It's time for Apple to revisit these iconic products

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  • Reply 41 of 43
    AppleZuluAppleZulu Posts: 2,007member
    sandor said:
    AppleZulu said:
    sandor said:
    Per Magic Mouse, the lightning charging port is in the same location as the catch that provided access to the removable batteries in the other model. Makes sense from a design and manufacturing standpoint. Keeping it there would mean minimal internal layout changes. Also, it only takes 2-3 minutes to provide 8 hours of charge when new.
    Which doesn't make it any less ridiculous from an end-user perspective.

    Keyboard - port is right there on the back center, easy to charge & use.
    Mouse - you have to stop working to charge it.

    Home use, not a big deal, maybe.
    At the office?
    We keep a wired mouse to pass around for people whose mouse battery dies during the day.  :(
    Hilariously, asking "who has the wired mouse," finding who has it, going to get it from whoever has it, returning to your desk and plugging it in takes longer than it does to just plug in a wireless mouse for the 2 or 3 minutes it takes to charge it enough to use for the rest of the day. 
    Try telling the boss "I cannot do it because my mouse is dead."

    Sorry, even 2-3 minutes in our work environment is monumental. 

    And your time frame for recovery is ridiculously slow.
    The same as any of our peripherals or systems that are mission critical, we keep the backups close by, organized & known to end users. 
    It is not running around the office, rather simply reaching behind you to the pod's shelf & grabbing the mouse & plugging it in. 


    To be honest, this started a few OS versions ago when our iMacs would randomly drop all bluetooth connectivity.
    Bluetooth could only be restored with a restart.

    Still hilarious. If you’re running air traffic control, you shouldn’t be depending on battery-operated devices for “mission critical” activities in the first place. 

    If you’re not, but “the boss” is so high strung he can’t deal with the infrequent (let’s be honest, here; a fully charged MM lasts a long time, and won’t be depleted very often) circumstance of an employee needing a couple of minutes to deal with a minor equipment issue, that business is probably doomed anyway. 
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  • Reply 42 of 43
    boboliciousbobolicious Posts: 1,146member
    sandor said:
    lkrupp said:
    sandor said:
    Per Magic Mouse, the lightning charging port is in the same location as the catch that provided access to the removable batteries in the other model. Makes sense from a design and manufacturing standpoint. Keeping it there would mean minimal internal layout changes. Also, it only takes 2-3 minutes to provide 8 hours of charge when new.
    Which doesn't make it any less ridiculous from an end-user perspective.

    Keyboard - port is right there on the back center, easy to charge & use.
    Mouse - you have to stop working to charge it.

    Home use, not a big deal, maybe.
    At the office?
    We keep a wired mouse to pass around for people whose mouse battery dies during the day.  :(
    They can’t keep a spare battery in their desk lap drawer? Sure sounds like an office full of dumb asses to me.
    With the old Apple mouse (which we have in circulation) we do exactly this. 
    We still use our AA rechargeables & have a few 16 battery chargers.

    The new Magic Mouse has a built-in non-user serviceable battery.
    A battery in your drawer is useless.


    The dumbass is the one trying to take apart a Magic Mouse to change the battery  :s
    Indeed I expect the assumption of minimizing design / production changes may have been on point if management is increasingly focussed on profit (all things onboard) vs other options that might make more 'right to repair' sense, growing servicing revenue to the benefit of shareholders? 
    I've used heat shrink tubing to 'repair' cables to extend useful life (vs landfill) and in the case of a TB display a pricey proprietary combined design replacement and service fee, simply for a TB end plug insulation split which may have been related to heat from cooling vent exposure over time. Design again ?
    Indeed even with the Mobee wireless charger the batteries are user replaceable standard size which may extend useful product life well beyond the now OEM EOL servicing. Is that more sustainability oriented as well ?
    As far as the mouse goes I've switched back and forth between wired and MM1 (frustrating dropouts for some macOS) and could imagine an end plug for which there seems clearance without affecting the contact surfaces. Might this offer the best of both options? Hopefully the braiding on the latest cables will improve durability generally as a design improvement since 2011...


    edited April 2022 sandor
  • Reply 43 of 43
    sandorsandor Posts: 658member
    AppleZulu said:
    sandor said:
    AppleZulu said:
    sandor said:
    Per Magic Mouse, the lightning charging port is in the same location as the catch that provided access to the removable batteries in the other model. Makes sense from a design and manufacturing standpoint. Keeping it there would mean minimal internal layout changes. Also, it only takes 2-3 minutes to provide 8 hours of charge when new.
    Which doesn't make it any less ridiculous from an end-user perspective.

    Keyboard - port is right there on the back center, easy to charge & use.
    Mouse - you have to stop working to charge it.

    Home use, not a big deal, maybe.
    At the office?
    We keep a wired mouse to pass around for people whose mouse battery dies during the day.  :(
    Hilariously, asking "who has the wired mouse," finding who has it, going to get it from whoever has it, returning to your desk and plugging it in takes longer than it does to just plug in a wireless mouse for the 2 or 3 minutes it takes to charge it enough to use for the rest of the day. 
    Try telling the boss "I cannot do it because my mouse is dead."

    Sorry, even 2-3 minutes in our work environment is monumental. 

    And your time frame for recovery is ridiculously slow.
    The same as any of our peripherals or systems that are mission critical, we keep the backups close by, organized & known to end users. 
    It is not running around the office, rather simply reaching behind you to the pod's shelf & grabbing the mouse & plugging it in. 


    To be honest, this started a few OS versions ago when our iMacs would randomly drop all bluetooth connectivity.
    Bluetooth could only be restored with a restart.

    Still hilarious. If you’re running air traffic control, you shouldn’t be depending on battery-operated devices for “mission critical” activities in the first place. 

    If you’re not, but “the boss” is so high strung he can’t deal with the infrequent (let’s be honest, here; a fully charged MM lasts a long time, and won’t be depleted very often) circumstance of an employee needing a couple of minutes to deal with a minor equipment issue, that business is probably doomed anyway. 
    She, not he.

    Cancer not air traffic.

    Our solution works quite well & all involved are happy with it.
    This does not mean that we would not welcome an improvement in Apple's mouse.
    (ie charging port @ same location as the Apple keyboard, so you can charge & use at the same time)


    Your comments come off as someone that doesn't work customer-facing.
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