I must be missing something obvious here...

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brbr
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in macOS edited January 2014
In 10.2.8, my mail.app seems to be quite synchronized with my .mac webmail...and I don't like it. If I delete a message via webmail, it deletes it in my mail.app mailbox...even though I have the option "keep copies of all messages and attachments" selected.



I discovered this oddity quite tragically. I got a message that my mailbox was full. I double checked that the "keep copies of all messages and attachments" was selected and then went into webmail and deleted everything. I re-opened mail.app and oops all my messages were gone. WTF!?

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  • Reply 1 of 13
    stupider...likeafoxstupider...likeafox Posts: 1,618member
    It shouldn't delete items for a week/until you ask it to empty your trash. You should check that first if you've lost something important.
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  • Reply 2 of 13
    stupider...likeafoxstupider...likeafox Posts: 1,618member
    So, yes, that's how IMAP mail works. If you want permanent storage without clogging up your .mac allowance you should create an offline folder on your mac and use it to archive old er mail.
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  • Reply 3 of 13
    brbr Posts: 8,395member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by stupider...likeafox

    So, yes, that's how IMAP mail works. If you want permanent storage without clogging up your .mac allowance you should create an offline folder on your mac and use it to archive old er mail.



    Hrmmph. Thought it was POP. Any way I can make my .mac account a POP mail account?
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  • Reply 4 of 13
    brbr Posts: 8,395member
    Hrmph...figured it out. Stupid ass mail setup assistant made it IMAP by default. That's so retarded.
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  • Reply 5 of 13
    mr. memr. me Posts: 3,221member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by BR

    Hrmph...figured it out. Stupid ass mail setup assistant made it IMAP by default. That's so retarded.



    Whenever I don't understand the default, I don't use the default.
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  • Reply 6 of 13
    dmband0026dmband0026 Posts: 2,345member
    Back up all your e mails (at least the important ones) on another folder. They don't take up a lot of space, it's worth it.
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  • Reply 7 of 13
    kickahakickaha Posts: 8,760member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by BR

    Hrmph...figured it out. Stupid ass mail setup assistant made it IMAP by default. That's so retarded.



    I believe .Mac is IMAP, period. If they offer a *dynamic* choice between POP and IMAP, they're the first email provider I've heard of to do so.
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  • Reply 8 of 13
    brbr Posts: 8,395member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Kickaha

    I believe .Mac is IMAP, period. If they offer a *dynamic* choice between POP and IMAP, they're the first email provider I've heard of to do so.



    Well I set up a new account in mail.app as a POP account and it worked. I can delete messages through webmail and they stay in mail.app.
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  • Reply 9 of 13
    th0rth0r Posts: 78member
    Quote:

    I believe .Mac is IMAP, period. If they offer a *dynamic* choice between POP and IMAP, they're the first email provider I've heard of to do so.



    You have always been able to use the POP protocol with .mac, even though the default is IMAP.



    (not sure what you mean by *dynamic*)
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  • Reply 10 of 13
    clayton magnetclayton magnet Posts: 110member
    You can do it, it's just that you have to create another account with identical settings to your default account, then dump the old one. Pain in the ass, really. A choice when setting it up initially, or even to change it at any time, would be nice.
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  • Reply 11 of 13
    kickahakickaha Posts: 8,760member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Th0r

    You have always been able to use the POP protocol with .mac, even though the default is IMAP.



    (not sure what you mean by *dynamic*)



    Normally you are given *either* a POP account *or* an IMAP account by your ISP. You don't have a choice. With .Mac, and some others, you do. Keen.



    By dynamic I meant "once you set up your account to be of one type, you can switch it to the other". Haven't heard of that before. Usually once you select one type, that's the type you get, period.
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  • Reply 12 of 13
    big macbig mac Posts: 480member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Kickaha

    I believe .Mac is IMAP, period. If they offer a *dynamic* choice between POP and IMAP, they're the first email provider I've heard of to do so.



    Nope, Kickaha, it's both. I thought all servers reverted to POP if IMAP wasn't being used. In any case, I use Mail (with IMAP) on my iBook to check my @mac.com mail on occasion, and then on my 8600 I use Outlook Express and POP to download from the very same account. And all things considered, even though IMAP is technically superior, I still prefer POP. I like being in control of my mail.
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  • Reply 13 of 13
    kickahakickaha Posts: 8,760member
    And I like knowing it's backed up somewhere remotely.



    Good thing they offer both.
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