Texas boy's 31 cheeseburger order demonstrates why you should secure your iPhone

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  • Reply 21 of 34
    There are some comments earlier on which I wish to comment. 1. Why should Apple be broken up because users of phones don’t protect them with passwords or parental protections? How will that help? 2. Devices ‘forget’ passwords so using phone generated passwords means you can’t change it if you need to quote the old password. 3. It doesn’t matter if you keep passwords on your device if it’s secured. How can one possibly remember hundreds of passwords? 
  • Reply 22 of 34
    linkmanlinkman Posts: 1,035member
    The story left out that the kid left a $16 tip. Very generous of him (using his mom's money).
  • Reply 23 of 34
    nicholfdnicholfd Posts: 824member
    M68000 said:
    NYC362 said:
    Okay, I'm an Apple Specialist and you'd be surprised how many people have no passcode on their phones. Then you have the people who use "codes" like 0000 or 1234 to open their phone.  Even more people keep every password under the sun in an unlocked Note file.  

    The majority of people do keep their phone and passwords secure (as evidenced but the roughly half of customers who cannot remember their Apple ID password!), but there's a large number who do not.  This person is lucky that all that got ordered were a couple dozen hamburgers.  It really could've been a lot worse. 

    People- use a six digit passcode with non-repeating numbers; don't keep your passwords on your phone; and don't use the same password for everything.


    And think about the option to enable the phone to wipe clean after 10 straight bad passcodes
    Maybe you don't know how this feature works.  After the 4th or 5th attempt, you have to wait 5 minutes for the next attempt.  Then you have to wait 10 or 15 minutes for the next attempt, all the way up to over an your between the last attempts.  I think someone would be tired of trying by that time...
    ronn
  • Reply 24 of 34
    nicholfdnicholfd Posts: 824member
    alexjenn said:
    I believe it could be easy for the majority of parents if Apple implements a direct function that blocks in-app purchases, or whatever has to do with money, when the iPhone or iPad is being gave to a child for play.

    All these accidents happen because, in the real life, parents don't have time to wonder, investigate and find out if their devices do have any set to avoid mishaps, or even if these mishaps exist as well.

    The way parent control has been designed in iOS is somehow useless, moreover because is under Settings and plus because it's called Screen Time :/
    Sounds like you've not used an iPhone.  Requiring password or Face/Touch ID for transactions is set in the App Store.  Each non-Apple app has their own responsibility for managing approval of purchases - this is not Apple's responsibility. 

    You are stating parents don't "have time" to be a parent & just let their kids do whatever, without the parent being aware of what they might do????
    ronn
  • Reply 25 of 34
    nicholfdnicholfd Posts: 824member
    There are some comments earlier on which I wish to comment. 1. Why should Apple be broken up because users of phones don’t protect them with passwords or parental protections? How will that help? 2. Devices ‘forget’ passwords so using phone generated passwords means you can’t change it if you need to quote the old password. 3. It doesn’t matter if you keep passwords on your device if it’s secured. How can one possibly remember hundreds of passwords? 
    Devices don't "forget passwords".  Especially if you turn on iCloud Keychain.  And you can change ANY device remember password in the Keychain.
  • Reply 26 of 34
    thttht Posts: 5,421member
    Did the boy get to eat a cheeseburger, at least? Sounds like he really wanted one. Hopefully he got at least 1 of the 31 he ordered. :D

    Anyways, it's a non-story. Kids and parents do these kinds of things every minute of every hour of every day. On the bright side, the mom got to share a bunch of cheeseburgers with some new friends. Kind of a fun story. There are stories with much much worse outcomes involving parents not properly securing stuff from their toddlers.
    muthuk_vanalingam
  • Reply 27 of 34
    qwerty52qwerty52 Posts: 367member
    crowley said:
    NYC362 said:
    Okay, I'm an Apple Specialist and you'd be surprised how many people have no passcode on their phones. Then you have the people who use "codes" like 0000 or 1234 to open their phone.  Even more people keep every password under the sun in an unlocked Note file.  

    The majority of people do keep their phone and passwords secure (as evidenced but the roughly half of customers who cannot remember their Apple ID password!), but there's a large number who do not.  This person is lucky that all that got ordered were a couple dozen hamburgers.  It really could've been a lot worse. 

    People- use a six digit passcode with non-repeating numbers; don't keep your passwords on your phone; and don't use the same password for everything.


    Well, I guess I’m stupid, because I’m not going to follow your advice. I need my passwords on my phone just in case of an emergency. I used to keep them on a sheet of paper but that idea started to not work out very well for me. I also don’t lock the note. If you lock the note, will it unlock with FaceID? I do lock my phone, so maybe I’m not completely stupid.
    Why not put them in the obvious place, Settings > Passwords?   They're secured with FaceID and if you switch iCloud keychain on they'll be backed up in iCloud and available on your Mac too.

    Yes!
    And when you need them, they're automatically filled out by your iPhone, iPad or your Mac. You even don’t have to know your passwords........
  • Reply 28 of 34
    Everyone seems to be focused on the story as truthfully Described.
    My take is that the mother made a number error and tapped an extra digit. She panicked when she realized her mistake and blamed the toddler. What toddler would add a reasonable tip?
  • Reply 29 of 34
    XedXed Posts: 2,519member
    Everyone seems to be focused on the story as truthfully Described.
    My take is that the mother made a number error and tapped an extra digit. She panicked when she realized her mistake and blamed the toddler. What toddler would add a reasonable tip?
    You state that with the assumption that its inclusion means the child was actively trying to add a reasonable tip, which debunks the story for you. Did you consider that—like every food service app I've ever used—when you complete an order it asks you if you'd like to tip, usually putting some buttons with common tip amounts front and center?
    ronn
  • Reply 30 of 34
    slow n easyslow n easy Posts: 316member
    sflocal said:
    NYC362 said:
    Okay, I'm an Apple Specialist and you'd be surprised how many people have no passcode on their phones. Then you have the people who use "codes" like 0000 or 1234 to open their phone.  Even more people keep every password under the sun in an unlocked Note file.  

    The majority of people do keep their phone and passwords secure (as evidenced but the roughly half of customers who cannot remember their Apple ID password!), but there's a large number who do not.  This person is lucky that all that got ordered were a couple dozen hamburgers.  It really could've been a lot worse. 

    People- use a six digit passcode with non-repeating numbers; don't keep your passwords on your phone; and don't use the same password for everything.


    Well, I guess I’m stupid, because I’m not going to follow your advice. I need my passwords on my phone just in case of an emergency. I used to keep them on a sheet of paper but that idea started to not work out very well for me. I also don’t lock the note. If you lock the note, will it unlock with FaceID? I do lock my phone, so maybe I’m not completely stupid.
    I haven't had to write down a password in ages.  What's your use case?  MacOS and iOS (for me) does a great job of managing passwords.
    I don’t know how many people will even read this because I forgot to check the responses and it’s been a couple of days but I actually do use iCloud keychain. I’m not sure why but there have been times where the information doesn’t automatically fill in for me. Also if I check the information in the password app, the app lists the name of the website which may or may not help me figure out what it’s for. For example, I just checked my passwords in iCloud keychain and there is a password for healthx.com. I’m not really sure what that is or what it’s for other than it must have something to do with health care. There is another one  called live.com and I’m not really sure what that one is for either. If I put everything in the notes app, then I can call the name of the log-in site whichever name makes sense for me. 
  • Reply 31 of 34
    zoetmbzoetmb Posts: 2,654member
    chadbag said:
    I am interested in how the iOS parental controls would have prevented this. My understanding is that the kid had the mom's phone, not his own, and I don't think parents are meant to put parental controls on their own phones.  

    Now, faceID with Apple Pay for payment makes sense in this case.  And generally locking the phone when not in use 
    The last sentence.  Locking the phone. What kind of idiot doesn’t have a password protected phone?   With TouchID or FaceID, there’s virtually no inconvenience.  I live alone and have a password protected phone and whenever I purchase anything it requires another ID check.  So there’s no way anyone else, unless they can get past the FaceID check, can order anything using my phone even if I unlocked my phone and handed it to a kid to play with. 
    tht
  • Reply 32 of 34
    macguimacgui Posts: 2,350member
    Everyone seems to be focused on the story as truthfully Described.
    My take is that the mother made a number error and tapped an extra digit. She panicked when she realized her mistake and blamed the toddler. What toddler would add a reasonable tip?
    I think you're full of crap. More than that kid if he ate all 31 cheeseburgers. So in your world Mom is ordering a cheeseburger and taps in an extra digit. She obviously panics at not being able to correct a simple mistake?? So to cover this up she continues the checkout and leaves a $16 tip??. Like that other fool you think she goes on to tell the world of innertubes for her 15 microseconds of fame? You actually believe that. In the infinite wisdom of Bugs Bunny...


  • Reply 33 of 34
    Anilu_777Anilu_777 Posts: 521member
    NYC362 said:
    Okay, I'm an Apple Specialist and you'd be surprised how many people have no passcode on their phones. Then you have the people who use "codes" like 0000 or 1234 to open their phone.  Even more people keep every password under the sun in an unlocked Note file.  

    The majority of people do keep their phone and passwords secure (as evidenced but the roughly half of customers who cannot remember their Apple ID password!), but there's a large number who do not.  This person is lucky that all that got ordered were a couple dozen hamburgers.  It really could've been a lot worse. 

    People- use a six digit passcode with non-repeating numbers; don't keep your passwords on your phone; and don't use the same password for everything.


    I use iCloud Keychain for my passwords which requires Face ID or my passcode to unlock. My 6-digit passcode to unlock the phone could be figured out by family but others would have a harder time. Lol I saw a video of Kanye West opening his Face ID phone with a 0000 passcode! 
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