Apple working on re-engineered and smaller Mac Pro

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  • Reply 41 of 45
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,873member
    dewme said:
    elijahg said:
    Perhaps this is the long fabled xMac that has been desired for so long by many prosumers in the Mac world!
    Would be interesting to say the least. Even something that is about as functional as an iMac but with a certain amount of end-user accessibility, end-user upgradability, and modularity would be awesome. No, it doesn't have to be equal in performance or expandability to the Mac Pro, it just has to be less sealed-up than the Mini and the iMac.

    I really like my iMacs, but every one has required servicing and every service issue requires a trip to the Apple Store, the loss of the computer for several days, and they always come back with smudges and bubbles under the bezel where the poor technicians had to pry the darn thing apart. And as others have said, it always seems like a waste to have to recycle an iMac that still has a beautiful screen on it even if its computing internals are scrambled. 
    I agree 100%. A Mac with the power of the top-end iMacs for prosumers who are capable of DIY upgrades would be very welcome. I just swapped out the onboard NVMe on one of my PCs from a 256GB to a 1TB NVMe with alacrity and I look at my iMac 5K i9 stuck with its 512 GB internal drive (drives? I read there could be a RAID in there but I am not sure). Yes, I know it can be done but there is no way I am cracking open a new iMac!
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  • Reply 42 of 45
    MacPro said:
    dewme said:
    elijahg said:
    Perhaps this is the long fabled xMac that has been desired for so long by many prosumers in the Mac world!
    Would be interesting to say the least. Even something that is about as functional as an iMac but with a certain amount of end-user accessibility, end-user upgradability, and modularity would be awesome. No, it doesn't have to be equal in performance or expandability to the Mac Pro, it just has to be less sealed-up than the Mini and the iMac.

    I really like my iMacs, but every one has required servicing and every service issue requires a trip to the Apple Store, the loss of the computer for several days, and they always come back with smudges and bubbles under the bezel where the poor technicians had to pry the darn thing apart. And as others have said, it always seems like a waste to have to recycle an iMac that still has a beautiful screen on it even if its computing internals are scrambled. 
    I agree 100%. A Mac with the power of the top-end iMacs for prosumers who are capable of DIY upgrades would be very welcome. I just swapped out the onboard NVMe on one of my PCs from a 256GB to a 1TB NVMe with alacrity and I look at my iMac 5K i9 stuck with its 512 GB internal drive (drives? I read there could be a RAID in there but I am not sure). Yes, I know it can be done but there is no way I am cracking open a new iMac!
    Mac Pro is an easy machine to upgrade. There’s no excuse for the iMac to be designed so hostile to user upgrades. The entire product needs to be reengineered for upgradability.
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  • Reply 43 of 45
    mike1 said:
    Strange. The size is not the problem. The price is. 

    Really?! Didn't seem to be for the actual professionals who need the capability.
    Yes, really. At our architectural office we can’t afford a Mac Pro with 6k displays for everyone. Actually for no one, I would say. 
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  • Reply 44 of 45
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,873member
    MacPro said:
    dewme said:
    elijahg said:
    Perhaps this is the long fabled xMac that has been desired for so long by many prosumers in the Mac world!
    Would be interesting to say the least. Even something that is about as functional as an iMac but with a certain amount of end-user accessibility, end-user upgradability, and modularity would be awesome. No, it doesn't have to be equal in performance or expandability to the Mac Pro, it just has to be less sealed-up than the Mini and the iMac.

    I really like my iMacs, but every one has required servicing and every service issue requires a trip to the Apple Store, the loss of the computer for several days, and they always come back with smudges and bubbles under the bezel where the poor technicians had to pry the darn thing apart. And as others have said, it always seems like a waste to have to recycle an iMac that still has a beautiful screen on it even if its computing internals are scrambled. 
    I agree 100%. A Mac with the power of the top-end iMacs for prosumers who are capable of DIY upgrades would be very welcome. I just swapped out the onboard NVMe on one of my PCs from a 256GB to a 1TB NVMe with alacrity and I look at my iMac 5K i9 stuck with its 512 GB internal drive (drives? I read there could be a RAID in there but I am not sure). Yes, I know it can be done but there is no way I am cracking open a new iMac!
    Mac Pro is an easy machine to upgrade. There’s no excuse for the iMac to be designed so hostile to user upgrades. The entire product needs to be reengineered for upgradability.
    Yes, exactly, hence I was discussing the possibility of a smaller lower-cost MacPro as the article was about, being a nice additional option if it occurs.  Perhaps you didn't understand what I meant.  I was not saying the iMac should change, simply that I'd buy such a new smaller Mac Pro in a heartbeat instead of another iMac.
    edited November 2020
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  • Reply 45 of 45
    What I want is a mid-tower mac with a desktop grade processor and a decent video card.

    16GB RAM in slots, Core i7 or maybe even i9, some RX 6000 series GPU, NVME slot, and a price tag around $2,000

    I don't want a Xeon with 64 cores, I just want a mid to high end consumer mac that can actually hold a candle to the PCs in that price range.

    Your wish is not a professional machine. What we should have gotten was a Threadripper/EPYC pairing option with 512GB to 2 TB RAM option to put in their custom TB3 made MPX GPU modules that can leverage the latest Zen 3 architecture/RDNA 2.0 and phase out RDNA 1.0/Polaris.

    You don't spend four years designing this flag ship pro line and shit can it in 18 months. They jumped the shark with ARM and should have announced a full transition starting Next Fall.

    Apple did not4 see AMD achieving success this rapidly nor merging with Xilinx. The capacity now at AMD is 16k Engineers, up from 11k. And they are world leaders in HPC platforms, DSPs, Cloud Computing, Machine Learning, AI, etc.

    Apple could have easily targeted ARM with PCIe 6.0 based and DDR5 based memory systems for 2022. Then again Nvidia is now in a long legal entanglement for ARM. This out to be fun.
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