No Radeon 9700 or nVidia NV30 until 2003?

nagrommenagromme
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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
I don't know if I can bring myself to buy a new Power Mac until some next generation GPU comes out to go with it. Some rumors have expected that the ATI Radeon 9700 and/or the nVidia NV3x (GeForce 5?) will be an option when new Power Macs appear (this month we hope).



I don't know which of those boards will come out on top, but it seems clear to me that NEITHER will be out any time soon. Right from the mouth of each company:



Radeon 9700 delayed:

<a href="http://www.insidemacgames.com/features/view.php?ID=151"; target="_blank">http://www.insidemacgames.com/features/view.php?ID=151</a>;



NV30 delayed:

<a href="http://www.tomshardware.com/business/02q3/020802/siggraph-03.html"; target="_blank">http://www.tomshardware.com/business/02q3/020802/siggraph-03.html</a>;



I'd love some reason to hope for one of these sooner. Any thoughts? Any speculation which will come out on top when they DO both appear?

Comments

  • Reply 1 of 10
    arisaris Posts: 65member
    the earliest estimate for the NV30 (GF5) is 6months from now. so dont expect to have this in this years G4 line.



    the ATI 9700 on the other hand is supposed to be on store shelves later this month. so this is a very real possibility for the G4.



    Apple can always add the option for a different video card when it comes available. they dont have to wait for a totally new G4 hardware bump to add the option for a new video card.
  • Reply 2 of 10
    jmoneyjmoney Posts: 133member
    I'd be more concerned with the cpu than the vid card. Friggin Intel is smoking around 2.4 ghz.. Mr. Jobs needs to bag the whole mhz myth BS and break out the dual 2ghz G4.
  • Reply 3 of 10
    xypexype Posts: 672member
    [quote]Originally posted by nagromme:

    <strong>but it seems clear to me that NEITHER will be out any time soon.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    So I guess these Hercules Radeon 9700 pictures are fake?







    <a href="http://www.rivastation.com/news/news_de.htm#1028212852"; target="_blank">Hercules 9700 pics</a>
  • Reply 4 of 10
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    Why does that Hercules card have molex connectors?
  • Reply 5 of 10
    telomartelomar Posts: 1,804member
    [quote]Originally posted by xype:

    <strong>



    So I guess these Hercules Radeon 9700 pictures are fake?



    <a href="http://www.rivastation.com/news/news_de.htm#1028212852"; target="_blank">Hercules 9700 pics</a></strong><hr></blockquote>

    They aren't saying the PC version won't be out in a month they are just saying the Mac version may be delayed somewhat.



    I'm still inclined to believe late August/early autumn isn't out of the question though.



    Edit: NV30 isn't going to realistically arrive until late this year at the earliest and certainly 2003 is considerably more likely.



    [ 08-03-2002: Message edited by: Telomar ]</p>
  • Reply 6 of 10
    johnsonwaxjohnsonwax Posts: 462member
    [quote]Originally posted by Eugene:

    <strong>Why does that Hercules card have molex connectors?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Power for your additional fans, blinky lights, etc. Case modders are always cramming more useless crap in there, and most of them use molex connectors.
  • Reply 7 of 10
    nagrommenagromme Posts: 2,834member
    [quote]Originally posted by xype:

    <strong>

    So I guess these Hercules Radeon 9700 pictures are fake?



    <a href="http://www.rivastation.com/news/news_de.htm#1028212852"; target="_blank">Hercules 9700 pics</a></strong><hr></blockquote>



    I assume that either that's an unreleased product, or not for Mac. Never heard of Hercules. But that link I gave goes to ATI actually speaking about the 9700's timetable.
  • Reply 8 of 10
    xypexype Posts: 672member
    [quote]Originally posted by nagromme:

    <strong>I assume that either that's an unreleased product, or not for Mac. Never heard of Hercules. But that link I gave goes to ATI actually speaking about the 9700's timetable.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    A Mac version is more or less Mac drivers and I doubt ATI didn't co-develop the card on Mac and PC. If you never heard of Hercules - well it's a hardware company in Europe. Pretty much everyone interested in video/sound cards I know knows of it.
  • Reply 9 of 10
    eskimoeskimo Posts: 474member
    [quote]Originally posted by Eugene:

    <strong>Why does that Hercules card have molex connectors?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Because the Radeon 9700 uses more power than an AGP slot can provide thus it needs additional power directly from the power supply. Matrox and Nvidia's new cards will likely use similar connectors.
  • Reply 10 of 10
    programmerprogrammer Posts: 3,483member
    [quote]<strong>

    Because the Radeon 9700 uses more power than an AGP slot can provide thus it needs additional power directly from the power supply. Matrox and Nvidia's new cards will likely use similar connectors.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I'm hoping that the next PowerMacs have AGP Pro 8x slots ... they are supposed to supply greater power levels, avoiding the ugliness of these external power connectors.
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