reply 13 of 57
    DuhSesameDuhSesame Posts: 1,278member
    "The price will stay the same, but they’ll make a point of just how much more you get for the price. Apple are responsible for most of the confusion this year. They changed how they crack down on leakers this year. There’s private security firms involved in the actual crackdown, but there’s also a division solely for distributing conflicting info. As for my info, I can’t really make any promises, but like Jon Prosser’s ‘sources’ I won’t budge on what I believe to becoming As for working with them, it’s pretty much what you’d expect. Really fun atmosphere and depending on your clearance, you can really get to see what makes the company tick and play around with tech that probably won’t ever even be released"
    He's not 100% confident either.  I'm curious which 16-inch model they'll be matching?  6-Core? 8-Core? 9980HK?  The actual performance or what the 16" on the Geekbench 5?  If the 14" is aimed at the base model, that doesn't sound quite as impressive unless it's using a quad-core.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 14 of 57
    themacprothemacpro Posts: 1member
    Apple glass... lol they'd never play second fiddle to Google so blatantly 

    If i had to guess?

    "iSight"
    watto_cobraspheric
  • Reply 15 of 57
    headfull0wineheadfull0wine Posts: 111member
    iGlass maybe?
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 16 of 57
    wizard69wizard69 Posts: 13,377member
    indiekiduk said:
    An ARM Mac released before the OS it runs is released? Sounds plausible
    Why not.   if the hardware is to be released in October that gives them a month to finalize Mac OS.   Historically we are in about the right time frame for development to come to an end and candidate releases to hit developers.

    I'm not saying I put much faith into these rumors just that the development process at Apple should be wrapping up about now.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 17 of 57
    wizard69wizard69 Posts: 13,377member
    indiekiduk said:
    Mike Wuerthele said:
    indiekiduk said:
    An ARM Mac released before the OS it runs is released? Sounds plausible
    While the language in the post should make it clear that we are very skeptical about the data, an event doesn't mean shipments same-day. A case in point is the iPhone, which will start pre-orders a few days after the event also before the iOS that supports it is available, with shipments between seven and 10 days later.
    iOS GM is usually the day after the event which for iOS 14 will be Sept 16th. macOS usually doesn't release til October.
    exactly which is why the time frame is about right for plausibility.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 18 of 57
    wizard69wizard69 Posts: 13,377member
    headfull0wine said:
    iGlass maybe?
    How about Apple Super Symmetric - Glass
    watto_cobraspheric
  • Reply 19 of 57
    Mike WuertheleMike Wuerthele Posts: 6,861administrator
    indiekiduk said:
    Mike Wuerthele said:
    indiekiduk said:
    An ARM Mac released before the OS it runs is released? Sounds plausible
    While the language in the post should make it clear that we are very skeptical about the data, an event doesn't mean shipments same-day. A case in point is the iPhone, which will start pre-orders a few days after the event also before the iOS that supports it is available, with shipments between seven and 10 days later.
    iOS GM is usually the day after the event which for iOS 14 will be Sept 16th. macOS usually doesn't release til October.
    The larger point is, hardware announcements aren't tied to OS availability. Shipments are.
    thtronnwatto_cobrarazorpitMplsP
  • Reply 20 of 57
    fastasleepfastasleep Posts: 6,417member
    • Project Titan is an upgrade to CarPlay as an OS with dev kits for car makers. No Apple Car.

    No way. Maybe some aspects of the project could lend themselves to a more integrated CarPlay (HUD tech or other non simple secondary display stuff, etc) but there is far too much actual hardware work being done and patented on this project to conclude an actual vehicle isn’t the end target. I can’t see them making an “OS” for someone else’s hardware. 
    watto_cobra
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