How much speed increase from Panther I should expect

leonisleonis
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in macOS edited January 2014
Sigh....my brother keeps complaining at me how slow his PowerMac (533 DA G4) is when doing web surfing....



Awhile ago I read an artice somewhere on the net that the hardware isn't a very huge issue, it's the OS that is the bottleneck.



Don't know if it's true or not.....



I really do expect many operations will be faster than in Jaguar....but by how much?



Any idea?

Comments

  • Reply 1 of 9
    dmband0026dmband0026 Posts: 2,345member
    25% It's supposed to be a great jump in speed. But don't take it from me, find someone who has actually used it already. I know that I'm exited though!
  • Reply 2 of 9
    jdradenjdraden Posts: 89member
    Installed on an 800MHz iBook w/640Mb memory. I do not see a speed increase from Jaguar. It feels a little sticky, in fact.. and it was a clean install!
  • Reply 3 of 9
    ti fighterti fighter Posts: 863member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Leonis

    Sigh....my brother keeps complaining at me how slow his PowerMac (533 DA G4) is when doing web surfing....



    Awhile ago I read an artice somewhere on the net that the hardware isn't a very huge issue, it's the OS that is the bottleneck.



    well hardware can help, on a G5 dual with 2 gig o ram (panther) safari flys, and resizes like a dream
  • Reply 4 of 9
    c-bearc-bear Posts: 111member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Leonis

    Awhile ago I read an artice somewhere on the net that the hardware isn't a very huge issue, it's the OS that is the bottleneck.



    While OSs can be a bottleneck, I believe that specific to the G4, the front side bus is considered the common culprit.



    Too, how much RAM is your brother using? More RAM, cliche that it is, can really make a difference.
  • Reply 5 of 9
    wjmoorewjmoore Posts: 210member
    Don't expect any increase, that way you won't dissapointed if it doesn't live up to your expectations and you will also be pleasently surprised if you do see a speed-up. At least that's my philosophy.
  • Reply 6 of 9
    ghost_user_nameghost_user_name Posts: 22,667member
    None.



    That way you'll be pleasantly surprised no matter has much or little it improves. Never listen to anyone who says it's "twice as fast" or something equally ridiculous. Remember how widely varied the reports of increased speed was with 10.2? Subjective human perceptions can't be trusted!



    Gah! Well, GMTA WJMoore.
  • Reply 7 of 9
    leonisleonis Posts: 3,427member
    I think 640MB RAM on his machine is more than enough



    Anyway....I just found out the sites that he said that are slow.....mostly are Japanese porn sites......I tried them on my SlowSilver?....oh God....these sites are sloooooow even on my machine



    But seriously.....PC really are faster on web surfing in general......my (passed away) 1GHz Celeron PC killed my Dual GHz SlowSilver? when it comes to web.....don't know what's wrong
  • Reply 8 of 9
    lucaluca Posts: 3,833member
    Here is a comparison of my eMac running 10.2.8 and 10.3. It went from 87 to 100, with increases primarily in lock contention, memory allocation, Quartz text rendering, and the user interface test.



    I think you'll see the largest increase in actual everyday use from the faster text and UI rendering. I can definitely say that my eMac feels significantly faster after installing Panther, and it can only get faster as Apple finishes it up and releases updates.
  • Reply 9 of 9
    costiquecostique Posts: 1,084member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Luca Rescigno

    It went from 87 to 100, with increases primarily in lock contention, memory allocation, Quartz text rendering, and the user interface test.



    If you think about it, things are not so bad. Thread and lock contention tests show how fast multithreading is. They may also indirectly indicate some improvement on the multiprocessing front, since the kernel switches CPU(s) from one task to another many times per second, and the faster the switching, the less CPU cycles are wasted. Memory allocation is one of the most common operations in any OS and in any app. Text rendering and display speed also affects all apps because there is text in any app's interface.



    This is really good because Apple have optimized system-wide functions, not just one or two app-specific ones.
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