Burning CDs from iTunes ---> Car Stereo

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in Genius Bar edited January 2014
My Brother has a pretty nice car stereo [Clarion?], he also has access to an eMac with iTunes four. His friends Burn him CDs on their PCs <not sure what they use> these CDs display the name of the songs on that CD on his stereo.. I think ID3 tags? not sure though. the CDs he and I burn in iTunes four do not display text on the stereo. how can I make this work on his stereo?

flick.

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  • Reply 1 of 13
    spartspart Posts: 2,060member
    Maybe his friends are burning him MP3 CDs? Rather than normal audio CDs...



    Just a wild guess, I don't actually know.
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  • Reply 2 of 13
    No, hIs stereo doesn't play MP3 Cds sadly.

    I don't know how to make a CD Keep its info after it goes from MP# "<--capital 3 " to AIFF or whater it does.

    flick.
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  • Reply 3 of 13
    thuh freakthuh freak Posts: 2,664member
    i always thought that cds didn't store that kind of information. afterall, when you insert it into a computer, it has to look it up on the internet, not sure what it bases off of (i thought maybe the individual song lengths, maybe not). i'd be interested to know just what these peecee people are doing to make it work. sounds kinda cool.
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  • Reply 4 of 13
    My Brother says he has purchased some new CDs from Sony Records and they have info on them as well.. I'm scratching my head..

    flick.
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  • Reply 5 of 13
    moliumoliu Posts: 42member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Flick Justice

    My Brother says he has purchased some new CDs from Sony Records and they have info on them as well.. I'm scratching my head..

    flick.




    It's something called CDTEXT. It's like embedded info on the cd. I'm not sure how to get it to work on macs. but I know that Nero burn for windows has that function.



    There's is other problem when you use a car mp3 player and itunes that I discovered. itunes use ID3 tag version 2.4 which is not supported by most car stero. So if you burn a mp3 disc with itunes, the info's not going to show up...
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  • Reply 6 of 13
    gordygordy Posts: 1,004member
    Toast now supports CDTEXT, but not iTunes.
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  • Reply 7 of 13
    spartspart Posts: 2,060member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by moliu

    There's is other problem when you use a car mp3 player and itunes that I discovered. itunes use ID3 tag version 2.4 which is not supported by most car stero. So if you burn a mp3 disc with itunes, the info's not going to show up...



    There is a conversion utility under the Advanced menu.
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  • Reply 8 of 13
    der kopfder kopf Posts: 2,275member
    CDTEXT has been around for years (I could swear I've seen it in action as early as '95 or '96, and I saw it in action on my old beige G3 with mac os 8.6 or so, and without a connection to the internet). I read that Toast supports this, provided that you have a writer that supports this as well, but I haven't actually seen one of these burned successfully (although I hardly burn any audio cds at all - and I use Jam in that process - and I don't really care all that much). It would be nice though.
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  • Reply 9 of 13
    moliumoliu Posts: 42member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Spart

    There is a conversion utility under the Advanced menu.



    I know you can convert it. But I can't convert everything. Some of my songs have asian characters. converting it would make all these asian characters change into "?". So I have to keep them in 2.4



    Since we are on this topic. I was just wondering what's the difference between all the versions. Is 2.4 actually better than the old ones? What are the benefits of the latest version?
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  • Reply 10 of 13
    moliumoliu Posts: 42member
    this really sucks now... since ipod 1.3 came out, i have been reripping my music to aac. i kinda thought about my car stereo for a while, but thought itunes might still be able to burn mp3 cds for me. well... i'm wrong. i can't make mp3 cds anymore because i've converted everything to aac. what am i going to do with my car stereo? sounds like i have to keep all hte songs in two copys. one for my ipod (aac) and one for my car (mp3)...
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  • Reply 11 of 13
    paulpaul Posts: 5,278member
    is there no way to convert whatever you want to burn to your car from aac to MP3 just for that specific purpose... sure you lose a bit of quality, but for the convenience isn't it worth it?



    also just convert the id3 tags you want to burn and then switch back...

    of course you could just export everything into Toast... im sure that could do all the converting for you automatically...
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  • Reply 12 of 13
    vandewaalsvandewaals Posts: 450member
    Could you just rip to AAC, then burn as mp3 CD? Kinda like how buring an Audio CD converts to AIFF as you burn? Like Paul said, you might lose a wee bit (lossy to lossy), but at least you don't have to rerip. I haven't tried burning as mp3 from my AAC collection, so I don't know how bad the sound is.
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  • Reply 13 of 13
    bilbil Posts: 6member
    Answers for a couple of questions being asked here:





    CD-TEXT - Info stored right on the disc. More and more CD players can read it, and few store-bought CDs will have the info. Contains an artist/album tag and track name tags.



    To create a CD-TEXT disc on a mac you will need Toast 5.2. Not sure if the "lite" version has it, I'm using Titanium. Go into Toast prefs and turn it on there. Start a new audio CD project, highlight the songs you want to burn in iTunes, drag them into your Toast project. MAKE SURE you give the project/disc a title, this will be the artist/album tag. Tadow!





    MP3 CDs - The goal is to create an ISO 9660 disc with ID3 version 1 tags. Here's how I make MP3 discs for use with my Alpine deck, which requires ID3 version 1.1 tags. First be aware that version 1 tags can contain much less info than version 2 tags. There are not as many fields, and the fields cannot contain as many characters. So you don't want to convert your MP3s to version 1 because song titles will get cut off etc.



    So what I do is make a folder for my new disc, and COPY files from my iTunes library into this new folder using the Finder. Keep all the albums organized by folders. Then I use MP3 Rage to convert the tags of these files to version 1.1. I'll also use the file renamer function to make sure the file names start with the track number so they get played in the right order, and also to shorten the file names to ISO 9660 specs. You may want to also shorten the names of your album folders to eight characters, e.g. Dark Side of the Moon > DARKSIDE. Number these folders if you want to them to play in a certain order. Finally, start an ISO 9660 project in toast, drop in the folders from your MP3 disc folder, and burn away. Then trash your folder when you're sure the disc is just how you want it.



    I prefer this method to using iTunes, because even without the tag issue, iTunes will just put all the files onto the root level of the disc, which stinks.



    Enjoy.
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