Kerry overtakes Dean in all NH polls, Clark trails a close 3rd

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http://www.americanresearchgroup.com/nhpoll/demtrack/



Kerry 27

Dean 22

Clark 19



Kerry is up by 10 points in a Boston Herald poll today, and in this ARG poll, he's up by 5 points. The Dean balloon is deflating fast and most people look to tonight's debate as being key for the 3 front-running candidates.



Kerry's campaign in NH had been declared dead months ago, but has seen a lot of new energy with his Iowa victory. If he does poor in the debate, however, he could lose some of that soft support.



It is also critical for Howard Dean to regain lost ground with a strong showing in the debate tonight. If Dean does not come in at least 2nd in NH, he is expected to withdraw from the race.



Finally, this is also a very important debate for Wesley Clark. Both Clark and Lieberman chose to skip the Iowa Caucuses to campaign in NH, and all it has done for Lieberman so far is 6% in the polls. NH isn't as essential for Clark as this is his first state he's running in, but if he wants to keep momentum up for his campaign, he really needs to overtake Howard Dean and finish second or higher.

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  • Reply 1 of 17
    groveratgroverat Posts: 10,872member
    Democrats eating their own. Now that's strategerie.



    Kerry seemed almost ashamed to have voted against the DOMA in 1996, as if it was some unpleasant chore. So fuck Kerry.
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  • Reply 2 of 17
    Now if only Edwards can have the same lucky as Kerry in the next round.
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  • Reply 3 of 17
    Debate tonight? Does anyone know what network(s) may cover this debate?



    Thank you,



    Fellows
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  • Reply 4 of 17
    brussellbrussell Posts: 9,812member
    The one day totals on some of those polls shows Dean dropping even further into third and Clark raising up a bit.



    Even if Kerry wins NH, it's hard for me to see how he goes on from there. He's in Kucinich territory in the polls in many of the post-NH states like SC, OK, and AZ. Clark seems to be doing best in the polls in those states, and if Dean loses both Iowa and NH it's hard to see him maintaining high numbers those later states. But now I wonder if Kerry will get a big bounce if he wins both Iowa and NH, and then go on to be competitive in those states too. Could it be a Kerry-Clark fight through to the nomination.



    Fran: I know you've seen some of Clark's speeches - how does he do? I've heard some comments about his lack of campaigning experience really showing in his events, that he's not so great with a crowd like the others. Do you get this sense too?
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  • Reply 5 of 17
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    Originally posted by FellowshipChurch iBook

    Debate tonight? Does anyone know what network(s) may cover this debate?



    Thank you,



    Fellows




    foxnews was the only cabal....er....i mean cable station that appears to be covering it. nightline will do an hour special with carefully extracted sound bites, (so be good dr. dean!) and i'm sure the daily show will trump them all, but you'll have to wait 'til tomorrow night for that.
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  • Reply 6 of 17
    brussellbrussell Posts: 9,812member
    I noticed this on Kerry's web page today.



    At the top it says:

    Quote:

    John Kerry delivered a major speech in Nashua, New Hampshire today to unveil his plan to end the domination of special interests in the White House.



    Further down, there's this:

    Quote:

    Learn more about the various groups that support John Kerry and his focus on the issues that these supporters care about.

    African Americans

    Asian Americans

    Americans Overseas

    Americans w/Disabilities

    Environmentalists

    Firefighters

    GLBT

    Latinos

    Native Americans

    Seniors

    Sportsmen

    Students

    Veterans

    Women-WVOT

    Workers

    Young Voters

    View More Kerry Communities



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  • Reply 7 of 17
    fran441fran441 Posts: 3,715member
    I've been very impressed with Wesley Clark when I've seen him speak. In fact, it was only because I went to see him speak that made me consider voting for him. I went into the event thinking he was more of a conservative, but I went out thinking he could beat George W. Bush.



    The debate is being held by WMUR in NH. It's a local ABC affiliate and one of the states two 'big' television stations (the other being WNDS, an indpendent station).



    I guess Fox News is broadcasting it on cable, but it's not a Fox News debate.
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  • Reply 8 of 17
    buonrottobuonrotto Posts: 6,368member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by BRussell

    I noticed this on Kerry's web page today.



    At the top it says: <snip>



    Further down, there's this: <snip>




    It's a two-way street, isn't it?
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  • Reply 9 of 17
    spcmsspcms Posts: 407member
    I've always said this would result in a Clark/Kerry or Kerry/Clark bill. One of them should get a sufficient ass wooping to make that happen though. I'm not sure what role Edwards will b playing in all this. I'm hoping he'll get somewhere inbetween Clark and Kerry, together with Dean, so the two former will more easily find eachother. I don't have the impression the NH primary will change the stakes a lot. In Dean u can stick a fork already, 'cause he's done.
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  • Reply 10 of 17
    andersanders Posts: 6,523member
    Kerry/Clark? Oh please god don´t let this happen.



    It would be Bush/Powell all over again
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  • Reply 11 of 17
    brussellbrussell Posts: 9,812member
    People who run for the nomination are almost never made VPs, but every election season people talk about it.
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  • Reply 12 of 17
    spcmsspcms Posts: 407member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by BRussell

    People who run for the nomination are almost never made VPs, but every election season people talk about it.



    Is that so ... mmm ... so far for my prediction i guess ... it's the first time i somewhat try to keep up with US presidential primaries (or even elections) so i'm allowed to make stupid bets
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  • Reply 13 of 17
    spcmsspcms Posts: 407member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Anders

    Kerry/Clark? Oh please god don´t let this happen.



    It would be Bush/Powell all over again




    Could u xplain that? Cause it doesn't sound good \
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  • Reply 14 of 17
    Quote:

    Originally posted by BRussell

    People who run for the nomination are almost never made VPs, but every election season people talk about it.



    just 4 out of the last 5.
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  • Reply 15 of 17
    andersanders Posts: 6,523member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by SpcMs

    Could u xplain that? Cause it doesn't sound good \



    Someone less suited becomes president and makes one much better suited their bitch.
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  • Reply 16 of 17
    spcmsspcms Posts: 407member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Anders

    Someone less suited becomes president and makes one much better suited their bitch.



    Mmm...you could be right...however, i'm afraid Clark still has a thing or two to learn and that he won't b able to turn it up another few notches when the time is there.
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  • Reply 17 of 17
    brussellbrussell Posts: 9,812member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by superkarate monkeydeathcar

    just 4 out of the last 5.



    Huh?



    How many of the following were going for the nomination that year and then became the running mate?



    2000: Cheney - no, Lieberman - no.

    1996: Kemp - no.

    1992: Gore - no.

    1988: Quayle - no, Bentsen - no.

    1984: Ferraro - no.

    1980: Bush - yes (the only one I know of).

    1976: Mondale - no.



    I don't know much about what happened before that, maybe it was more common in the past. But it doesn't seem to happen any more.
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