Apple reportedly agrees to TSMC chip price hike

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in iPhone edited October 5
After a report less than a week ago claimed that Apple was balking at paying TSMC more, Apple has allegedly agreed to accept a manufacturing price hike.




In late September, Apple was reported to have rejected TSMC's plan to raise its chip manufacture prices by up to 6%.

Now, a report from Economic Daily News on Tuesday evening suggests that Apple has agreed to the price increase.

TSMC is a major manufacturer when it comes to chips for Apple devices. Apple could likely be the first company to employ TSMC's new 3-nanometer processors for the anticipated A17 in 2023's iPhone 15 Pro.

It's not clear what the price hike is specifically for, either 3nm, later processes, or the next batch of chip production. Apple and TSMC are likely well along in the next round of chip production -- which is not an instant process.

TSMC was first rumored in August 2022 to be planning an increase. Shortly afterwards it formally told its customers that the price rise would take place in 2023.

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  • Reply 1 of 23
    It is not a price hike. Everything in US is getting more expensive. Gas price is $6/gallon. This is more than 6% higher than last year. LOL
    lolliverwatto_cobra
  • Reply 2 of 23
    Apple doesn’t have a choice. Where else will they get their chips made?
    bloggerblogdk49watto_cobrajony0
  • Reply 3 of 23
    entropysentropys Posts: 3,704member
    If only Apple hadn’t sacked their most effective negotiator….
    boboliciousbaconstangbloggerblogwatto_cobrajony0
  • Reply 4 of 23
    XedXed Posts: 1,513member
    It is not a price hike. Everything in US is getting more expensive. Gas price is $6/gallon. This is more than 6% higher than last year. LOL
    You say it's not a price hike but then go on to state how goods and services in the US are increasing their prices. Price hike = price increase, and neither indicates that the increase is any way unwarranted. 
    muthuk_vanalingamtdknoxgrandact73FileMakerFellerwatto_cobra
  • Reply 5 of 23
    boboliciousbobolicious Posts: 1,027member
    entropys said:
    If only Apple hadn’t sacked their most effective negotiator….
    ... perhaps TSMC made him an offer ... : )
    entropysbaconstangwatto_cobrajony0
  • Reply 6 of 23
    blastdoorblastdoor Posts: 2,822member
    It is not a price hike. Everything in US is getting more expensive. Gas price is $6/gallon. This is more than 6% higher than last year. LOL
    https://gasprices.aaa.com/

    TLDR — way less than $6/gallon.
    pulseimagesjas99watto_cobra
  • Reply 7 of 23
    blastdoor said:
    It is not a price hike. Everything in US is getting more expensive. Gas price is $6/gallon. This is more than 6% higher than last year. LOL
    https://gasprices.aaa.com/

    TLDR — way less than $6/gallon.

    baconstangmac daddy zeetdknoxgrandact73FileMakerFeller
  • Reply 8 of 23
    blastdoor said:
    It is not a price hike. Everything in US is getting more expensive. Gas price is $6/gallon. This is more than 6% higher than last year. LOL
    https://gasprices.aaa.com/

    TLDR — way less than $6/gallon.

    California has always been higher than the rest of the country. 
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 9 of 23
    danoxdanox Posts: 1,326member
    Thanks to I Apple I can afford the price in gas and computers…..Thank you now where is that large screen iMac?
    baconstangjas99watto_cobra
  • Reply 10 of 23
    Maybe earlier speculation on refusal of price hike was wrong (like lots of other Apple-related "news").  

    TSMC (TSM) likely provided data that price hike was justified.  Switching to Samsung would have set back development.  
    Out five years, others are planning 2nm and 1.4nm processes.  

    Gas is about $3.25-3.65 in Ohio, up due to a refinery fire last month.  
    High gas prices are hastening the switch over to electric.  
    Ohio has also developed a lot of renewable energy, one of the reasons Intel is planning 7 chip fabs in Ohio.  
    I'm running on Ohio river area hydroelectric at a rate 75% that of natural gas (and far less than coal).  
    rezwitsbageljoeyjas99watto_cobra
  • Reply 11 of 23
    dk49dk49 Posts: 227member
    entropys said:
    If only Apple hadn’t sacked their most effective negotiator….
    I was actually a bit surprised by that. What he does in his personal life shouldn't be mixed with his professional life. 
    FileMakerFellerwatto_cobra
  • Reply 12 of 23
    Paul_BPaul_B Posts: 82member
    Maybe earlier speculation on refusal of price hike was wrong (like lots of other Apple-related "news").  

    TSMC (TSM) likely provided data that price hike was justified.  Switching to Samsung would have set back development.  
    Out five years, others are planning 2nm and 1.4nm processes.  

    Gas is about $3.25-3.65 in Ohio, up due to a refinery fire last month.  
    High gas prices are hastening the switch over to electric.  
    Ohio has also developed a lot of renewable energy, one of the reasons Intel is planning 7 chip fabs in Ohio.  
    I'm running on Ohio river area hydroelectric at a rate 75% that of natural gas (and far less than coal).  

    You CANNOT get smaller than 4nm in the Laws of Physics - Do the research yourself.  As for dams, well research that as well.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 13 of 23
    It is not a price hike. Everything in US is getting more expensive. Gas price is $6/gallon. This is more than 6% higher than last year. LOL
    Only 6? In europe it’s far over 100% since lat year
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 14 of 23
    blastdoorblastdoor Posts: 2,822member
    blastdoor said:
    It is not a price hike. Everything in US is getting more expensive. Gas price is $6/gallon. This is more than 6% higher than last year. LOL
    https://gasprices.aaa.com/

    TLDR — way less than $6/gallon.

    The spelling of CA is not US.

    nationally, gas prices have fallen from over 5 to under 4.
    jas99watto_cobra
  • Reply 15 of 23
    blastdoorblastdoor Posts: 2,822member
    tiger2 said:
    Apple doesn’t have a choice. Where else will they get their chips made?
    Currently there is no choice. Apple has to hope Intel foundry makes good on their roadmap — that’s probably the best hope for a TSMC alternative. Given Intel’s track record over the last 7 years, that’s not a great hope.
    jas99watto_cobra
  • Reply 16 of 23
    bageljoeybageljoey Posts: 1,977member
    Paul_B said:

    You CANNOT get smaller than 4nm in the Laws of Physics - Do the research yourself.  As for dams, well research that as well.
    Hahahahahaha!  “Do the research!”  I spit out my coffee reading this. 
    I did a research paper on silicon for an applied chemistry class back in 91 or 92. I had a stack of books that very clearly and definitively stated that 100 nm was the absolute smallest transistor size possible, but that was just a theoretical limit—200 was probably the practical limit. Because of the laws of physics. 

    The laws of physics may be inmutable, but our understanding of them is in constant flux. 
    mike1tenthousandthingsXedbeowulfschmidtrezwitsFileMakerFellerwatto_cobra
  • Reply 17 of 23
    XedXed Posts: 1,513member
    Paul_B said:
    Maybe earlier speculation on refusal of price hike was wrong (like lots of other Apple-related "news").  

    TSMC (TSM) likely provided data that price hike was justified.  Switching to Samsung would have set back development.  
    Out five years, others are planning 2nm and 1.4nm processes.  

    Gas is about $3.25-3.65 in Ohio, up due to a refinery fire last month.  
    High gas prices are hastening the switch over to electric.  
    Ohio has also developed a lot of renewable energy, one of the reasons Intel is planning 7 chip fabs in Ohio.  
    I'm running on Ohio river area hydroelectric at a rate 75% that of natural gas (and far less than coal).  

    You CANNOT get smaller than 4nm in the Laws of Physics - Do the research yourself.  As for dams, well research that as well.
    Besides what Bageljoey stated, 3nm is already being done. To quote your own words, "do the research," as this Wikipedia page has over 50 citations to educate you.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_nm_process
    rezwitswatto_cobra
  • Reply 18 of 23
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member
    It is not a price hike. Everything in US is getting more expensive. Gas price is $6/gallon. This is more than 6% higher than last year. LOL
    The fuck crazy sauce you on now?  Everything being hiked does not mean that nothing is being hiked.
    tokyojimublastdoorwatto_cobra
  • Reply 19 of 23
    Xed said:
    Paul_B said:
    Maybe earlier speculation on refusal of price hike was wrong (like lots of other Apple-related "news").  

    TSMC (TSM) likely provided data that price hike was justified.  Switching to Samsung would have set back development.  
    Out five years, others are planning 2nm and 1.4nm processes.  

    Gas is about $3.25-3.65 in Ohio, up due to a refinery fire last month.  
    High gas prices are hastening the switch over to electric.  
    Ohio has also developed a lot of renewable energy, one of the reasons Intel is planning 7 chip fabs in Ohio.  
    I'm running on Ohio river area hydroelectric at a rate 75% that of natural gas (and far less than coal).  

    You CANNOT get smaller than 4nm in the Laws of Physics - Do the research yourself.  As for dams, well research that as well.
    Besides what Bageljoey stated, 3nm is already being done. To quote your own words, "do the research," as this Wikipedia page has over 50 citations to educate you.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_nm_process
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOSFET#Scaling
    FileMakerFeller
  • Reply 20 of 23
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 10,160member
    "After a report less than a week ago claimed that Apple was balking at paying TSMC more, Apple has allegedly agreed to accept a manufacturing price hike.”

    No verified facts or corroboration, just rumors taken as gospel by those with an axe to grind and all designed to throw shade at Apple. News at 11. Maybe they did, maybe they didn’t. Nothing that deserves 20 comments.

    The three word we always hear, ‘reports’, ‘claims’, ‘allegations’ that never need proof, just blind belief, 
    you know, like politicians.
    edited October 5 FileMakerFellerwatto_cobra
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