more G4 iBook rumors

in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
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i guess the iBook will go G4 if we keep guessing we have to be right someday...i can see the iBook going G4 when the new PB go into second rev.....definetly if the PB ever get the 970...but i don't see that anytime soon....g


  • Reply 1 of 17
    The new 12" PowerBook is exactly what the iBook G4 would have been, if it was coming out anytime soon. However, the new PowerBook makes it clear that we're going to be waiting a while longer (2 revisions or so) for any sort of G4 iBook.

    This is a list of features that the 17" PowerBook has that the 12" does not:

    1 - 1 GHz G4

    2 - 167 MHz Bus

    3 - L3 Cache

    4 - GeForce 440

    5 - Firewire 800

    6 - Backlit Keyboard

    7 - DVI Out

    In my opinion, what Apple should have done is include every single one of those features in the 12" PowerBook. I don't know if they decided against it for heat issues, space issues, pricing issues, or a combination of all three.

    However, if they HAD included all those features, then they could have released the PowerBook 12" and iBook G4 simultanously, and made everyone happy at once.

    The iBook G4 would have been exactly what the 12" PowerBook is now, which we all agree is a stunning the familiar Ice casing instead of Aluminum. It would have left the current iBook in the dust, and been another Apple revolution.

    The 12" PowerBook would have been a duplicate of the 17" machine in every way, with the exception of screen size. The power users then only need to decide how big they want their PowerBook to be, and not give up features by choosing the 12" over the 17".

    With the specs as shown above, the 12" iBook and PowerBooks would not have "cannibalized" each other, and so many people are quick to suggest a G4 iBook might do. The extra 7 features of the PowerBook would be indispensible to some, and worth an extra $500-$800 in price, depending on how Apple priced the units.

    Right now though, I am guessing it was completely a price based decision for Apple to "dumb down" the 12" PowerBook, so to speak. I am not sure they could have figured out a way to make the 12" PowerBook cheap enough to be a 12" iBook G4 (under $1500), nor could they add the additional 7 features to the 12" PowerBook and keep it at a maximum cost of $2300. So they had to settle.

    But as component costs go down, expect the first revision of the iBook G4 to be remarkably close to what we see in the PowerBook 12" right now.

    -- Ensoniq
  • Reply 2 of 17
    I bet it had more to do with heat (and space) than cost.
  • Reply 3 of 17
    lucaluca Posts: 3,833member
    Also, they might not have wanted the 12" (which is less costly than the 15") to look better than the 15".
  • Reply 4 of 17
    imacfanimacfan Posts: 444member
    Unfortunately, I think that a G4 iBook is years away, with the current offerings becoming akin to the current G3 iMac. The sales would, however be stronger than the desktop, as it would still be the ideal portable for those who just want to do light work on the move.

    The next incarnation of the 15" PB should offer pros all the advantages of the 17" with a footprint not that much bigger than the 12"

  • Reply 5 of 17
    stunnedstunned Posts: 1,096member
    If the iBooks go G4, I hope the prices would not leap too. The iBooks are attractive now becos of their competitive prices. Any upward increase in prices will affect sales drastically as consumers will go for the 12" PB instead.
  • Reply 6 of 17
    satchmosatchmo Posts: 2,699member
    I think it has to do with the fact that they know a 15" will soon be updated and will need to slot it in between the 12 and 17 inch models.

    Although every feature of the 17" will probably be included in the 15". After all, the 15" will be their biggest seller and their cash cow.
  • Reply 7 of 17
    muahmuah Posts: 165member
    I think it is hard to say "This will be the year of the portable for Apple" and then leave the iBook at a G3. Not that the G3 isn't a perfectly good processor in it's own right, but it was 1999 when they released the G4. That was almost 4 years ago. PC people were using Pentium 2's at the time.
  • Reply 8 of 17
    G4 iBook would be nice for some...

    But I'm still waiting for a sub 700$ ibook..
  • Reply 9 of 17
    thegeldingthegelding Posts: 3,230member
    iBook classic---mostly schools and such---

    G3 700 cd-rw....749 (699 edu)

    G3 800 combo....899 (849 edu)

    iBook G4

    G4 800 cd-rw...999

    G4 867 combo...1199

    G4 14" 867 combo....1399


    they will save the superdrive for PB unless they do a special edition G4 iBook

    but that is a Al book anyway....

    [ 02-03-2003: Message edited by: thegelding ]</p>
  • Reply 10 of 17
    chuckerchucker Posts: 5,089member
    muah: Do you or did you own a G3 iBook? Do you know how great it is for its price? I don't think so.
  • Reply 11 of 17
    I have a feeling they are going to do a lot in marketing/pricing. By splitting the g4 g3 pricepoints down considerably. Look for in the future the consumer versions all of them to be 1500 less, and all pro equipment 1500 plus. I think that applies with the imacs too. Look for a more robust product offering to, I hope they split the powermac line into a 970 upper 3000$' and a g4 line 1200$-2000$
  • Reply 12 of 17
    The iBook is for seventh graders in Maine and Quebec. They don't need a G4. Pr0n works well enough on a G3.

    Want a G4 in that form factor? My a 12" Booklette
  • Reply 13 of 17
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  • Reply 14 of 17
    emaneman Posts: 7,204member
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  • Reply 15 of 17
    overhopeoverhope Posts: 1,123member
    I don't get it: I was in a store yesterday drooling over a 12" Powerbook, then had a look at the 12" iBook round the corner. Colour aside, these things look damn-near identical (well, and the nicer keyboard).

    It seems to me that Stevo is saying, "Y'all want a G4 laptop in a smaller form-factor? Here y'go, but I'm not devaluing the differentiation between the "pro" Powerbook line and the "consumer" iBooks. You want Altivec, you gotta pay..."

    Just as soon as I've found the necessary funds, I'm getting a 12" Powerbook.
  • Reply 16 of 17
    dfilerdfiler Posts: 3,420member
    I don't see the point in a G4 iBook.

    If apple released a cheap G4 iBook, why would anyone buy the 12" powerbook? If they released a not-so-cheap G4 iBook, there wouldn't be any difference between it and the current 12" powerbook.

    Heheh... another great idea, put the powerbook's screen on an arm and rearange the insides so that it fits in a circular base. It would sell as the iPowerbook.

    Or maybe, they could put a G3 in the 12" powerbook and release G3 powerbooks exactly like the iBook.

    Does anyone else find the idea of G4 iBooks completely ridiculous? Well, maybe not ridiculous. Apple could release a renamed mini-powerbook with translucent white plastic keys reminiscent of the iBook. Then we would merely be discussing the name of a laptop and the color of its keyboard.
  • Reply 17 of 17
    I don't think there should be G4 iBooks until ALL of the Power Books are upgraded to a G5 (including the 12"). They don't need to make picking a notebook computer anymore confusing that it already is. The G3 is still a great little processor and should be used in iBooks at 1Ghz and beyond until it's time to upgrade to a G4. They could possibly have Altivec G3 processors, no?
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