new firewire2 on the horizon
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so obviously theres very near plans for it to come out soon. what are the chances of apple letting firewire2 be made and sold by other manufacturers before its standard on all of their lineup?
so obviously theres very near plans for it to come out soon. what are the chances of apple letting firewire2 be made and sold by other manufacturers before its standard on all of their lineup?
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well... i´d say this is still pretty vague. i´d rather try to keep myself from premature ejaculation.
<strong>I don't think Apple has any control over 1394b. Companies will release 1394b products when they decide to do so.</strong><hr></blockquote>
The point is they have control whenter or not they put it on their hardware the rest will com later
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The point is they have control whenter or not they put it on their hardware the rest will com later</strong><hr></blockquote>
Huh? WTF kinda sentence is that?
KEYWORD = SHOULD
<strong>does anyone else remember when the original b/w G3 came out, it was heralded as being "legacy free"? well seems to me that USB 1 and FireWire 1 are turning into legacy ports. what happened to Apply being AHEAD of the curve, rather than trailing it. all i can say is FireWire 2 has to be around the corner. i hope it shows up soon, along with USB 2.</strong><hr></blockquote>
The problem is what current products are saturating a FW bus beyond RAIDS. Not many so their not a Warchant going for FW2 yet. USB2 is a different scenario because the initial USB hit it's ceiling much faster.
This is from mackido, written in 1999:
"FireWire already has 800 Mbps designed (1394b), and will evolve to that speed as we need it (and chips become more available). FireWire was designed to scale in the first place -- and there is also a 1.6 Gbps version or two in the books (not quite formalized, but ready to go if needed)..<strong> FireWire will go to 800 Mbps this year or next, and 1.6 Gbps probably in another year or so after that. USB 2.0 is not born yet... in fact, it isn't even yet fully conceived -- it is more a dirty thought in someone's mind.</strong> The draft for the specification is being finalized, but still has some more work to go. Give it another 6 months to a year (when FireWire is at 800 Mbps), and the requirements and design will be done for USB 2.0 -- another 6 month to a year, and the first versions might be leaking out -- and another 1 - 2 years to get all the bugs and kinks worked out (changes impact reliability) -- then another 2 - 3 years to get everyone using the higher speed versions of USB (if ever). USB 2.0 should be marketed as, "Yesterday's technology tomorrow... only worse".
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[ 08-18-2002: Message edited by: Big Mac ]</p>
Isn't that the case with all available hardware tech?
Apple doesn't control 1394. Its an open IEE spec with a tech workgroup. TI, who claims to have the first 1394b silicon isn't touting widespread delivery (i.e. production) until the second half of 2002.
And then all this does not do any good (at least storage wise) until there is bridge chip/HD tech that can take advantage of 800 mb/s. most everything else that 1394 is used for right now works fine at 400 mb/s.
I hope IBM will be very commited to delivering state of the art desktop processors for Apple. I think there is a good chance, since IBM would really like to stomp all over Intel in the performance race. Appe will give IBM a good chance to showcase their technology. IBM wants customers for their new plant, and what better way to demonstrate their prowess?
That's why,
<a href="http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2002/apr/04zayante.html" target="_blank">Apple acquired Zayante</a>.
In fact, I believe the founders of Zayante came from the Apple division that developed Firewire.
Another thing that's leeched some of the success (I wouldn't call Firewire lukewarmly received) is Intel. They're the ones who backed USB 2.0 as Firewire killer. Now USB 2.0 has definitely been lukewarm.
Screed
[ 08-18-2002: Message edited by: sCreeD ]</p>
[quote]General release of the world's first 1394B FireWire solution is slated for the December 2002 timeframe. Not only is the Oxford OXUF922 a 1394B link, it will also include an integrated USB2.0 Phy and Link layer as well! <hr></blockquote>
Screed ...so the peripherals will be ready...
Complying with the ATA6 high-density drive specifications, the UF922's 133 MHz IDE controller handles a data rate of 80MBps and assures compatibility with all magnetic, optical and compact flash media. In non-storage applications, the IDE interface can be reconfigured as a high performance DMA host controller port.