Time travel and Apple legal

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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
If you constructed a time machine that let you accelerate foward in time to January 7, 2002 and gathered all the information you could on new machines and travel back to your present time and post all the new information on AI, could Apple legal go after you? What if you showed them the machine and how you did it, i think they would have no case since you didn't break any NDA or conducted any industrial espionage. yup, your hands would be squeaky clean in any court in the land.



Now the only paradox would be when Steve finds out and cancels MWSF02 out of spite. And we won't see those machines until MWNY. In which case the specs I would have mentioned would be outdated and my excursion would have been worthless.



(BTW: new G5's at up to 1.6GHz, DDR333, LCD iMac with 1GHz G4 but you didn't read this here)

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  • Reply 1 of 19
    [quote]Originally posted by Outsider:

    <strong>&lt;Snipped some stuff about a time machine and Apple Legal coming after you when you went to January 7, 2002 and back...yeah!&gt;



    (BTW: new G5's at up to 1.6GHz, DDR333, LCD iMac with 1GHz G4 but you didn't read this here)</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Ummm...OK, Outsider! We'll see if you're correct when we get there ourselves, though the natural time machine of time itself...



    --Alexis
  • Reply 2 of 19
    spartspart Posts: 2,060member
    If i had a time machine, i would go 5 years into the future, look at the new hardware, say "whoa", buy a now cheap dual 800 g4 on ebay w/assload of ram, go back to now, live happy <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
  • Reply 3 of 19
    I would travel BACK in time and stop this silly thread from existing,



    disclaimernot that I'm anti-silly, but time travel is such an "if only, I wish, that would be cool" scenario and I've had enough of that.
  • Reply 4 of 19
    erbiumerbium Posts: 354member
    Wow, it's amazing how pathetic everyone around here get's as we move closer to MacWorld.
  • Reply 5 of 19
    If I had a time machine, Apple Computer would definently be very, very low on my priorities.
  • Reply 6 of 19
    g-newsg-news Posts: 1,107member
    It's most likely, that if it ever will be possible to travel through time (and space), mankind will extinct itself, or even more, the whole Universe maybe, by creating some kind of paradox nobody thought about. Thus let's better hope we'll never be able to.



    G-News



    P.S: You'd die in the future, cause you'd be visiting a non existant expo, thus falling between the space-time continuum, which must be a very bad thing to do.
  • Reply 7 of 19
    emaneman Posts: 7,204member
    [quote]Originally posted by James Flowers:

    <strong>If i had a time machine, i would go 5 years into the future, look at the new hardware, say "whoa", buy a now cheap dual 800 g4 on ebay w/assload of ram, go back to now, live happy <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>



    Souns like something I'd do too.
  • Reply 8 of 19
    outsideroutsider Posts: 6,008member
    Man some of you guys have been abducted once too many times.... they left a probe in there somewhere.
  • Reply 9 of 19
    tjmtjm Posts: 367member
    Well, to play along for a moment...



    Assuming you're not covered by an NDA, then no, Apple would have no legal case. On the other hand, why would anyone have reason to believe you? Look at all the people posting here claiming to know what's coming. They've all been ridiculed to a large extent. What would give you any credibility?



    If you were to actually purchase and bring back some of the new hardware as proof, then there would be quite a legal conundrum. You would be in possession of items which, technically, you had not yet bought. Could they indict you for theft? :eek: Would a receipt dated Jan. 8, 2002 be of any use? Would they have to hold you in detention until they saw you appear in SF and legally buy the equipment? :confused:



    An interesting philosophical question, anyway...
  • Reply 10 of 19
    vinney57vinney57 Posts: 1,162member
    I'm going to travel forward to 1976 and get me a flying car!
  • Reply 11 of 19
    if you had a time machine, wouldn't it be more practical to travel back in time?



    then you could influence BG when he was a kid to study, oh say, art or geology something like that. and if you stuck around, you could have taken his place in history. then all of our problems would be quite a bit different now wouldn't they?





    p.s. buying stocks back then may or may not have worked for you. consider this: if M$ didn't exist, then it's influence also wouldn't exist...and who knows what effect your presence , back then, would have on our history now?



    hmmmmm, very scary things....
  • Reply 12 of 19
    outsideroutsider Posts: 6,008member
    TJM, some lawyer would argue that you never infact did buy the machine and he would be correct. But they have to prove you aquired it illegally. Apple would see that the serial number would be of a machine they have yet to make or worse they would also have the same machine in a warehouse locked up. But that begs the question. The instant you came back from the future wouldn't the machine in the warehouse disappear in the box? You'd have an empty sealed box. Or another possibility would be as soon as you came back from the future, both machines would implode because the same exact quantum particles cannot exist in 2 times simultaneously. The whole universe might implode with them. Unsavory consequences to say the least. But at leat there wouln't be anyone around to place the blame and the whole terrorist thing wouldn't be an issue anymore.
  • Reply 13 of 19
    Fortunately, we can rest assured in the knowledge that whatever happens, happens.



    There is nothing we can do to change what happens, what happened and what will happen. Space time paradoxes can't exist, because if they did, they wouldn't.



    See 12 monkeys for further reference.



    Incidently, if I had a time machine, among other things, I'd grab a G4, take it back to 1980 and say "whammo Apple - check this puppy out. You got 10 years to work out what makes this thing tick, and thn fab a whole lot more."



    Unfortunately it's clear I never did that, although it's still possible that in a few months I'll be back from 2012 with the G9 and give/sell it to Apple.



    I can't wait.
  • Reply 14 of 19
    outsideroutsider Posts: 6,008member
    I saw 12 monkeys. Many many times. Ever since I have been fascinated by time travel paradoxes and such. Or faster than light paradoxes. Those can make your mind numb. Especially the ones where you travel back in time while going faster than light.
  • Reply 15 of 19
    erbiumerbium Posts: 354member
    HOW BOUT WE ALL GO BACK IN TIME AND SEARCH FOR SEA MONKEYS!!!! :eek:





    or we could just start a new thread...
  • Reply 16 of 19
    I would go into the future and bring back a hover-board to play with.
  • Reply 17 of 19
    outsideroutsider Posts: 6,008member
    erbium, the only paradox here is how early on you state how pathetic this thread is and you come back and say it we should start another thread. What does that say about you? Did you travel back in time and have a bad experience? Maybe you traveled foward in time saw this comment and travelled back in time to try and close the thread. That's the ONLY possible explanation.
  • Reply 18 of 19
    Sorry, maybe I just need to point out when I'm [B]trying[/B}to be sarcastic.
  • Reply 19 of 19
    [quote]Originally posted by G-News:

    <strong>It's most likely, that if it ever will be possible to travel through time (and space), mankind will extinct itself, or even more, the whole Universe maybe, by creating some kind of paradox nobody thought about. Thus let's better hope we'll never be able to.



    G-News



    P.S: You'd die in the future, cause you'd be visiting a non existant expo, thus falling between the space-time continuum, which must be a very bad thing to do.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I like to think of the whole time travel thing as they described it in Dragonball Z (good action anime).



    If you go back in time and change somehting, it doesn't change your future, but it changes the future of the time you traveled to. Meaning that the road would split at that point in time, and there would exist two futures. The future you came from, and the new future you created.



    Therefore, if you went back in time and killed yourself, there would be no paradox. Your future would still exists, but a different one would be created as time progressed for that time period.



    Now, this all doesn't describe traveling into the future. I don't know quite how that would work yet
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