New iPod: dual platform use out of the box?

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in iPod + iTunes + AppleTV edited January 2014
i have a friend who's considering buying an iPod but only if he can use it on both his PC and his girlfriend's Mac. Is that possible with the new iPod? It seems to me it might be possible, because Apple no longer seems to be selling the PC and Mac version separately (at least judging from the online Apple Store). In which case, what format is the hard drive formatted in: HFS+ or FAT32 or is it partitioned? I am having difficulty imagining how Apple could achieve this dual use out of the box.



If true however, my friend would be very happy, and probably lots of other people who surely are in the same situation. It also would help tremendously with those legions of switchers who are kind of on the fence or still transitioning.



Any info appreciated. Thanks.

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  • Reply 1 of 9
    buonrottobuonrotto Posts: 6,368member
    From the iPod page:



    "The new iPod was designed for listening to digital music away from your computer ? whether it?s a Mac or Windows PC. One simple connection does it all. A handy new dock connector on the bottom of the iPod enables the device to link to a computer and sync files via FireWire 400 (Mac or Windows) or USB 2.0 (Windows only)."



    One iPod will work with either a PC or a Mac. That's all I know. I've heard that the iPods are initially formatted HFS+ but if they're plugged into a Pc, they reformat to a Win32 FS. I don't know if that's really possible, but it has to do something to work with both platfrms out of the box.
  • Reply 2 of 9
    ludwigvanludwigvan Posts: 458member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by BuonRotto

    One iPod will work with either a PC or a Mac. That's all I know. I've heard that the iPods are initially formatted HFS+ but if they're plugged into a Pc, they reformat to a Win32 FS. I don't know if that's really possible, but it has to do something to work with both platfrms out of the box.



    That's right. According to KBase article 61903:



    "As shipped from the factory, iPod's hard disk is formatted as a Mac OS Extended format (HFS Plus) volume. When you connect iPod to a PC, iPod for Windows 2.0 software reformats the disk using the Windows (FAT32) format. If iPod does not appear in MusicMatch the first time you connect it after installing the software, the disk may be still formatted as a Mac OS Extended disk. You can check the disk format in the About Screen in the Settings menu. If it does not say "Windows" then reinstall the iPod software and check again to make sure it formatted the disk using the Windows (FAT32) format."



    The article was created on April 28, 2003.
  • Reply 3 of 9
    frawgzfrawgz Posts: 547member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by cygsid

    i have a friend who's considering buying an iPod but only if he can use it on both his PC and his girlfriend's Mac. Is that possible with the new iPod?



    Seems like he actually plans to re-sync the iPod every time he alternates between his computer and his girlfriend's?
  • Reply 4 of 9
    pesipesi Posts: 424member
    well, you can't use an ipod on more than one computer, period. whether it be pc or mac. without using some extra software, that is. the way the ipod is defaultly set up, it's tied to one particular computer, as a sort of weak DRM.
  • Reply 5 of 9
    coolmaccoolmac Posts: 259member
    When plugging the new iPod into a PC for the first time after using it with a Mac, does the conversion to FAT 32 erase all the songs already on the iPod?
  • Reply 6 of 9
    screedscreed Posts: 1,077member
    As the Apple Kbase says "formatted", IOW wiped not converted.



    I think the only new cross-platform support for the new iPods is the Firewire/USB2 connection and nothing internal to the device.



    Screed
  • Reply 7 of 9
    bryan.furybryan.fury Posts: 164member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by pesi

    well, you can't use an ipod on more than one computer, period. whether it be pc or mac. without using some extra software, that is. the way the ipod is defaultly set up, it's tied to one particular computer, as a sort of weak DRM.



    this from apple's ipod page:

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    Updating your iPod music collection

    Let?s say you have a Mac or PC at home and another at school or work. When you first connect iPod with your Mac or PC, iPod recognizes it as your primary computer. From then on, it automatically updates your music on iPod to match the music library on that computer. When you connect to a different Mac or PC, a dialog box asks if you want to link your iPod with this new iTunes Library, in effect making it your new primary computer. Updating is as simple as that.



    Manual mode option

    Prefer to manage your music directly or have music on different computers? No problem. Both iTunes 4 and MUSICMATCH Jukebox give you the option to control the contents of your iPod by dragging individual songs to create your own custom playlists. This lets you decide when you want to update your iPod (it will not be affected by any changes in your music library).



    ---------------------------------------





    so i guess you can connect an ipod to as many computers as you want and keep adding stuff to it as you like!



    the big ? is can you upload music to your computer through itunes or do have to use the ipod as an harddisc to transfer music from one computer to another?
  • Reply 8 of 9
    gargoylegargoyle Posts: 660member
    while I was messing with the old iPod, I think if you have macDrive on your PC it will spot a mac iPod and let you access it.



    Dont quote me on that tho, I am only 50% sure
  • Reply 9 of 9
    o and ao and a Posts: 579member
    Buy XPLAY for windows. It will let you use ur ipod on the pc and sync it even thought the its a mac formatted ipod and it will still sync with your mac.
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