cooking my cds

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in General Discussion edited January 2014
ok, isn't extreme heat bad for cds? i rarely play cds on my computer but for some reason i was asleep at the wheel and just relaized that this can't be good for cds. this happens if i copy a cd to be burned too. back-up HD etc etc. i sold my plextor cd burner, maybe i shouldn't have since i don't recall this cooking my cds



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  • Reply 1 of 19
    baumanbauman Posts: 1,248member
    Wha!?!
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  • Reply 2 of 19
    You don't recall extreme heat being bad for CDs?



    I'm not really sure even I have any way to respond to that statement...
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  • Reply 3 of 19
    torifiletorifile Posts: 4,024member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by burningwheel

    ok, isn't extreme heat bad for cds? i rarely play cds on my computer but for some reason i was asleep at the wheel and just relaized that this can't be good for cds. this happens if i copy a cd to be burned too. back-up HD etc etc. i sold my plextor cd burner, maybe i shouldn't have since i don't recall this cooking my cds







    HuH? that was the most incomprehensible post EVER.
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  • Reply 4 of 19
    murbotmurbot Posts: 5,262member
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  • Reply 5 of 19
    kickahakickaha Posts: 8,760member
    He's worried that the CDs are getting too hot in his CD drive when he leaves them in there for a while.



    Answer: no. Not hot enough, unless there's something really wrong with your drive/computer.
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  • Reply 6 of 19
    While on the topic...



    I noted darkened spots on some backup CD the other day. So I poped them in to see if they were in good shape... they were not. I lost the data (some media backups... no biggy) and I was left wondering just how long is the average CD going to last? And what is the optimal storage conditions for CDs?
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  • Reply 7 of 19
    burningwheelburningwheel Posts: 1,827member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Kickaha

    He's worried that the CDs are getting too hot in his CD drive when he leaves them in there for a while.



    Answer: no. Not hot enough, unless there's something really wrong with your drive/computer.




    correct!



    i found this on the net referring to cd-rs. it was in regards to cd-rs being shipping in non-climate controlled trucks



    Quote:

    Since the dye is changed by heat, heating the entire disc results in media that is either un-usable or results in very low-quality burns.



    apparently heat can degrade audio. i need to find that page again
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  • Reply 8 of 19
    ast3r3xast3r3x Posts: 5,012member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by \\/\\/ickes

    While on the topic...



    I noted darkened spots on some backup CD the other day. So I poped them in to see if they were in good shape... they were not. I lost the data (some media backups... no biggy) and I was left wondering just how long is the average CD going to last? And what is the optimal storage conditions for CDs?




    Depends on who makes you discs. They should last a long time, but some companies Teramedia (I've had a 'friend' make me a CD) will flake off after a little bit of usage. But then I've had CD's for years that are still usable. I guess it comes down to how well you take care of them, and how well the protective coating on your CD's are.
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  • Reply 9 of 19
    crazychestercrazychester Posts: 1,339member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by \\/\\/ickes

    While on the topic...



    I noted darkened spots on some backup CD the other day. So I poped them in to see if they were in good shape... they were not. I lost the data (some media backups... no biggy) and I was left wondering just how long is the average CD going to last? And what is the optimal storage conditions for CDs?




    Now there was something about this in the media recently but I can't remember where I heard or read it. But they'd found quite a few brands (including some big names) didn't last anywhere near as long as expected. They claim they last at least 10 years but some brands were unusable after as little as two years.



    I remember when CDs first arrived and the music industry promoted them as indestructible. "You can use them as a frisbee!"
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  • Reply 10 of 19
    kickahakickaha Posts: 8,760member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by crazychester

    "You can use them as a frisbee!"



    A CS teacher of mine said this, and bounced one off the wall in class, then popped it in the drive.



    No, wait.



    That was a 3.5" floppy, when they were first commercially available... Jan, 1984.
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  • Reply 11 of 19
    crazychestercrazychester Posts: 1,339member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Kickaha

    A CS teacher of mine said this, and bounced one off the wall in class, then popped it in the drive.



    No, wait.



    That was a 3.5" floppy, when they were first commercially available... Jan, 1984.




    [Chester moves walking frame closer to Mac and pops false teeth back in. ]



    Well sonny, the year I finished school the most advanced piece of technology in the school office was a golf ball typewriter and they were still running off notes on...oh damn I forget what they're called (yikes Alzheimers!)....a thing involving carbon paper and cranking a handle that produced copies with lots of blurry purple writing.
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  • Reply 12 of 19
    so anyone with an external cd/dvd burner? do your discs get hot? how does it compare to internal burners. as i mentioned i don't recall my external plextor cooking the cds
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  • Reply 13 of 19
    kickahakickaha Posts: 8,760member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by crazychester

    [Chester moves walking frame closer to Mac and pops false teeth back in. ]



    Well sonny, the year I finished school the most advanced piece of technology in the school office was a golf ball typewriter and they were still running off notes on...oh damn I forget what they're called (yikes Alzheimers!)....a thing involving carbon paper and cranking a handle that produced copies with lots of blurry purple writing.




    Mimeograph, youngster.
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  • Reply 14 of 19
    crazychestercrazychester Posts: 1,339member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Kickaha

    Mimeograph, youngster.



    Thanks, Pop!
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  • Reply 15 of 19
    macvaultmacvault Posts: 323member
    I had some CDs I wanted to throw away but wanted to destrow the data first. So I threw them in my microwave for 3 seconds and watched them get fried



    It made a nice little light show in there and cool patern designs on the disk. Anyone else try this?
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  • Reply 16 of 19
    billybobskybillybobsky Posts: 1,914member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Kickaha

    Mimeograph, youngster.



    I loved the mimeograph...



    thermal photocopying is da bomb...
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  • Reply 17 of 19
    addaboxaddabox Posts: 12,665member
    Wait, you can use CDs as frisbees?



    (Pulls frisbee out of drive).



    Well, that explains the slow write speeds....
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  • Reply 18 of 19
    burningwheelburningwheel Posts: 1,827member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Macvault

    I had some CDs I wanted to throw away but wanted to destrow the data first. So I threw them in my microwave for 3 seconds and watched them get fried









    that must have smelled nice too



    It made a nice little light show in there and cool patern designs on the disk. Anyone else try this?




    why didn't you just scratch the hell out of them? i do that then send them to be recycled
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  • Reply 19 of 19
    aslan^aslan^ Posts: 599member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Macvault

    I had some CDs I wanted to throw away but wanted to destrow the data first. So I threw them in my microwave for 3 seconds and watched them get fried



    It made a nice little light show in there and cool patern designs on the disk. Anyone else try this?




    To be absolutley sure your data is destroyed you can take it to extreme measures... we often have to destroy cds at work and microwaving is enough but to prove a point, my friend affixed a paper cd label to the top of the cd before microwaving. Microwaved for a little while then pealed off the paper label. The whole foil part of the CD stuck to the paper label which he then put in the shredder. All we were left with was a clear plastic disc.
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