if lieberman steps down who gets his voters?
i don't see his campaign going much past feb 3rd...so who do his voters go to?
if edward loses SC, will he throw down? if so, who do his people turn to?
and when/if dean steps down (if his money runs out shortly after 2/3) who will get his people??
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edit to add my thoughts (like anyone cares)
lieberman (a conservative democrat) votes go to clark (since people are so worried that he is really a repub in democratic clothing)...the conservative demos should like him
edwards is a tougher call but...southern voters could also go to clark--he is a southern, military man, loves his momma
dean people are the wild card here...dean is running as a washington outsider and so is clark, so some dean people may swing to him...and both dean and clark are known more as straight shooters than the other candidates ... but dean people are more liberal and dean is a NE guy, so many could go to kerry
don't rightly know...think edwards will end up losing SC but will he then drop out? things get tight after next week
if edward loses SC, will he throw down? if so, who do his people turn to?
and when/if dean steps down (if his money runs out shortly after 2/3) who will get his people??
g
edit to add my thoughts (like anyone cares)
lieberman (a conservative democrat) votes go to clark (since people are so worried that he is really a repub in democratic clothing)...the conservative demos should like him
edwards is a tougher call but...southern voters could also go to clark--he is a southern, military man, loves his momma
dean people are the wild card here...dean is running as a washington outsider and so is clark, so some dean people may swing to him...and both dean and clark are known more as straight shooters than the other candidates ... but dean people are more liberal and dean is a NE guy, so many could go to kerry
don't rightly know...think edwards will end up losing SC but will he then drop out? things get tight after next week
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If he does not win the nomination, many Dean supporters I know will either stay home or vote third party. I plan to stay home if he does not win the nomination.
Lieberman's supporters will go to one of the Bush-lite Democrats.
Originally posted by Existence
Dean is not going to step down. He has said he's going all the way to the convention.
If he does not win the nomination, many Dean supporters I know will either stay home or vote third party. I plan to stay home if he does not win the nomination.
Lieberman's supporters will go to one of the Bush-lite Democrats.
That is more than pathetic!!!
that is absolutely idiotic . . . .
ban me if you must, but that attitude is ultimately childish, and, unfortunatley speaks volumes for the integrity of Dean supporters, IF it reflects their opinions
[EDIT]: ok, I'll apologize to the mods in advance . . . but, I'll leave my post up to show why I am so contrite . . .
i hope the conservatives who don't like bush too much right now do the same
i hope the dean people (if dean doesn't get the democratic nod) still come and vote...the chances of defeating bush are much better if they do...
personally i think (again, should dean not get the nod) that dean should be offered the karl rove position by whichever democrat wins the white house
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as for the "bush-lite" democrats...i much prefer them to the actual bush...they are smarter and not republicans...so they are ok in my book
Clark is going to do well in Oklahoma, Arizona, and North Dakota at the very least. He's been under the radar, so people don't expect much from him. Dean, on the other hand, has to win something or else it's a big problem for him since he was the frontrunner.
If Lieberman is out, his votes will most likely be spread throughout the field.
Originally posted by Existence
Dean is not going to step down. He has said he's going all the way to the convention.
If he does not win the nomination, many Dean supporters I know will either stay home or vote third party. I plan to stay home if he does not win the nomination.
Lieberman's supporters will go to one of the Bush-lite Democrats.
Don't screw the rest of the country by being petulant. I think any of the current Democrats would be better than Bush. Even if you consider some of them "Bush-lite", "lite" is less Bush than Bush, and that's a good thing.
It may be fashionable cynicism to say that there's not that much difference between the Democrats and the Republicans, but it's simply not true. Maybe some of the current crop of Democrats don't lean as far left as some might like them to, but they're all against continuing big tax cuts that benefit the wealthiest Americans, they're all for stronger environmental protection than Bush, they're all for improving our reputation within the international community, they're all pro-choice (varying somewhat on late-term abortions), they'd all end Bush's efforts to pack the courts with extremely conservative judges, etc.
I'm fairly certain that Dean himself would much prefer you to get out and vote for whichever Democrat gets the nomination than to see you stay home or vote for some no-chance candidate as a flippant form of protest.
Edwards just is a fantastic communicator, and I also like his basic message: it's a kind of optimistic populism. He has that ability to talk about economic and political fairness, which I like, but without it sounding like "class warfare."
Clark is a bit more of an unknown than Edwards, is not as good of a communicator, and has a less well-developed theme. But his military and foreign policy credentials are as good as you can get, and his domestic policies, while unoriginal, are safe and right out of the playbook. Kerry has too long of a Senate record to be safe from the Republican hit squad and seems to have unprincipled and wavering positions on important issues. But he'd be better than Dean, for me anyway.
and now look . . . Insurance is leaving Con anyway . . . .
Originally posted by pfflam
That is more than pathetic!!!
that is absolutely idiotic . . . .
ban me if you must, but that attitude is ultimately childish, and, unfortunatley speaks volumes for the integrity of Dean supporters, IF it reflects their opinions
[EDIT]: ok, I'll apologize to the mods in advance . . . but, I'll leave my post up to show why I am so contrite . . .
it IS idiotic, and nonsense, when and if dean steps down he'll endorse the nominee, dean should be proud for energizing the party and will make a great keynote at the democratic convention.
Originally posted by pfflam
With Liebermann's record of spearheading a corporate lobby effort to stop legislation, that would have been passed by Clinton, that would have strengthened the powers of the SEC to oversee corporate misdeeds, --all at the behest of his constituents in the Connecticut Insurance industry-- he could never get my vote . . . well, unless it were just him and Bush
and now look . . . Insurance is leaving Con anyway . . . .
I don't know anything about that - if I did, it might be enough to change my opinion, but I doubt it. I know enough about his philosophy and other positions to have formed my opinion of him.
But if you're willing to let one vote like that influence your opinion of a Senator that much, that doesn't bode well for what the Republicans will be able to do to JFK.