Gun Control : For & Against
Personally, I would like to see a total ban on all guns in the hands of anyone other than the police or military.
That means NO guns in the hands of Joe Citizen.
If criminals are caught with guns..lock them away for 20 years in prison.
No If's and's or but's..
Too many are dying because of poor gun control.
And I am not just talking about the USA.
I think that AUS holds the record.
35 killed by one gunman in Tasmania..1996.
This gave rise to much tighter gun laws..and less gun deaths...have resulted..
Where do you stand ?
( he says lighting the wick and standing back with fingers in ears )
That means NO guns in the hands of Joe Citizen.
If criminals are caught with guns..lock them away for 20 years in prison.
No If's and's or but's..
Too many are dying because of poor gun control.
And I am not just talking about the USA.
I think that AUS holds the record.
35 killed by one gunman in Tasmania..1996.
This gave rise to much tighter gun laws..and less gun deaths...have resulted..
Where do you stand ?
( he says lighting the wick and standing back with fingers in ears )
Comments
Originally posted by LiquidR
Well maybe I'm bent, but I'd like to see a gun available to every man and woman over the age of 18, properly trained in safety and respect of course. But if we were remove guns from the citizenry than I don't think the police should have them either.
LiquidR ( no offence ) but that is scary..
Seriously, in my time as a psych I had to deal with some pretty interesting " individuals " who could technically qualify for a gun licence..but who would most likely have mistaken such as a " Licence to Kill "
Originally posted by LiquidR
Sorry, I'm tired, I meant to qualify better. Guns available to individuals, trained properly of course, lacking a criminal record and mental illnesses.
It's Ok LiquidR ,I thought that is what you meant..
But even so there are many sociopaths who otherwise appear & act "normal " that could easily obtain a licence...
It really isn't that obvious or clear cut..hence my idea that there should be a carpet ban..period..full stop
Originally posted by LiquidR
Well, that would be why I think cops shouldn't have them either if there were a carpet ban. Too many sociopaths make on the force in America. I don't know how it works elsewhere in the world, but with so many small jurisdictions in the US standards for screening police officers varies a lot.
It is scary to think the very officers meant to uphold the law aren't screened psychologically ( in depth )....for their suitability to possess a weapon.
i agree there should be extra measures put on guns. background checks should be more thorough. psychological checks should be done. these measures though would likely only have a placebo effect though. people can always steal guns. hopefully they can cut the numbers down some.
and like thuh freak before me i can now (thanks to the current administration) envision a time when we might need to take up arms against our own government.
Non-scary people should have guns, and should shoot all of the scary people.
The scary people aren't really people, they're demons, and it's good to destroy demons. Don't feel bad, just fire away.
Thank you very much.
Originally posted by LiquidR
Well maybe I'm bent, but I'd like to see a gun available to every man and woman over the age of 18, properly trained in safety and respect of course. But if we were remove guns from the citizenry than I don't think the police should have them either.
i think there is a place in georgia that does this.
Gun Control, hah. What we need is Bullet Control.
If every bullet cost $5000, criminals and wannabe-gangstas would think twice.
It'd be all like "man, I would pop a cap in yo ass... if I could only afford it...
you better hope I can't get me no bullets on layaway."
Originally posted by kneelbeforezod
I don't see why anyone outside of the military or law enforcement can justify having access to guns that are solely designed for killing human beings.
fear of the government. the reason the amendment was put in the constitution.
Originally posted by thuh Freak
fear of the government. the reason the amendment was put in the constitution.
That's why I've always struggled with the issue. I wouldn't stand for a government that has all the guns, so they have to stay legal in my book. Hell, it's scary enough that the police and military are mostly republican already.
I do believe that a state can control what type of weapons are sold though. That is, you shouldn't be able to buy a tank, or an RPG, or a backyard nuke. Fully automatic weapons, and semi-auto with an easy switch to full aren't necessary.
I'm also not as afraid of a registry as some others. I know the old fear was that if a list existed, they could be rounded up more easily. Logistically that would be a nightmare in a population so large.
Originally posted by thuh Freak
fear of the government. the reason the amendment was put in the constitution.
Fear of the British government though, no? I don't see a need for it any more, and I certainly don't see an armed population being much of a deterrant to a government that controls a modern army...
perhaps the language was settled on to assuage both points of view.
Originally posted by kneelbeforezod
I certainly don't see an armed population being much of a deterrant to a government that controls a modern army...
ahem, the south (during the american civil war). i dont agree with their reasons for fighting, but i respect their right to have done so. they disagreed with the government, created a well formed militia, and fought the army.
edit: i nearly forgot about the american revolution. local americans fought against one of the largest militaries in the world. although they didn't exactly whoop them, they hurt them enough to convince them of their seriousness, and they succeeded.
i hope that it wont ever be necessary, but i think we need to keep the law on the books incase it happens. there may come a time when the country becomes uninhabitable, and maybe only a militia can cure it. clearly the u.s. army could destroy just about any uprising it wanted to; but in creating that uprising the militia evokes notice and shows all the world citizens what their grievances are. then the government has to rethink whatever they were doing wrong.
Originally posted by kneelbeforezod
Fear of the British government though, no? I don't see a need for it any more, and I certainly don't see an armed population being much of a deterrant to a government that controls a modern army...
Guerrilla campaigns notwithstanding *cough* Vietnam, Iraq *cough*
not enough to stop a modern army, but daily sniping accretes into a deterrent if public support wanes