Profit is not what matters. It does matter, but total revenue is more important, from our perspectives.
Their bank account now holds $4.8 bn, up by $225 million.
Apple are obviously taking their R&D seriously, as they should.
In short, this was a great quarter, and high revenues to low profits probably means that we are going to see some big things coming out in the next year or so. This is a Good Thing?.
Apple is going on all 8 cylinders at the moment, in my opinion. m.
Profit is nice, but marketshare would be nice too.
44.6M total personal computers sold last quarter.
829K Macs sold last quarter
Yes, Virginia, that's a 1.86% marketshare.
I'm curious what kind of marketshare percentage Apple would have if one were to combine the computer numbers with the iPod/portable MP3 player numbers. (I don't know where to look for these statistics, so...)
That shouldn't matter to the software corporations who see the diminishing value of writing software for Macs.
The huge PC growth is overseas however, and US Mac marketshare is just under 3%, so it's not all that bad.
Sure it does. Target market has everything to do with software development. If your company makes products to streamline the logistics of a running multi-national inventories, then the Mac isn't going to get looked at. But if it's a whizz bang plug in for Photoshop there is going to be a Mac version.
I think we can take the sales figures positively because honestly the G5 shored up the high end but Apple is still weak on the low-end to mid-range units.
The next iMac needs to be stellar and Apple needs to risk cannibalizing the Powermacs with a decent iMac model. IE a G5 is needed. I'm buying a new Mac this summer so that's at least one sale that's coming.
Sure it should. If I were a games company, for instance, I'd want to know the numbers for home use, since people obviously don't buy games to use in the office.
And what about games? How many pure gamers are buying Macs instead of PCs? You're basically arguing 1.8% vs 2.x% at best.
Sure it does. Target market has everything to do with software development. If your company makes products to streamline the logistics of a running multi-national inventories, then the Mac isn't going to get looked at. But if it's a whizz bang plug in for Photoshop there is going to be a Mac version.
Quarter after quarter, Adobe's % revenue from Mac software has been falling...linearly. At some point it's going to represent a problem to Adobe investors and Adobe itself. Set aside your Apple fanboi-ism for a second. Apple truly needs to do something about marketshare.
Quarter after quarter, Adobe's % revenue from Mac software has been falling...linearly. At some point it's going to represent a problem to Adobe investors and Adobe itself. Set aside your Apple fanboi-ism for a second. Apple truly needs to do something about marketshare.
Because Adobe earns more and more on Acrobat. The Mac share of Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign et al is still high.
No. Acrobat is a big seller for office use, and apps like Acrobat Elements is sold with a minimum of 1,000 licenses.
Elements doesn't exist on Mac and isn't needed since PDF creation is built in.
Right, but I said shouldn't and not isn't. Apple's not a big enough market for such a product. That's basically what I've been saying. And as PC shipment growth continues to outpace Mac shipment growth (or complete lack of), the problem just gets bigger.
I don't think OS X's built-in PDF creation abilities are quite on par with what Adobe has to offer to Windows users.
Premiere, Encore, Audition, Photoshop Album...old apps are being dropped and new ones aren't being announced...
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Originally posted by hmurchison
Geez what is this loser doing?
Honestly, 63 million sucks...FIRE HIM...lol...Apple Employees have mouth's to feed!
44.6M total personal computers sold last quarter.
829K Macs sold last quarter
Yes, Virginia, that's a 1.86% marketshare.
Profit is not what matters. It does matter, but total revenue is more important, from our perspectives.
Their bank account now holds $4.8 bn, up by $225 million.
Apple are obviously taking their R&D seriously, as they should.
In short, this was a great quarter, and high revenues to low profits probably means that we are going to see some big things coming out in the next year or so. This is a Good Thing?.
Apple is going on all 8 cylinders at the moment, in my opinion. m.
Originally posted by Eugene
Profit is nice, but marketshare would be nice too.
44.6M total personal computers sold last quarter.
829K Macs sold last quarter
Yes, Virginia, that's a 1.86% marketshare.
I'm curious what kind of marketshare percentage Apple would have if one were to combine the computer numbers with the iPod/portable MP3 player numbers. (I don't know where to look for these statistics, so...)
installed user base is more important.
Originally posted by Eugene
Profit is nice, but marketshare would be nice too.
44.6M total personal computers sold last quarter.
829K Macs sold last quarter
Yes, Virginia, that's a 1.86% marketshare.
I would like to see how many of those sales from Apple and the PC market at large are from corporations and how many are to consumers.
Originally posted by robo
But... iPods are not personal computers...
yeah, but they sold 700k iPods and 800k macs
either way, I'm sure a pretty good percentage of those mac sales were to the installed user base(As mentioned above)
but also institutions and stuff
Originally posted by HOM
I would like to see how many of those sales from Apple and the PC market at large are from corporations and how many are to consumers.
That shouldn't matter to the software corporations who see the diminishing value of writing software for Macs.
The huge PC growth is overseas however, and US Mac marketshare is just under 3%, so it's not all that bad.
Originally posted by Eugene
That shouldn't matter to the software corporations who see the diminishing value of writing software for Macs.
The huge PC growth is overseas however, and US Mac marketshare is just under 3%, so it's not all that bad.
Sure it does. Target market has everything to do with software development. If your company makes products to streamline the logistics of a running multi-national inventories, then the Mac isn't going to get looked at. But if it's a whizz bang plug in for Photoshop there is going to be a Mac version.
The next iMac needs to be stellar and Apple needs to risk cannibalizing the Powermacs with a decent iMac model. IE a G5 is needed. I'm buying a new Mac this summer so that's at least one sale that's coming.
Originally posted by tonton
Sure it should. If I were a games company, for instance, I'd want to know the numbers for home use, since people obviously don't buy games to use in the office.
And what about games? How many pure gamers are buying Macs instead of PCs? You're basically arguing 1.8% vs 2.x% at best.
Originally posted by HOM
Sure it does. Target market has everything to do with software development. If your company makes products to streamline the logistics of a running multi-national inventories, then the Mac isn't going to get looked at. But if it's a whizz bang plug in for Photoshop there is going to be a Mac version.
Quarter after quarter, Adobe's % revenue from Mac software has been falling...linearly. At some point it's going to represent a problem to Adobe investors and Adobe itself. Set aside your Apple fanboi-ism for a second. Apple truly needs to do something about marketshare.
Originally posted by Eugene
Quarter after quarter, Adobe's % revenue from Mac software has been falling...linearly. At some point it's going to represent a problem to Adobe investors and Adobe itself. Set aside your Apple fanboi-ism for a second. Apple truly needs to do something about marketshare.
Because Adobe earns more and more on Acrobat. The Mac share of Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign et al is still high.
Originally posted by JLL
Because Adobe earns more and more on Acrobat. The Mac share of Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign et al is still high.
But shouldn't Acrobat be fairly evenly spread on both platforms? I'm talking PC vs Mac specifically, and not other sources of revenue.
Originally posted by Eugene
But shouldn't Acrobat be fairly evenly spread on both platforms?
No. Acrobat is a big seller for office use, and apps like Acrobat Elements is sold with a minimum of 1,000 licenses.
Elements doesn't exist on Mac and isn't needed since PDF creation is built in.
Originally posted by JLL
No. Acrobat is a big seller for office use, and apps like Acrobat Elements is sold with a minimum of 1,000 licenses.
Elements doesn't exist on Mac and isn't needed since PDF creation is built in.
Right, but I said shouldn't and not isn't. Apple's not a big enough market for such a product. That's basically what I've been saying. And as PC shipment growth continues to outpace Mac shipment growth (or complete lack of), the problem just gets bigger.
I don't think OS X's built-in PDF creation abilities are quite on par with what Adobe has to offer to Windows users.
Premiere, Encore, Audition, Photoshop Album...old apps are being dropped and new ones aren't being announced...
Originally posted by Eugene
Premiere, Encore, Audition, Photoshop Album...old apps are being dropped and new ones aren't being announced...
Don't you think that these are bad examples to generalize from given iMovie, iDVD, FCP, DVD Studo Pro, Soundtrack, iPhoto?