Realistic Predictions (august 2002 until mwsf 2003)
How about some realistic predictions of future hardware to come out of Cupertino from now until mwsf 2003?
By realistic I mean no outlandish predictions like 6 ghz g5's, martian technology, etc.
Heres mine:
August 2002:(not sure of exact date of introduction)
PowerMacs - 933, 1, 1.2 ghz g4's / 266 or 333 mhz DDR-RAM / Bigger hds, more ram, same prices, MacOS X 10.2
Monitors - NEW 17" Widescreen LCD Display w/ new PowerMac look (replaces old 17"), NEW 19" Widescreen LCD Display w/ new PowerMac look, EOL the 15" LCD Display
Mouse - with no real wow factor to the new Powermacs Apple will need something to make them seem like cool, new technology. New multi-buttoned mouse (for shake, FCP, DVDSP, etc).
September 2002 (MacWorld Paris?)
Powerbooks - 800, 933, 1 ghz g4's / 133 mhz SD-RAM / Bigger hds, more ram, same prices / MacOS X 10.2 / Bluetooth built in? / Airport 2?
ibooks - 800, 900 mhz g3's / 100 mhz SD-RAM / Bigger hds, more ram, same prices / MacOS X 10.2 /
/ Bluetooth built in? / Airport 2?
Airport 2 - 50 Mbps, 802.11g, longer distnance
eMacs - now have superdrive option.
November 2002 (Special Event)
New Digital Hub Device (Christmas product)
- camera?
- pda?
- phone?
- something entirely different?
What do you think?
By realistic I mean no outlandish predictions like 6 ghz g5's, martian technology, etc.
Heres mine:
August 2002:(not sure of exact date of introduction)
PowerMacs - 933, 1, 1.2 ghz g4's / 266 or 333 mhz DDR-RAM / Bigger hds, more ram, same prices, MacOS X 10.2
Monitors - NEW 17" Widescreen LCD Display w/ new PowerMac look (replaces old 17"), NEW 19" Widescreen LCD Display w/ new PowerMac look, EOL the 15" LCD Display
Mouse - with no real wow factor to the new Powermacs Apple will need something to make them seem like cool, new technology. New multi-buttoned mouse (for shake, FCP, DVDSP, etc).
September 2002 (MacWorld Paris?)
Powerbooks - 800, 933, 1 ghz g4's / 133 mhz SD-RAM / Bigger hds, more ram, same prices / MacOS X 10.2 / Bluetooth built in? / Airport 2?
ibooks - 800, 900 mhz g3's / 100 mhz SD-RAM / Bigger hds, more ram, same prices / MacOS X 10.2 /
/ Bluetooth built in? / Airport 2?
Airport 2 - 50 Mbps, 802.11g, longer distnance
eMacs - now have superdrive option.
November 2002 (Special Event)
New Digital Hub Device (Christmas product)
- camera?
- pda?
- phone?
- something entirely different?
What do you think?
Comments
Jan 03 - Next Generation processor (Apple, IBM, Motorola, ???) in PMs
MWNY 03 - 64-bit all the way.
(Is it me, or did I just make a statement that negates the very need for these forums).
Some expect Salvation through a new chip/motherboard. Most are permanently dour on everything Motorola and therefore expect spittle-in-the-ocean speed bumps. The more keen few are asking the question on what the nature of the next generation will be (as opposed to just MORE -- more pipelines, more MHz, MORE!!!).
[Addendum] A bigger picture debate should include the possibility that Apple is splitting the PowerMac line into two to include a workstation line. Now is that realistic or outlandish? I personally would like to see and the purchase of the high end apps certainly supports it.
And Moki playing all coy about x86 development and a new PowerPC and just plain exhausting!! [/rant]
Screed
[ 08-07-2002: Message edited by: sCreeD ]</p>
<strong>If Apple does not give the iMac and eMac a speed boost before the Christmass buying season, then they will loose out on a lot of sales. They both need a speed boost for to have a good chance at the Switch campaign, which is marketing to consumers.</strong><hr></blockquote>
This is a more Apple'ish idea. Don't give them a speed boost too close to X-Mas, and just give them a real nice price drop (and blame it on the economy) to clear out the channels to make way for a new year with new products.
That';s what I'd do.
<strong>How about some realistic predictions of future hardware to come out of Cupertino from now until mwsf 2003?
By realistic I mean no outlandish predictions like 6 ghz g5's, martian technology, etc.
Heres mine:
August 2002:(not sure of exact date of introduction)
PowerMacs - 933, 1, 1.2 ghz g4's / 266 or 333 mhz DDR-RAM / Bigger hds, more ram, same prices, MacOS X 10.2
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I still have faith in a much better processor.
It just feels different this time...
933MHz, 1.0GHz. 133MHz FSB(not ddr), 266MHz DDR sdram
1.1GHz dual, 166MHz FSB(not ddr), 333MHz DDR sdram
no HiP7 process used, the stealth upgrades continue.
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This is a more Apple'ish idea. Don't give them a speed boost too close to X-Mas, and just give them a real nice price drop (and blame it on the economy) to clear out the channels to make way for a new year with new products.
That';s what I'd do.</strong><hr></blockquote>
1. Apple is getting away from the past on product roll outs.
2. Small price drops will only help so much, and the drop in price would be the same as their "clearance" prices.
3. This would get little or no press to go along with thier "Switch" ad campaign.
Apple has been recieving pretty good press, but they need to be much more agressive if they are going to achieve Steve's goal of doubling Market share. The time to do this would be at or near the release of 10.2. This would help them sell computers in the back to schoold and christmass buying seasons. Also the Christmass season is a little way off, so they would have to keep the current line iin production, then ramp up a new product when people are not spending as much.
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The time to do this would be at or near the release of 10.2. This would help them sell computers in the back to schoold and christmass buying seasons. Also the Christmass season is a little way off, so they would have to keep the current line iin production, then ramp up a new product when people are not spending as much.</strong><hr></blockquote>
It's way too late to hit this year's back-to-school buying season. most schools do purchases for the following fall in spring/early summer, as most have a fiscal year that ends june/jule. thats why when apple switched their education sales model in the spring a few years back it KILLED purchases. bad time for a shake up. also, most schools wouldn't want to implement brand new OS at the beginning of the year, at least not on a large scale.
as for predictions, god am i hoping for 1 GHz, 1.2 duals, and 1.4 duals with a better bus to the processor. gimme that and a new case design, and i would be one happy fella!
<strong>August
933MHz, 1.0GHz. 133MHz FSB(not ddr), 266MHz DDR sdram
1.1GHz dual, 166MHz FSB(not ddr), 333MHz DDR sdram
no HiP7 process used, the stealth upgrades continue.
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you dont have to specify (not ddr). if you say it will have 333mhz ddr we all know the bus speed is half that, 166mhz. hence the meaning of DDR (DOUBLE data rate)
you just sorta threw me off with that.. didnt know what you were talkin bout for a second.. wanted to clear it up
~January 2003: Apple licence produces 7455 for the PowerMacs at IBM's new foundry for a year.
~January 2004: Apple starts using a IBM 64-bit PowerPC designed for desktops, based on the a Power4 with VMX/Velocity Engine.
Barto
[ 08-08-2002: Message edited by: Barto ]</p>
Udated PowerBooks before the Christmas buying season, w/ a Superdrive option, mode HD.
iBook.....Faster G3s more HD.
iMac ..... more price drops, 133Mhz bus (PLEASE!!!), hopefully slot loading drives cause the damn screen gets in the way of the tray.
eMac.... hopefully it just rolls over and dies.
iPod...back to 2 models...10GB(iPod w/ current look) and 20GB(PowerPod w/ brushed metal look). both come w/ carrying case and remote headphones.
[ 08-11-2002: Message edited by: Hawkeye_a ]</p>
<strong>Tomorrow... tomorrow... I love ya... tommorrow...</strong><hr></blockquote>
I'm hoping something new is released tomorrow too but it seems a little too quiet to me. I would have expected more leaks by now.
What Apple needs is at least 10% cheaper Macs !
What Apple needs is to release them very soon (tomorrow or the 27th) !!
Aw
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Reader Notes iBook Just Received from Apple Store included 10.2 CDs - (from a reader email today)
"Hello, I just wanted to email you to let you know I encountered something rather interesting. My brother received his new iBook today from Apple, and upon opening it there it was a packet with a giant Furred X on it. Mac OS X 10.2, the upgrade CDs. The machine itself was running 10.1.4, apparently Apple is throwing in the upgrade CDs with new machines.
Jaguar consists of 2 upgrade CDs, one is apparently the system, the other
the new Applications.
It's fast...super fast.
Cheers,
Christopher Joy"
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Hope that settles it... Apple *is* shipping machines with Jag. and people are already getting them.
Dave
August: max 1,5G G4 with 166 Mhz bus > performance increase 25-40%.
November: Dmax 2,0G G4 with 166Mhz > performance increase 25%
Spring 2003:new MOBO with new "G5" and hypertransport performance increase 25-50%
<strong>Tomorrow... tomorrow... I love ya... tommorrow...</strong><hr></blockquote>It's bad if it happens tomorrow. That means a simple press release and therefore crummy specs.
I still hope...