Another report claiming that Apple will go to Intel

smatanovic

<a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=77&e=1&cid=77&u=/mc/20021028/tc_mc/report__apple_will_go_intel_next_year"; target="_blank">http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=77&e=1&cid=77&u=/mc/20021028/tc_mc/report__apple_will_go_intel_next_year</a>;



I don't know much about Giga Information Group. Does anyone have insight as to credibility/reliability?



Thanks,

SM

telomar

Given the basis of the report is that people's desire for higher clock speeds is the major driving force of the computer market I wouln't have a great deal of faith in the report. In fact market research tells us one of the reasons for the slump in the computer industry is people really see no purpose in upgrading as often anymore. Where before people stuck on a 2 - 3 year upgrade cycle because they had to there is no longer that need.



Virtually every major company is coming to the realisation that single processors are at a point where they really don't need to get much more powerful and are looking much more closely at multi-core solutions. This report ignores that and that makes me question the reports credibility. Even if there were a good case for Apple to move it doesn't lie in the argument that their future potential processors will be too slow.



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709

I've heard the name before, but I think in conjuntion with a M$ report. I wouldn't give this info much though honestly. It's probably Bill's way of getting back at Apple for posting their 'Mac to PC Switch' fiasco on Apple's Hot News page. Lord, that ad made me smile all day.

powerpc

i wouldn't worry about it to much. I honestly don't ever see Apple switching to x86 any time soon.

fotns

[quote]Originally posted by PowerPC:

<strong>i wouldn't worry about it to much. I honestly don't ever see Apple switching to x86 any time soon.</strong><hr></blockquote>



Thanks for the expert opinion. <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />

commonsense

These analysts are some of the dumbest people on earth. And they really get to showcase their idiocy when it comes to covering Apple, because they really, really, REALLY don't GET it.



Start reading news stories about the latest moron report, and you'll notice you see many of the same names keep coming up. Toni DuBose (or something like that) is currently my favorite idiot talking head du jour. She has yet to say anything even in the shadow of insightful.



(yawn) Nothing to see here, folks.

powerpc

[quote]Originally posted by FotNS:

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Thanks for the expert opinion. <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>



anytime....



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amorph

Hey, it's Rob "Apple will be dead within 6 months - no, this time I mean it!" Enderle!



At least he's consistent...

zo

someone please oh please lock this thread

ast3r3x

sorry my smart a$$ comments had to be taken out



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trailmaster308

[quote]Originally posted by Telomar:

<strong>In fact market research tells us one of the reasons for the slump in the computer industry is people really see no purpose in upgrading as often anymore. Where before people stuck on a 2 - 3 year upgrade cycle because they had to there is no longer that need.

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However, I don't believe that anyone that works/owns a mac has this feeling. I can see where someone would not want to upgrade their 2ghz wintel box, but I definately feel everyone here does not believe we have reached that point with the mac yet. I mean, who has ever said "Man why is apple coming out with another/faster processor, they need to be concentrating on their software"...my .02



AMD -&gt; BIG maybe

Intel -&gt; BIG no no.

<img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />

moogs

This is so stupid. Why won't this concept just DIE the horrible death it deserves. Even most educated Winlots think it's ridiculous.



This story is more proof MacCentral is becoming less and less relavant. Why they would even report on such a ridiculous prediction - from a group that obviously has no data or information from Apple *whatsoever* to back up it's conclusions - is beyond me.



I guess they felt the need to propogate a dying but completely assinine theory, that has no sound economic or technical basis at all. Which makes it all the more humorous because Giga-dorks used "the economy" as their rationale. Morons. Maybe they need to go back to college and take a few econ classes.



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709

[wrong place, wrong time]



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formerlurker

I got exactly what Amorph was saying. I also have been following these highly paid and highly ignorant anal-ists for years, and Enderle is a very familliar name.



Rob Enderle has a long career in putting out "analyis" on Apple that is all at once negative, idiotic, and ignorant of industry (and especially Apple) basics.



If he ever said Apple was gonna do good, I'd sell all my stock short immediately.

formerlurker

I gotta agree, though, that MacCentral reporting on the "news" of Enderle's anal-spewing, only serves to make it worse, sending their readers off to increase hits to his drivel.

barto

I can't think of any reason Apple would stay with the PowerPC, can you?



Barto

othello

[quote]Originally posted by Barto:

<strong>I can't think of any reason Apple would stay with the PowerPC, can you?



Barto</strong><hr></blockquote>



IBM 970?



<img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />

jrc

[quote]Originally posted by smatanovic:

<strong><a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=77&e=1&cid=77&u=/mc/20021028/tc_mc/report__apple_will_go_intel_next_year"; target="_blank">http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=77&e=1&cid=77&u=/mc/20021028/tc_mc/report__apple_will_go_intel_next_year</a>;



I don't know much about Giga Information Group. Does anyone have insight as to credibility/reliability?



Thanks,

SM</strong><hr></blockquote>



I haven't read the replies, yet. But Giga is like Gartner. We use them in our IT shop, and I've used them myself. Basically, you have a question and ask them. They're like the Magic 8 ball of cover your ass decisions.

telomar

[quote]Originally posted by JRC:

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I haven't read the replies, yet. But Giga is like Gartner. We use them in our IT shop, and I've used them myself. Basically, you have a question and ask them. They're like the Magic 8 ball of cover your ass decisions.</strong><hr></blockquote>



Lets see one group of analysts on Intel's payroll and another on Microsoft's...I suppose you can cover yourself that way but that doesn't mean what they are saying is credible or reliable.



Given the quality of Giga's work I wouldn't be using them as my magic 8 ball either.



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krassy

i'll buy a new PowerMac next year ... even if it only has got 1.5Ghz dual G4 !!!



:-)

jcg

[quote]Originally posted by Barto:

<strong>I can't think of any reason Apple would stay with the PowerPC, can you?



Barto</strong><hr></blockquote>



Apple has to support the classic environment for at least one more major upgrade so that they do not piss off the Mac community. There are still some major programs which are not OS X, and while those might be updated next year some of them wont. Apple cannot support Classic on a X86 computer unless they move to emulation and that is not a viable soloution for the thousands of people who own 500 mhz iMacs that Apple will want to buy OS X 10.3, as well as those it wants to sell the next generation of iMac to. Those consumers will be less likely to purchase a new computer if they have to buy new versions of all their software as well. They will be in a better position to move to X86, or another processor by the end of next year, but with the IBM 970 the need to do so is less urgent than when Steve made his comments about having options earlier this year.