iTunes for Windows good for KaZaa heads?

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in iPod + iTunes + AppleTV edited January 2014
It just hit me that with everyone changing to iTunes, they'll definitely be fixing their ID3 tags for better organization of their music. D/L'ers can probably look forward to seeing more tracks with the correct artist/allbum/song tags, making it much easier to find what they're looking for. Also, there may be a lot more people encoding in AAC when they rip from CD, which means better quality music.

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  • Reply 1 of 11
    dfilerdfiler Posts: 3,420member
    Definitely.



    I went so far as to delete all my untagged music after switching to itunes 1.0. (about 5% of library) Having zero unlabeled songs allows your jukebox experience to be completely about the music. It is almost surprising how winAmp users routinely perform exhaustive searches when unsure whether they have a particular song. It seems like this is what characterizes the winamp amd wmp experience.
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  • Reply 2 of 11
    I'm still in awe over how poor the music management systems on the Windows side were until iTunes came along. I searched long and hard for an music player solution for my fiancee that wouldn't just frustrate her. I found absolutely nothing, so she had about 10 songs on her HD that she listened to and would just listen to CD's through her computer while she worked. As SOON as iTunes came along, she was busy transferring our music to her computer. She also got familiar with the concept of tagging her music so that she could find it more easily. Now everything is tagged the way she likes it and she is actually listening to the music on her computer.



    That said, I think that it'll make the entire experience of using P2P networks that much better (somewhat ironically, I might add). Once the dodo-heads figure out how to use iTunes to tag their songs PROPERLY, things will be that much better.
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  • Reply 3 of 11
    I was going to start a new thread about this but it fits in with that last post.



    Basically, I have just finished reading the forums over at www.ipoding.com and www.ipodlounge.com and I am just *amazed* at what a bunch of whining bitches PC users are.



    Bear in mind these are people who already have iPods, so they have perfectly good id3 tags or they wouldn't be able to access the tunes on their iPods.



    But they cannot wrap their heads around the concept of letting iTunes managed their music. One guy actually submitted a complaint to Apple because he didn't like the way it organized his mp3s.



    Firstly, you can tell iTunes not to do this, but the clincher is:



    in iTunes: Artist Name > Album Name > 00 Track Name.mp3

    His way: Artist Name > Album Name > 000 - Track Name.mp3



    He was complaining because he was missing a totally spurious third digit (CDs can only have 99 tracks) and a hyphen. I thought some of the stuff the Mac-heads in this forum thought up to piss and moan about was stupid, but that takes the cake.
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  • Reply 4 of 11
    aquaticaquatic Posts: 5,602member
    I definitely hope Windoze people start to ditch MP3 for MP4!
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  • Reply 5 of 11
    der kopfder kopf Posts: 2,275member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by stupider...likeafox

    But they cannot wrap their heads around the concept of letting iTunes managed their music.



    I can't either. And I have never owned a PC. With about 120 GB of music in my library, and a 20 GB HD in my computer, I prefer iTunes to leave my files alone. But that's where the option to turn of that management comes in handy, I guess.
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  • Reply 6 of 11
    Quote:

    Originally posted by der Kopf

    about 120 GB of music in my library, and a 20 GB HD in my computer, I prefer iTunes to leave my files alone.



    That's a good reason, but it doesn't apply to most people, and I wonder if you'd feel the same if your entire collection fitted easily on your main drive. Especially as your missing out on ease-of-use features like deleting files from within iTunes or editing id3 tags and the changes being reflected in your files.



    So the question is whether you understand it, and yet have rejected it for valid reasons, or whether you just don't 'get' it and think that apps just shouldn't be moving your files around..
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  • Reply 7 of 11
    der kopfder kopf Posts: 2,275member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by stupider...likeafox

    So the question is whether you understand it, and yet have rejected it for valid reasons, or whether you just don't 'get' it and think that apps just shouldn't be moving your files around..







    I'm wondering if I should feel insulted.
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  • Reply 8 of 11
    lucaluca Posts: 3,833member
    I talked to a number of PC users yesterday - most are big Kazaa downloaders and most use Winamp, Musicmatch or Windows Media Player. The one feature that was suggested that isn't present in iTunes was a queue feature. Right now iTunes isn't actually a "jukebox" application, it's just a music player. What this guy told me is that he liked to have parties where he just left Musicmatch open on his computer and he let people pick what song they want on a first come, first serve basis. They go up to his computer and pick a song and when it hits the front of the line, it plays. I never thought of this feature for iTunes but it's a good one and I'd like it to be implemented.



    This same guy was still somewhat impressed with iTunes' music management, and he was very impressed with the store. He would suggest songs he liked and I'd look them up and add them to my shopping cart so I could listen to the previews and determine which I wanted to buy. He was disappointed that the previews were only 30 seconds, probably because he wanted to keep listening to the song, but he thought it was a great idea to have downloadable songs available instantly for $1 apiece. I bought one that I liked and played it for him on the spot just to show how easy it is. I think I might have a possible iTunes convert
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  • Reply 9 of 11
    dmband0026dmband0026 Posts: 2,345member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Luca Rescigno

    They go up to his computer and pick a song and when it hits the front of the line, it plays. I never thought of this feature for iTunes but it's a good one and I'd like it to be implemented.



    Create a playlist, have people drag the songs in that they want. Easy as that.



    Quote:



    He was disappointed that the previews were only 30 seconds, probably because he wanted to keep listening to the song, but he thought it was a great idea to have downloadable songs available instantly for $1 apiece.




    Thats the point, you listen to 30 seconds and want more. At which point you spend your $.99 and get yourself the whole song. Instant satisfaction. That is why they have the preview. Good idea aint it?



    Quote:



    I think I might have a possible iTunes convert





    Nice, keep workin. Someday we'll tear the world away from the horror that is a PeeCee.
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  • Reply 10 of 11
    lucaluca Posts: 3,833member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by DMBand0026

    Create a playlist, have people drag the songs in that they want. Easy as that.



    Yeah, that seems to work fine. I thought of that but I assumed it worked the way my iPod does - when you add to an on-the-go playlist, you have to actually start the playlist over again in order for the changes to take effect. But in iTunes, you can add songs to a playlist that is already playing and it'll play them once it reaches them just fine.



    Quote:

    Originally posted by DMBand0026

    Thats the point, you listen to 30 seconds and want more. At which point you spend your $.99 and get yourself the whole song. Instant satisfaction. That is why they have the preview. Good idea aint it?



    Exactly, it got me to buy a number of the songs! Also, the guy I was talking to was fairly drunk at the time. He kept singing along after the preview ended. I'm not asking for longer previews - the thirty seconds are fine - I was just noting his reaction.



    Quote:

    Originally posted by DMBand0026

    Nice, keep workin. Someday we'll tear the world away from the horror that is a PeeCee.



    Well, this guy was a MS Certified Engineer, or maybe he was training to be one... he already knew a bit about OS X because he says part of studying to be an MSCE is knowing the competition. He didn't really have many negative things to say about the Mac. Another one of my friends who was there took one look at Exposé and fast user switching and declared that he was totally rethinking his views on the Mac and he'd even consider buying one of his own.



    So, Panther is eye catching and it has the ability to convert Windows users! Now it's time for pscates to come in and say how they should actually show Exposé and stuff on a TV ad It would work as long as they don't go overboard with showing the computer working - that's not really very fun or interesting unless it's really quick and simple.
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  • Reply 11 of 11
    idaveidave Posts: 1,283member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by der Kopf

    I'm wondering if I should feel insulted.



    No, not at all, likeafox had a legitimate question.



    Some folks don't seem to realize how amazing iTunes is at organizing music. Perhaps you do, or maybe you don't. The automatic organization does no harm to your files, it just neatly organizes them in folders, by artist, album, etc. Of course the id tags need to be in place; something some people think is too much trouble to deal with.
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