I want to enter HTML text into an email I'm composing - I type a word such as LA Rams, and then link it to the Ram's webpage. I can't see how to do this in Mail. Any help?
As a matter of principle, I have any e-mail client I use set to ignore HTML. In today's world of spam and online attacks, it's too risky to do otherwise. If you want to make a link, do what I do: put it in parenthesis after the text.
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As a matter of principle, I have any e-mail client I use set to ignore HTML. In today's world of spam and online attacks, it's too risky to do otherwise. If you want to make a link, do what I do: put it in parenthesis after the text.
coming from someone who used to design HTML email for a living, i just want to say that it's a bunch of idiot spam-purveyors (or people just ignorant of their recipients... or the recipients being ignorant of what they can and cannot read, or what they have even signed up for) bringing down the entire medium of html in email. basically, everyone is equating html with spam, when plain text email can be spam just as easily (have you TRIED sifting through a newsgroup lately??? ACK!!)... it's just easier for the porn-mongers to hit you in the face immediately with the html versions rather than the "check out these hot chicks at http://........"
i can't stand it when, like the first link you posted, someone just chalks up html emails as a bunch of "fancy formatting." it's all a matter of who you give the good tools to. it is possible (though not recommended) to make something communicate well and look good in microsoft word. i hate to say it, because microsoft makes it about as easy to do so as mousing with your left foot... problem is, every friggin' idiot constructs such atrocities with it because it's on every computer and fools people into thinking what they're making in powerpoint will impress, rather than nauseate. and even microsoft has admitted that including html constructing capabilities in the standard outlook install may not have been their best idea. sometimes, you need to smile, and gently pull the power tools away from the stupid children and give them something soft, plush, and non-damaging to play with.
or how he steadfastly asserts that email was designed for plain text and simple communications... i have news for him, ask tim berners-lee, and that physicist will tell you the exact same thing. my how things change, and not necessarily for the worse.
plus, some of the file-serving checking (when images are loaded) done by pro-spammers just kills the lot of us who are just using it to get the word out for our goods and/or services in a good way. i'm as techno-geeky and gadget-happy as the next guy my age, but plain text e-mails, regardless of content, bore me to tears when they're just talking about news or products. html allows for better info design, for those willing to do it right (which, admittedly, is rare).
i liken it to how mp3 as a format and p2p as a delivery system were, for a while, on trial for the sins of what people were DOING with them. heck, p2p is still being attributed to illegal music sharing first and foremost. or how banner ads were the dominant way people tried to get "in your face" while web browsing. for the most part, vendors have realized that unless you bother to design well-enough, and target your placement for these types of ads, they're ignored (plus, again, it's a bunch of idiots who plaster good sites with "click the monkey to win!" or "which one is bart simpson?" banner ads that help us learn to use the 468 pixel by 60 pixel blinders we've become accustomed to. i especially laughed my ass off when people back in '97-'99 said the way fo the future ont he web was for server-push full-screen commercials to make revenue on the internet.
yeah, how's that workin' for ya? \
i dunno, am i throwing this thread too much off track by this post? by the way, brad, can i sign you up for some news available in email about pleasing your woman better? how about fixing your credit? how about pleasing your woman by fixing her credit?
Yea but um? Some of use are using text based mail software that does not even know what html is. We don't want to look at your code. Also even if the mail software can handle html most don't do it well and often wrong.
Yea but um? Some of use are using text based mail software that does not even know what html is. We don't want to look at your code. Also even if the mail software can handle html most don't do it well and often wrong.
that's why you're supposed to send as multi-part mime (which i don't even think outlook or mozilla do completely correctly), and make sure you have a coherent text-based version as well for deployment. it's also why you're supposed to hire someone who knows what they're doing, which most companies don't. i can generate an html email that can work in damn near anything even remotely html-aware and have it look good, function, and degrade nicely. again, a lot of designers not knowing what they're doing, not understanding the medium, and not testing thoroughly, and being unethical to boot. in the end, though, the point is a bit moot, as i have heard (i think i read an article a year ago...) that microsoft is freezing any more html development for any email client to avoid any further spamming or security issues. a bit of overkill, but when has ms ever been subtle...
y'see, it's just that the majority of people using this tool are using it wrong, like whacking nails with the handle-end of a hammer. they kinda/sorta get the idea, but they make a lot of noise, produce poor results, and look like idiots all the while. i hate those people. they make my job -- and reputation -- harder to keep clean. ("oh, you design email marketing... so you're a spammer!")
Geez... All I wanted to do was send an email to my family that linked a couple of words to their respective websites. I didn't mean to start a Holy War or anything.
And since I don't see any way to create html text in Mail, I'll just insert the addresses, which looks ugly to me. Still, if businesses such as Apple can send me loads of emails with html text, I don't see why I shouldn't be able to do so too.
Geez... All I wanted to do was send an email to my family that linked a couple of words to their respective websites. I didn't mean to start a Holy War or anything.
And since I don't see any way to create html text in Mail, I'll just insert the addresses, which looks ugly to me. Still, if businesses such as Apple can send me loads of emails with html text, I don't see why I shouldn't be able to do so too.
Mail.app automagically turns an http:// link into an email link without any HTML needed (even in plain text messages). Try sending one to yourself...
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http://www.birdhouse.org/etc/evilmail.html
http://www.georgedillon.com/web/html..._is_evil.shtml
http://www.georgedillon.com/web/html...il_still.shtml
And if you don't believe that last guy (he does come off as a little crazy), even Apple has a thing to say about this:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107401
As a matter of principle, I have any e-mail client I use set to ignore HTML. In today's world of spam and online attacks, it's too risky to do otherwise. If you want to make a link, do what I do: put it in parenthesis after the text.
Blah blah blah, and in conclusion, please visit AppleInsider ( http://www.appleinsider.com ) for more information.
Using <'s and >'s works too.
Originally posted by Brad
As a matter of principle, I have any e-mail client I use set to ignore HTML. In today's world of spam and online attacks, it's too risky to do otherwise. If you want to make a link, do what I do: put it in parenthesis after the text.
coming from someone who used to design HTML email for a living, i just want to say that it's a bunch of idiot spam-purveyors (or people just ignorant of their recipients... or the recipients being ignorant of what they can and cannot read, or what they have even signed up for) bringing down the entire medium of html in email. basically, everyone is equating html with spam, when plain text email can be spam just as easily (have you TRIED sifting through a newsgroup lately??? ACK!!)... it's just easier for the porn-mongers to hit you in the face immediately with the html versions rather than the "check out these hot chicks at http://........"
i can't stand it when, like the first link you posted, someone just chalks up html emails as a bunch of "fancy formatting." it's all a matter of who you give the good tools to. it is possible (though not recommended) to make something communicate well and look good in microsoft word. i hate to say it, because microsoft makes it about as easy to do so as mousing with your left foot... problem is, every friggin' idiot constructs such atrocities with it because it's on every computer and fools people into thinking what they're making in powerpoint will impress, rather than nauseate. and even microsoft has admitted that including html constructing capabilities in the standard outlook install may not have been their best idea. sometimes, you need to smile, and gently pull the power tools away from the stupid children and give them something soft, plush, and non-damaging to play with.
or how he steadfastly asserts that email was designed for plain text and simple communications... i have news for him, ask tim berners-lee, and that physicist will tell you the exact same thing. my how things change, and not necessarily for the worse.
plus, some of the file-serving checking (when images are loaded) done by pro-spammers just kills the lot of us who are just using it to get the word out for our goods and/or services in a good way. i'm as techno-geeky and gadget-happy as the next guy my age, but plain text e-mails, regardless of content, bore me to tears when they're just talking about news or products. html allows for better info design, for those willing to do it right (which, admittedly, is rare).
i liken it to how mp3 as a format and p2p as a delivery system were, for a while, on trial for the sins of what people were DOING with them. heck, p2p is still being attributed to illegal music sharing first and foremost. or how banner ads were the dominant way people tried to get "in your face" while web browsing. for the most part, vendors have realized that unless you bother to design well-enough, and target your placement for these types of ads, they're ignored (plus, again, it's a bunch of idiots who plaster good sites with "click the monkey to win!" or "which one is bart simpson?" banner ads that help us learn to use the 468 pixel by 60 pixel blinders we've become accustomed to. i especially laughed my ass off when people back in '97-'99 said the way fo the future ont he web was for server-push full-screen commercials to make revenue on the internet.
yeah, how's that workin' for ya?
i dunno, am i throwing this thread too much off track by this post? by the way, brad, can i sign you up for some news available in email about pleasing your woman better? how about fixing your credit? how about pleasing your woman by fixing her credit?
Originally posted by Scott
Yea but um? Some of use are using text based mail software that does not even know what html is. We don't want to look at your code. Also even if the mail software can handle html most don't do it well and often wrong.
that's why you're supposed to send as multi-part mime (which i don't even think outlook or mozilla do completely correctly), and make sure you have a coherent text-based version as well for deployment. it's also why you're supposed to hire someone who knows what they're doing, which most companies don't. i can generate an html email that can work in damn near anything even remotely html-aware and have it look good, function, and degrade nicely. again, a lot of designers not knowing what they're doing, not understanding the medium, and not testing thoroughly, and being unethical to boot. in the end, though, the point is a bit moot, as i have heard (i think i read an article a year ago...) that microsoft is freezing any more html development for any email client to avoid any further spamming or security issues. a bit of overkill, but when has ms ever been subtle...
y'see, it's just that the majority of people using this tool are using it wrong, like whacking nails with the handle-end of a hammer. they kinda/sorta get the idea, but they make a lot of noise, produce poor results, and look like idiots all the while. i hate those people. they make my job -- and reputation -- harder to keep clean. ("oh, you design email marketing... so you're a spammer!")
And since I don't see any way to create html text in Mail, I'll just insert the addresses, which looks ugly to me. Still, if businesses such as Apple can send me loads of emails with html text, I don't see why I shouldn't be able to do so too.
Originally posted by gobble gobble
Geez... All I wanted to do was send an email to my family that linked a couple of words to their respective websites. I didn't mean to start a Holy War or anything.
And since I don't see any way to create html text in Mail, I'll just insert the addresses, which looks ugly to me. Still, if businesses such as Apple can send me loads of emails with html text, I don't see why I shouldn't be able to do so too.
Mail.app automagically turns an http:// link into an email link without any HTML needed (even in plain text messages). Try sending one to yourself...
Originally posted by The Pie Man
Mail.app automagically turns an http:// link into an email link without any HTML needed (even in plain text messages). Try sending one to yourself...
I think he know this, but this is not that pretty to see this in an email
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compared to this
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