What I REALLY want from Panther...

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in macOS edited January 2014
...is a way to manage all my different location settings in one place!

Didn't some old OS used to do that, oh yes OS 9!



I want to be able to manage:



Energy Saver

Network Location

Airport

Bluetooth

Default Printer

Screen Effects

Desktop

Anti-aliasing

Firewall



From one convenient menu with Location sets. This is a biggie for me as I am a PowerBook user who wears many hats in the course of a working day.



Anyone else agree?

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  • Reply 1 of 17
    dfilerdfiler Posts: 3,420member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by robster

    Anyone else agree?



    I bet there are a thousand apple employees wishing the same thing. Many of them carry a laptop while walking around the apple campus...



    Well... on second thought... there have been reports of employees chained to their desks and not allowed to go home. Maybe they won't notice a need for some such 'Location Manager'.

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  • Reply 2 of 17
    kickahakickaha Posts: 8,760member
    Heck, I'd be thrilled if there were some way to pre-/ap- pend actions to a Location change.



    I have a funky DNS setup at home, so that the internal machines see one set of IPs for the various machines, but the external world only sees the server, period. But, you can enter in the same FQDN for the server and have it work inside or outside.



    In theory.



    What I've found is that the nslookup cache does *NOT* get flushed between Location changes, so if I'm at work (external) and access the home server, then go home and change to that Location, all attempts to access the home server internally try and use the external IP... which of course is bogus.



    Since flushing all DNS for every Location change doesn't make a lot of sense for 99.99% of the population, I can see why they don't do this, but it aggravates me... if I could just have a pre- and post- hook to run a script, and then change the Location, I'd be thrilled.
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  • Reply 3 of 17
    robsterrobster Posts: 256member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Kickaha

    if I could just have a pre- and post- hook to run a script, and then change the Location, I'd be thrilled.



    Yeah! good suggestion!

    OK, Apple add to the list the ability to run Apple- and/or Shell Scripts before and after location changes.



    I'd also like to be presented with a choice of location on startup, like OS 8/9 used to be able to do.



    While I'm asking for boot items....



    Couldn't the software on the hardware test CD live in ROM and have an Open Firmware key combo to run it on startup? it could produce a report that gets dropped onto the desktop as a text file when you've booted.

    It'd make admin a whole lot easier.
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  • Reply 4 of 17
    nijiniji Posts: 288member
    hi, although it doesnt help us, there is something interesting on new sony machines.

    sony has an app on its new vaios that it calls "smart network". this allows you to set up network "preferences" for multiple networks, and, as you move among these different networks, the computer will detect the new location, and switch accordingly.

    so, if you have a wi-fi network at home with y network name and z password, and, you have an office network v name and x password, it will automatically configure yr internet connection, based on yr pre-set preferences, as it stumbles across networks that you have told it are legitmate.

    we can not do that with current apps.

    airport has "join network with strongest signal", and, "join last joined network" etc. but solutions like these but still requre you to manually switch.

    regarding apple script, i asked this same question on apple's discusson forum site, but no one really had clue.

    so, can you make some sort of apple script or something that would do for you what sony's "smart network" does, even if those networks are password protected?



    thnx
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  • Reply 5 of 17
    Quote:

    Originally posted by niji

    hi, although it doesnt help us, there is something interesting on new sony machines.

    sony has an app on its new vaios that it calls "smart network". this allows you to set up network "preferences" for multiple networks, and, as you move among these different networks, the computer will detect the new location, and switch accordingly.

    so, if you have a wi-fi network at home with y network name and z password, and, you have an office network v name and x password, it will automatically configure yr internet connection, based on yr pre-set preferences, as it stumbles across networks that you have told it are legitmate.

    we can not do that with current apps.

    airport has "join network with strongest signal", and, "join last joined network" etc. but solutions like these but still requre you to manually switch.

    regarding apple script, i asked this same question on apple's discusson forum site, but no one really had clue.

    so, can you make some sort of apple script or something that would do for you what sony's "smart network" does, even if those networks are password protected?



    thnx




    All you have to do is go up to the Apple menu and drag to change your location....just make each airport network a different location. For example I have:



    Home Location: DSL (PPPoE), dialup, airport (no basestation yet but soon)

    School: School LAN (ethernet), airport (school wireless), dialup



    You're just lazy (and yes I am kidding)
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  • Reply 6 of 17
    What I would like to see is a variation of the "Hibernation" mode that is Win XP in Panther. I really like that option and I always wanted X to have it. ANd yes, I did ask for it in feedback.
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  • Reply 7 of 17
    kecksykecksy Posts: 1,002member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Mac OS X Addict

    What I would like to see is a variation of the "Hibernation" mode that is Win XP in Panther. I really like that option and I always wanted X to have it. ANd yes, I did ask for it in feedback.



    It's Hibernation the same as sleep on the Mac? I know Macs power off more than PCs when they're asleep. It think hibernation is M$ just playing catch up.
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  • Reply 8 of 17
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Kecksy

    It's Hibernation the same as sleep on the Mac? I know Macs power off more than PCs when they're asleep. It think hibernation is M$ just playing catch up.



    Hibernation saves the state of the OS that the time you shut it down. That way you do not load the OS fresh, but it is just a saved state of it when you restart. Kind of like waht Virtual PC has the save all and shutdown option. I don't think that the Mac has that option, unless I am missing something?
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  • Reply 9 of 17
    kecksykecksy Posts: 1,002member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Mac OS X Addict

    Hibernation saves the state of the OS that the time you shut it down. That way you do not load the OS fresh, but it is just a saved state of it when you restart. Kind of like waht Virtual PC has the save all and shutdown option. I don't think that the Mac has that option, unless I am missing something?



    I see, ah yes. The orginal iBook was going to have that feature, but it was canned because Apple figured most people would just put their machines to sleep.
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  • Reply 10 of 17
    quickquick Posts: 227member
    There must be more than that what people expect from "Panther" aka OS 1.3. Me, myself and I wants the Command-Y keyboard shortcut back to the Finder. It was so convenient, the only thing I really miss from OS9. Dragging my work folders to the desktop it the morning, working with it and putting all back (where it came from) with one command (y) before I shutdown the computer and leave the office. It was that easy to have everything neatly organized.

    Well, there are some more important things to implement into Panther I guess, but still, I'd like to see this feature re emerge.
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  • Reply 11 of 17
    kecksykecksy Posts: 1,002member
    I think everyone wants a new, better Finder.
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  • Reply 12 of 17
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Kecksy

    I see, ah yes. The orginal iBook was going to have that feature, but it was canned because Apple figured most people would just put their machines to sleep.



    I like the hibernation mode because when I put my notebook to hibernate I can access it right away when I start it again from school and transfer my files to my mac. It is a nice feature because it is like putting your computer to sleep but you are shutting it down. Hopefully Apple will put this feature in Panther.
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  • Reply 13 of 17
    instead of a location manager you could have two identities (create a 2nd user for on the road)
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  • Reply 14 of 17
    defjefdefjef Posts: 62member
    A feature I'd like to see in Panther is the ability to turn hiding on for the top menu bar... kind of like hiding the dock. I'd love to not have to always see the finder bar at the top of the screen. Sometimes it hides when I don't want it to but that's beside the point of this message.



    also beside the point of this message is that this is my first post to the AI boards. I've been a long time lurker but I recently had to sign up in order to search so... Hello!

    -Jeff
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  • Reply 15 of 17
    welcome Jeff
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  • Reply 16 of 17
    robsterrobster Posts: 256member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Aussie John

    instead of a location manager you could have two identities (create a 2nd user for on the road)



    True but why should I do that just to clumsily replicate some basic functionality thats been left out of OS X?
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  • Reply 17 of 17
    kecksykecksy Posts: 1,002member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Aussie John

    instead of a location manager you could have two identities (create a 2nd user for on the road)



    I don't want my files to be split between two different home directories, damit!
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