The performance spread continues

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in General Discussion edited January 2014
Apple better release the 970 chip Powermac's fast.

http://computers.cnet.com/hardware/0...-1.html?tag=ld



There is enough of a gap in performance between it and the PC for Apple to let any more of a performance spread to occur.



This reminds me of a running race where the leader just keeps increasing his lead.



Come on Apple, come out with the new chips NOW!

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  • Reply 1 of 17
    chychchych Posts: 860member
    And in other news, the sky is blue, the earth is round, apple's computers are expensive
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  • Reply 2 of 17
    murbotmurbot Posts: 5,262member
    Film at 11.
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  • Reply 3 of 17
    kecksykecksy Posts: 1,002member
    The new Intel stuff is barely faster than their old stuff. Not a big deal.
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  • Reply 4 of 17
    fotnsfotns Posts: 301member
    The new CPU isn't that big a deal, but the Canterwood chipset is. It has an 800MHz system bus and dual channel 400MHz DDR, which enables the memory bus to match the system bus throughput. This will enable future CPUs to reach their full potential as well as keeping upcoming video cards like the Radeon 9800 and Geforce 5800 fed with data. Throw in a bunch of USB2 and Serial RAID ATA ports and you have a pretty nifty motherboard.
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  • Reply 5 of 17
    airslufairsluf Posts: 1,861member
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  • Reply 6 of 17
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by FotNS

    The new CPU isn't that big a deal, but the Canterwood chipset is. It has an 800MHz system bus and dual channel 400MHz DDR, which enables the memory bus to match the system bus throughput. This will enable future CPUs to reach their full potential as well as keeping upcoming video cards like the Radeon 9800 and Geforce 5800 fed with data. Throw in a bunch of USB2 and Serial RAID ATA ports and you have a pretty nifty motherboard.



    Indeed, up till now, all Serial-ATA implementations have been on PCI based controllers, so they were limited to 133 MB/s in most cases.



    And this mainboard frm Gigabyte is pretty sexy despite the vomit-inducing colors.







    Count em:

    2 x U320 SCSI connectors

    2 x Serial-ATA/150 connectors

    2 x Ultra-ATA/133 connectors

    2 x Ultra-ATA/100 connectors

    6 x Dual-Channel DDR memory slots
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  • Reply 7 of 17
    ast3r3xast3r3x Posts: 5,012member
    why so many DDR slots...i didn't read about the board just skimmin over this thread, but that seems like overkill since they are (i think still) 32bit, so they can only address like 2GB right?
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  • Reply 8 of 17
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by ast3r3x

    why so many DDR slots...i didn't read about the board just skimmin over this thread, but that seems like overkill since they are (i think still) 32bit, so they can only address like 2GB right?



    AFAIK, Intel hacked into its chips 36-bit memory addressing a while ago. As wel, since the RAM has to be installed in pairs, it makes life easier for people who don't want to go overboard. Installing six 256 MB DIMMs for example.
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  • Reply 9 of 17
    xmogerxmoger Posts: 242member
    Bah, That Gigabyte board is nice, but slower than the Abit 875 mobo.

    http://www.abit.com.tw/abitweb/webjs...CNO=en_0304141



    1 GHz FSB, dual channel 500Mhz DDR



    They even claim to have overclocked the Intel gigabit nic.
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  • Reply 10 of 17
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by xmoger

    Bah, That Gigabyte board is nice, but slower than the Abit 875 mobo.

    http://www.abit.com.tw/abitweb/webjs...CNO=en_0304141



    1 GHz FSB, dual channel 500Mhz DDR



    They even claim to have overclocked the Intel gigabit nic.




    I'd rather have the extra features of the Gigabyte vs the overclockability + softmenu of the Abit. The Gigabyte should be plenty overclockable for most people anyway.



    What I really want is passive cooling on the northbridge. Looks like very few 875P boards have that besides the Intel board.
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  • Reply 11 of 17
    enaena Posts: 667member
    I hate to say this but:



    I just built an Athalon 2000XP machine on a $110 dollar board (333mhz fsb)---all told ( I used an old case, etc) about $400.



    It kicks my Dual 1GHz's ass.



    I think paid about $2000 grand for that mac---it makes me sick.
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  • Reply 12 of 17
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,445member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by ena

    I hate to say this but:



    I just built an Athalon 2000XP machine on a $110 dollar board (333mhz fsb)---all told ( I used an old case, etc) about $400.



    It kicks my Dual 1GHz's ass.



    I think paid about $2000 grand for that mac---it makes me sick.




    It shouldn't. Look at your Frankenbox and then your Powermac and ask yourself which one looks better? Which one runs OSX?



    It's really nice to have both. Computers so commonplace now I doubt I would ever standardize on one platform.
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  • Reply 13 of 17
    murbotmurbot Posts: 5,262member
    2 thousand grand! That's like 2 million bucks!
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  • Reply 14 of 17
    enaena Posts: 667member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by hmurchison

    It shouldn't. Look at your Frankenbox and then your Powermac and ask yourself which one looks better? Which one runs OSX?



    It's really nice to have both. Computers so commonplace now I doubt I would ever standardize on one platform.






    I hear you---but OSX was my undoing. I transitioned from a 500mhz G3 to the Dual 1Ghz thinking that I could use virtual PC and FH10, AI10 and Office X.



    VPC was slower than my old 450 PII, and both FH and AI where a little slower on X (10.1.5) than 9; Office X (test drive) choked on my fonts. I got the hell out of dodge.



    Would somebody slap me silly or do I have to settle for sucky performance until I put out for a 970?



    Or is 10.2 that much better?
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  • Reply 15 of 17
    enaena Posts: 667member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by murbot

    2 thousand grand! That's like 2 million bucks!



    then I definitly paid too much---damn resellers
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  • Reply 16 of 17
    kecksykecksy Posts: 1,002member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by ena

    I hear you---but OSX was my undoing. I transitioned from a 500mhz G3 to the Dual 1Ghz thinking that I could use virtual PC and FH10, AI10 and Office X.



    VPC was slower than my old 450 PII, and both FH and AI where a little slower on X (10.1.5) than 9; Office X (test drive) choked on my fonts. I got the hell out of dodge.



    Would somebody slap me silly or do I have to settle for sucky performance until I put out for a 970?



    Or is 10.2 that much better?




    10.2 is faster than 10.1, but at this point, wait until Panther before upgrading. No point in paying $129 twice in six months.
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  • Reply 17 of 17
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by ena

    I hate to say this but:



    I just built an Athalon 2000XP machine on a $110 dollar board (333mhz fsb)---all told ( I used an old case, etc) about $400.




    I spent about $1000 on components for my 2.4 GHz P4, not including peripherals, monitor, speakers, anyw software, etc. Overall, the equipment is cheaper but the mental anguish is much greater.



    My Windows XP PC starts complaining when...



    1) I don't install chipset, video, sound, etc. drivers in a particular order... check out this messageboard for an example of how much thought has to be put into installation order.

    2) I reinstall the OS on wiped HDD and got this STOP error on my Western Digital HDD. It seems like the MBR doesn't get wiped fully.

    3) I fool around in the BIOS and try to change some settings like Standby modes and such. I got more STOP errors complaining about various system files like redbook.sys and whatever.

    4) I change components in my computer and Windows XP Pro thinks I'm a pirate, forcing me to write down a 54 digit ID code and another 42 digit reregistration code...



    It's almost not worth it.
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