Archive and Install for Panther question...

tacojohntacojohn
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in macOS edited January 2014
I have a iBook 500 that I'm planning on installing Panther tonight on. I was backing up everything 'cause I was going to do a clean install.



I then realized that they do have the "Archive and Install" feature. How much free space does this require? I only have 2.8 gigs free (thats with Jag installed). Will panther let me install the new OS and then move my home directory over? I would just delete all of Jag's system folders and stuff?



If anyone could explain these questions that would be great!



Thanks!

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  • Reply 1 of 5
    gabidgabid Posts: 477member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by tacojohn

    I have a iBook 500 that I'm planning on installing Panther tonight on. I was backing up everything 'cause I was going to do a clean install.



    I then realized that they do have the "Archive and Install" feature. How much free space does this require? I only have 2.8 gigs free (thats with Jag installed). Will panther let me install the new OS and then move my home directory over? I would just delete all of Jag's system folders and stuff?



    If anyone could explain these questions that would be great!



    Thanks!



    On my G5 I think the Archive & Install required 3 gigs. You need more space than just an update since it loads the new system then keep a bunch of your old files for you to go through after installation. Yes you can bin most of them, but you need the space for everything at the outset. This method allows you to svae all of your user info, passwords in Keychain, etc...



    And speaking of Archive & Install, is there any harm in doing it mutiple times? As I mentioned in another thread when I tried this method with Panther after it was "done" and I restarted it didn't ask for disc 2 as it should ahve but brough me back to the start of the installation, so I began anew, thus giving myself Jaguar and a Panther archive. Anyhow, I'm contemplating doing this AGAIN since I don't know if I want to keep a bunch of the stuff I installed (like foreign fonts), but could this start to be hard on my system?
  • Reply 2 of 5
    neilwneilw Posts: 77member
    I suspect you can make it with 2.8gigs, but it's gonna be close and I'd be scared to try. I omitted a lot of stuff from my install (especially all the international versions and fonts) and was able to get it down somewhat below 3gigs, though I included X11 and a couple of other things that contributed to the size.



    So, if you really strip it all down, you've got a shot, but it's still risky because you really don't want to run out of disk.
  • Reply 3 of 5
    markesitomarkesito Posts: 2member
    I have an important question.



    As I can not make Panther work well installed on an external Firewire HD, I plan to give it a try on my Powerbook directly.



    I would like too know if I make an "Archive and Install" and I don't get Panther working properly, can I revert Jaguar from the archive without losing anything?
  • Reply 4 of 5
    musicaltonemusicaltone Posts: 189member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by markesito

    I have an important question.



    As I can not make Panther work well installed on an external Firewire HD, I plan to give it a try on my Powerbook directly.



    I would like too know if I make an "Archive and Install" and I don't get Panther working properly, can I revert Jaguar from the archive without losing anything?



    No. It just archives some old data, not the OS.
  • Reply 5 of 5
    kcmackcmac Posts: 1,051member
    I wouldnt' risk it with that much free space unless you can clear off even more. OS X gets hazardous when you get around 1 gig or less free space which you could run into depending on how big your home folder is.



    Definitely back up everything no matter what you do.



    I did a simple upgrade on 2 machines with absolutely no problems. I don't use hacks/haxies and have a pretty clean environment. (G3 and G4).



    Repair permissions. Throw away logs, caches. Use something like MacJanitor or Cocktail to clean up.



    Perform fsck -y.



    Restart.



    Upgrade or clean install.



    Good luck. Panther is awesome.
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