Article on 64-bit processors

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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
Here is an article regarding 64-bit processors:



<a href="http://www.realworldtech.com/page.cfm?AID=RWT012603224711"; target="_blank">RealWorld Tech 64-bit Landscape</a>



Some interesting items in there. Basically, the 970 won't be any world beaters, it would appear; however, I can't wait to get ahold of one!



Deerfield fp numbers are quoted as being 2x that of the 970 which if holds up to be true after shipping would be saddening.



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  • Reply 1 of 6
    producerproducer Posts: 283member
    beat me



    Anyway when comparing the 970 to Deerfield you have to take into consideration price... perhaps 2 970's will equal the price of one Deerfield... anyone know of predicted prices on Deerfield?
  • Reply 2 of 6
    vinney57vinney57 Posts: 1,162member
    You won't be seeing Deerfield on the desktop for some time as it doesn't run 86x (32bit) apps. The transition to 64bit in home PC land will be quite difficult; if it happens at all. Dual 970's with Altivec should be competitive with the Pentiums of the time. The 970 should also compete very well with Banias in laptops.
  • Reply 3 of 6
    nevynnevyn Posts: 360member
    Yeah, look at the die size comparisons. Great article, thanks!
  • Reply 4 of 6
    rickagrickag Posts: 1,626member
    [quote]Originally posted by vinney57:

    <strong>You won't be seeing Deerfield on the desktop for some time as it doesn't run 86x (32bit) apps. The transition to 64bit in home PC land will be quite difficult; if it happens at all. Dual 970's with Altivec should be competitive with the Pentiums of the time. The 970 should also compete very well with Banias in laptops.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    While I agree with you, some people don't.



    go to <a href="http://endian.net/index.asp"; target="_blank">http://endian.net/index.asp</a>;



    Do a search for Deerfield and near the top you will see the quote" Intel Deerfield First consumer IA-64 processor for mid-range servers and workstations."



    Let's see, Intel is touting a cpu that uses 100 watts max @ 1.5GHz with a die size of 266 mm&lt;2, and 230 MILLION transitors to the 970.



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  • Reply 5 of 6
    algolalgol Posts: 833member
    intel is pathetic
  • Reply 6 of 6
    programmerprogrammer Posts: 3,458member
    [quote]Originally posted by rickag:

    <strong>Let's see, Intel is touting a cpu that uses 100 watts max @ 1.5GHz with a die size of 266 mm&lt;2, and 230 MILLION transitors to the 970.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    What's interesting about this is that when IBM applies that process technology and die size to the 970 the result will be at least a 2 GHz quad-core processor (~50 million transistors x 4 + ~30 million transistors of cache?). Hmmm...





    I thought the discussion of how the POWER4 was designed using automated techniques was interesting. To me this says two things:



    - IBM has plenty of room to, if need be, "hand tune" their designs once the first version is on the market. They can also more easily refine their designs, and they are probably continuously improving their automated tools. This reminds me of the code in assembler vs code in C/C++ arguments that used to take place. Guess which won?



    - IBM can build new designs more quickly and cheaply, taking faster advantage of those new process technologies they are so good at. Smaller customers can justify specialized chips, and system-on-a-chip designs become more practical.
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