G3 "gobi" processors NOT g3's!!

geekmeatgeekmeat
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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
it has been widely rumoured that apple has received some "souped up" "g3's" from ibm.

it has also been stated that they will be used in apples ibook and imac computer lines.

i dont think these processors are g3's.

heres my reasoning......

didnt apple just say recently that there will be no g3 support in future versions of os x?

they did.

that being said,either these so-called "g3's" arent g3's,or they will be used in a non-computer product.

we dont know the architecture of these chips yet,yes there are people speculating but if these chips are going into computers they ARENT g3's,case closed!!!

the only thing im thinking off is perhaps...dare i say it..a PDA???

i dont know.

we will see but.....

the shroud of mystery is decending upon us and clouding everything.......

remember who told you first....



[ 12-31-2002: Message edited by: geekmeat ]</p>

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  • Reply 1 of 20
    ghost_user_nameghost_user_name Posts: 22,667member
    [quote]Originally posted by geekmeat:

    <strong>didnt apple just say recently that there will be no g3 support in future versions of os x?</strong><hr></blockquote>I never saw that. Where and when did you?
  • Reply 2 of 20
    nebagakidnebagakid Posts: 2,692member
    I dont think anyone said that, because a large user base of Mac OS X is probably using g3



    Old iBooks, iMacs, PowerBooks, PowerMacs as well as current iBooks and maybe newer ones....

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  • Reply 3 of 20
    blablablabla Posts: 185member
    [quote]<strong>it has also been stated that they will be used in apples ibook and imac computer lines.

    QB]<hr></blockquote>



    link?



    [quote][QB]

    didnt apple just say recently that there will be no g3 support in future versions of os x?

    they did.

    </strong><hr></blockquote>



    link?



    And btw.. Have you ever heard about a secret IBM desktop-cpu project? Like... a cpu almost ready to ship? I sure havent.
  • Reply 4 of 20
    maskermasker Posts: 451member
    Apple said that new products would boot in OS X only?? but not only on G4's...



    Are you confusing OS 9 with G3's?.. are you on crack?



    MSKR
  • Reply 5 of 20
    emaneman Posts: 7,204member
    Apple might be stupid, but not stupid enough to drop G3 support.
  • Reply 6 of 20
    rampancyrampancy Posts: 363member
    [quote]Originally posted by EmAn:

    <strong>Apple might be stupid, but not stupid enough to drop G3 support.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    It was rumoured here once, and I think I remember even reading about the possibility of a rumour of this on Think Secret. But I agree. The G3's a good chip. Apple wouldn't and shouldn't engage in such a foolish strategy.
  • Reply 7 of 20
    frawgzfrawgz Posts: 547member
    [quote]Originally posted by geekmeat:

    <strong>didnt apple just say recently that there will be no g3 support in future versions of os x?

    they did.

    </strong><hr></blockquote>



    No, they did not. They did, however, say that they are <a href="http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/0206/17.ibook.php"; target="_blank">happy</a> with the G3 in the iBook.
  • Reply 8 of 20
    @homenow@homenow Posts: 998member
    I'm sure that Apple is not planning on dropping support for the G3. They are still shipping them as of today in the iBook, and I believe that there are laws on the books that would make Apple support the G3 for some minimum number of years. I'm sure that the courts would back the consumers on this, and Apple would be opening themselves up for a lot of bad press and a number of lawsuits. I doubt that Steve and Co. are that stupid.
  • Reply 9 of 20
    concentricityconcentricity Posts: 434member
    [quote]Originally posted by geekmeat:

    <strong>

    didnt apple just say recently that there will be no g3 support in future versions of os x?





    [ 12-31-2002: Message edited by: geekmeat ]</strong><hr></blockquote>



    actually, i think i know how geekmeat got confused...



    there was an apple statement (i'll look for a link) regarding a lack of further development for support of older machines (ie, odd ball graphics cards etc) in OS X. it was something to the effect of "If it works now, it'll probably continue to work, but might not get updates for new technologies in OS X."



    I feel like it was either immediately preceding or following the announcement of Quartz Extreme, and the concerns of beige and B/W G3 owners, over what cards would work, etc.



    I'll look for a link, but regardless, this was NOT refering to a lack of support for G3 processors in future machines...
  • Reply 10 of 20
    rokrok Posts: 3,519member
    i think geekmeat is getting confused with the fact that pci graphics support is dwindling fast (if not gone altogether) in os x. if you don't have an agp-based machine (even the imac dv series -- the first to include firewire -- had 2x agp), you had better start looking to upgrade. they won't prevent you from using os x on those machines, but it will be up to the video chip maker (95% of those old chips are ATi) to forge support for 'em. not apple.
  • Reply 11 of 20
    stagflation stevestagflation steve Posts: 294member
    ATI told me that they are prepared to offer Mac OS X support for the legacy Rage chipsets, but their contract with Apple doesn't allow them to directly distribute drivers for OEM cards in Apple systems and Apple says they aren't prepared to distribute or support them so ATI isn't going to bother writing them
  • Reply 12 of 20
    tomjtomj Posts: 120member
    Yeah, since people have hacked the OS X installer so they could install it one 604 based machines, i think apple would drop support for that chip first. Also, the fact that for better or worse the G4 is just a G3 with altivec (more or less) apple would have to move far beyond the G4. As long as it works on a G4 it will work on a G3. Besides, it looks like we'll be using the G3 and G4 for another ten years or so. So maybe support will just be dropped when we all give up and build our own linux boxes.

    Whatever, i don't really care either way.
  • Reply 13 of 20
    emaneman Posts: 7,204member
    [quote]Originally posted by tomj:

    <strong>Yeah, since people have hacked the OS X installer so they could install it one 604 based machines, i think apple would drop support for that chip first. Also, the fact that for better or worse the G4 is just a G3 with altivec (more or less) apple would have to move far beyond the G4. As long as it works on a G4 it will work on a G3. Besides, it looks like we'll be using the G3 and G4 for another ten years or so. So maybe support will just be dropped when we all give up and build our own linux boxes.

    Whatever, i don't really care either way.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    How could Apple drop support for the 604 if it's not really supported?
  • Reply 14 of 20
    zapchudzapchud Posts: 844member
    [quote]Originally posted by EmAn:

    <strong>



    How could Apple drop support for the 604 if it's not really supported?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Since it is possible to install OS X on 604-based machines now, Apple could make it technically impossible to install OS X on a 604. Don't ask me how.
  • Reply 15 of 20
    chuckerchucker Posts: 5,089member
    [quote]it has been widely rumoured that apple has received some "souped up" "g3's" from ibm.<hr></blockquote>



    Yes, most likely for the next iBook revision - like another 100 or 200 MHz more.



    [quote]it has also been stated that they will be used in apples ibook and imac computer lines.<hr></blockquote>



    No, the iMac G3 will surely be discontinued soon. It's the product that received the least love from Apple ever since iMac G4 and eMac.



    iBook G3 is fine. Actually, it is great. Those who are waiting for an iBook G4 either haven't ever used an iBook G3 or are just fussing around for no reason.



    [quote]i dont think these processors are g3's.<hr></blockquote>



    What else would they be?



    [quote]didnt apple just say recently that there will be no g3 support in future versions of os x?

    they did.<hr></blockquote>



    They did not. They would be very stupid to do so. Only very recently - like 10 weeks ago or so - , they updated iBook, one of the best product lines from Apple, and its G3 only. You expect Apple to drop support for a product line two months after its introduction? What kind of negativ press would that raise?



    The rest of your post is just stupid, considering that you're basing it off a "fact" that's wrong.



    Also, this whole thread has nothing to do with "GOBI". For those who still don't get it:



    750fx "Sahara" will probably go up to 1 GHz in mid-2003.

    "Gobi" will go beyond that, in late 2003.

    In 2004, there will be Gobi's unnamed successor, with RapidIO support.
  • Reply 16 of 20
    stagflation stevestagflation steve Posts: 294member
    [quote]Originally posted by Chucker:

    <strong>750fx "Sahara" will probably go up to 1 GHz in mid-2003.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    It has been available at 1 Ghz for a very long time now, IBM is promising it at 1.4ghz next year, the new G3 will take off from there.
  • Reply 17 of 20
    ast3r3xast3r3x Posts: 5,012member
    [quote]Originally posted by tomj:

    <strong>...Besides, it looks like we'll be using the G3 and G4 for another ten years or so...</strong><hr></blockquote>



    wtf are you talking about? If apple is using these chips in 10 years i'll strip naked and run down wall street! there is no way, heck the G4 support sounds like it will dry up in 1-3years
  • Reply 18 of 20
    macsrgood4umacsrgood4u Posts: 3,007member
    [quote]wtf are you talking about? If apple is using these chips in 10 years i'll strip naked and run down wall street! there <hr></blockquote>



    Geez Wall Street is in bad enough straits as it is.
  • Reply 19 of 20
    chuckerchucker Posts: 5,089member
    [quote]Originally posted by Stagflation Steve:

    <strong>It has been available at 1 Ghz for a very long time now, IBM is promising it at 1.4ghz next year, the new G3 will take off from there.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    What's your source for a 1 GHz G3 being available since a very long time?
  • Reply 20 of 20
    chuckerchucker Posts: 5,089member
    [quote]Originally posted by r-0X#Zapchud:

    <strong>



    Since it is possible to install OS X on 604-based machines now, Apple could make it technically impossible to install OS X on a 604. Don't ask me how.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    By removing Old World drivers, I suppose.
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