1167 MHz 7455s should be available soon...

eugeneeugene
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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
<a href="http://e-www.motorola.com/collateral/PCN7637.htm"; target="_blank">http://e-www.motorola.com/collateral/PCN7637.htm</a>;



For all the doom/gloom types...This says nothing about the assumption that Motorola will release new non-7455 CPUs soon. This just means that Motorola is having luck taking the .18µ 7455s to 1167. What that means for .13µ, I don't know...Things could get interesting...
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  • Reply 1 of 61
    disgruntledqs733ownerdisgruntledqs733owner Posts: 63member
    If you're going to bring a thread over from the Ars, why not bring the whole story?
  • Reply 2 of 61
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    Why should I? Man, imagine if CNN had to give a nod to MSNBC for every story MSNBC got first. And are you sure it was first seen at Ars anyway?



    Don't be a turd. If people want to read Ars posts, they can go to Ars. If people want to talk about the URL above, they can talk about it here. If people want to read BadAndy spew, they can go to Ars...or one line quips like "pathetic" and "w3rd," they can go to Ars too...



    [ 08-06-2002: Message edited by: Eugene ]</p>
  • Reply 3 of 61
    msleemslee Posts: 143member
    hi
  • Reply 4 of 61
    cindercinder Posts: 381member
    w3rd





    but seriously

    the 0.13 stuff is in Texas now - their main plant . . .



    soo . . . we've got some G4++s comin our way at at least 1.2+ Ghz!



    . . . right?
  • Reply 5 of 61
    qaziiqazii Posts: 305member
    Doesn't this mean 166Mhz bus?

    133*8.5=1133

    133*9=1200

    166*7=1167
  • Reply 6 of 61
    tigerwoods99tigerwoods99 Posts: 2,633member
    Big whoop.
  • Reply 7 of 61
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    It possibly means 166 MHz (x2?) bus speeds. It means there's something new for the Austin plant to do as Cinder alluded to. It means I'm pretty excited.
  • Reply 8 of 61
    johnsonwaxjohnsonwax Posts: 462member
    [quote]Originally posted by Eugene:

    <strong>Why should I? Man, imagine if CNN had to give a nod to MSNBC for every story MSNBC got first.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Yeah, because you did so much goddamn legwork to track this story down. Please. Nobody is sending you royalties for this.



    And if you're going to bring something from Ars over, at the *very* least bring over the BadAndy content with it. And if you bring something over to Ars, bring Programmer and moki info with it.



    Without these, it appears that you just want people to blather on aimlessly, so you're probably best off dropping this on Spymac instead.



    For those interested, follow from <a href="http://arstechnica.infopop.net/OpenTopic/page?a=tpc&s=50009562&f=8300945231&m=3380925925&r= 9800945925#9800945925" target="_blank">here.</a>
  • Reply 9 of 61
    junkyard dawgjunkyard dawg Posts: 2,801member
    1.167 GHz G4s!!!! OMFG, the piss is running down my leg. Gotta go get these jeans off quick!
  • Reply 10 of 61
    aquaticaquatic Posts: 5,602member
    Eugene, going Future Hardware on us? :eek: What's next, Jonathan with rumors of a new PDA? <img src="graemlins/surprised.gif" border="0" alt="[Surprised]" />



    Nice of you to post this info here Eugene or I wouldn't have noticed it. I am excited by this. It means progress/ With FireWire 2 I'd buy.
  • Reply 11 of 61
    bigcbigc Posts: 1,224member
    [quote]Originally posted by johnsonwax:

    <strong>



    .......

    Without these, it appears that you just want people to blather on aimlessly, so you're probably best off dropping this on Spymac instead.

    ......

    </strong><hr></blockquote>





    Like that wouldn't happen anyway.....
  • Reply 12 of 61
    apple.otakuapple.otaku Posts: 590member
    [quote]Originally posted by Junkyard Dawg:



    <strong>1.167 GHz G4s!!!! OMFG, the piss is running down my leg. Gotta go get these jeans off quick!</strong><hr></blockquote>



    If the 1.167 7455 chips are no longer being manufactured in the Austin facility then what is being manufactured there currently? 7460? 7470? 7500?
  • Reply 13 of 61
    johnsonwaxjohnsonwax Posts: 462member
    [quote]Originally posted by Bigc:

    <strong>Like that wouldn't happen anyway.....</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Well, it might have avoided the following ructations:



    "soo . . . we've got some G4++s comin our way at at least 1.2+ Ghz!"



    "I am excited by this. It means progress/ With FireWire 2 I'd buy."



    Faster than 1GHz parts have apparently been available from Mot for some time. The deduction of a 166MHz bus is worthwhile, but then that was mentioned by BadAndy as well. .13 parts at Austin doesn't necessarily mean G4s. It could mean 8500 parts designed for other markets.



    It doesn't really mean progress. It doesn't necessarily foretell significant improvement in G4s for Apple. At best it opens the door to a 166 bus.



    We all wait for Programmer or moki to restore order to whatever nutty directions I and everyone else has taken a given thread. It seems silly to start a thread that could be reasonably well anchored provided you don't ignore the decent comments by BadAndy.
  • Reply 14 of 61
    myahmacmyahmac Posts: 222member
    out of curiosity what s a PPC561MZP56R2. everyone kinda knows what a PPC7450RX733QER2 should be.
  • Reply 15 of 61
    xypexype Posts: 672member
    If I remember correctly someone on Ars pointed out that those 1.167 parts were available from Motorola when they first offered the 7455s...
  • Reply 16 of 61
    myahmacmyahmac Posts: 222member
    you are right some one did and we talked about it over here cuz then we tried to find the site where moto said that there were 1.1's this was back when the dual 1ghz's were released and pulled like a week later right?
  • Reply 17 of 61
    xypexype Posts: 672member
    [quote]Originally posted by myahmac:

    <strong>this was back when the dual 1ghz's were released and pulled like a week later right?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Not sure, could as well be Motorola having yield problems again.
  • Reply 18 of 61
    powerdocpowerdoc Posts: 8,123member
    It's seems also that the LC model of the 1 ghz 7455 is avalaible : we could see him in the Tibook soon. :cool:
  • Reply 19 of 61
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    johnsonwax, you've got to realize BadAndy isn't wuite an insider and often what he says is wrong. Until I corrected him, he thought the PowerBooks uses 744x variant G4 chips. What's the point of bringing over his conjecture when the only real fact is the URL posted above? What's the point of spoonfeeding people stuff from a rumor-mill. I hardly post anything in Future Hardware because I try to stay grounded. Lots of things BadAndy posts about seem almost designed to throw people off or talk about tangents. They're so tedious.



    I post concrete evidence, not the chain of rumors that follow. I'll leave the AI crowd to do that.



    Royalties? Why do I have to pay dues to Ars? They do nothing but slander the AI community most of the time. Frig, Mac Achaia exists because a handful of Battlefronteers like me begged and begged with Caesar in the Suggestions forum and in private e-mail for it. I already paid my dues.



    [ 08-06-2002: Message edited by: Eugene ]</p>
  • Reply 20 of 61
    henriokhenriok Posts: 537member
    As pointed out on Ars, the part number of the interessting parts are XC7455ARX1167PC, XC7455ARX1167PCR and XPC7455RX1100PC. The Prefix XC and XPC indicated that this is pre production chips.



    But.. can this pre production be due to the fact that this list lists the parts that are moved to the new location in KL, Malaysia and must therefor pass through some pre production test cycle to determine the quality of the new location?



    There is a PPC7455RX1067PB though which supposedly is in production at 1067 MHz. That part won't utilize the 166 MHz FSB so it's not much to write home about.
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