How to slow down a network printer?

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in General Discussion edited January 2014
i run a lab. so far, we've offered free printing to the students. up until a year ago, we had a 10 year old Apple Laserwriter as the main printer. although it still works, we got some money for a new printer, and bought it.



it's a great little HP 4300 sitting on the network. does duplexing etc. like a champ. only one problem.



printing costs for the year have already gone from $2,000 to $3,500 and look to keep on rising. i checked and we're kicking out over 400 pages a day, and this is for maybe 40 grad students.



i've noticed sitting in the recycle bin that a lot of them have started printing off stuff they don't really need. in large part because the printer is so fast, it's easier to print here and print the entire article than to just take out what they need.



i'd like to set it up so that the new printer prints slower than it is. anyone know of a good way to do it?

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  • Reply 1 of 18
    defiantdefiant Posts: 4,876member
    put the printer in a big box full of molasses



    How about you tell the students something along the lines of "Don't print everything, suckers!" I mean, it's worth a shot. Of course, I figure if you're here, you may have done that already.



    Maybe you could run the print jobs over a middle-app who restricts it to 10 pages/min? Or connect it over a slower node? Maybe connect it over a serial cable?



    Just throwing ideas?
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  • Reply 2 of 18
    I'd try to implement some sort of quota system rather than slow it down. Tell the students they can only print x number of pages every day and if they go over they'll have to pay a small print fee per page. A few cents even would deter a lot of wasteful printing.



    I'm not sure how it would work in software, though...
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  • Reply 3 of 18
    alcimedesalcimedes Posts: 5,486member
    well, i thought about that angle, the problem is then everyone would have to log onto machine in order to access them, and i'd have to run some kind of auth. server to make sure they were up to date. i'd have to create new accounts, delete the old ones, and i'd still run into problems if someone didn't log out.



    i know when the machine was slower, i didn't have any of these issues.



    i'm thinking maybe i'll pull out almost all the RAM, so these huge 100+ page jobs won't seem like such a good idea.



    i've talked to the students, posted notices at the printer etc, but it made no difference.
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  • Reply 4 of 18
    paulpaul Posts: 5,278member
    people are printing out 100+ page print jobs????



    you should limit that to like 20 pages or something...
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  • Reply 5 of 18
    kickahakickaha Posts: 8,760member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Brad

    I'd try to implement some sort of quota system rather than slow it down.



    MacOS X Server has printer quotas. Hook the printer into one machine, install MOSXS, set up quotas.
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  • Reply 6 of 18
    torifiletorifile Posts: 4,024member
    Speaking as a grad student: don't do it. Grad student life is miserable as it is. We might as well get free printing out of it.
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  • Reply 7 of 18
    ast3r3xast3r3x Posts: 5,012member
    I've been blatantly misusing schools supplies since I was a wee one. I like how fast the school's printers print (and I don't have to pay for the ink) so if I'm going to be printing out large things I'll print there. I'll often just print out a lot of news stories and read them later, or recently I printed out a whole bunch of pages on PHP functions. I mean it must have been easily over 75 pages. And I did it because I could. I may seem inconsiderate, but I print in the library if I can, because they have more money to spend then the technology department does for ink.



    I used to feel kinda bad, but the librarians use everything for themselves too. The one was printing out so many pages of "marc" codes or something for a college course she teaches.
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  • Reply 8 of 18
    torifiletorifile Posts: 4,024member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by ast3r3x

    I mean it must have been easily over 75 pages.



    That's NOTHING. I once printed out 4 manuals of WebObjects documentation and bound them using the clinic's equipment/supplies. Easily over 600 pages. Last year, I also printed out a couple of the R stat package manuals. Well over 400 pages. Hell, earlier this year, I printed out 3 copies of my prospectus to give to my committee and 1 for myself. Another 400 pages. I'm bad, I know.



    But sometimes I'll print at home. (Using reams of paper lifted from the computer lab. I figure if I didn't print here, I'd just use their paper AND ink there. )
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  • Reply 9 of 18
    What you need is this, have the comps the students use send their jobs the a separate comp sitting next to the printer, On that machine have jobs stopped by default so the students have to ask you or a member of staff to start their printing, You can then easily see how many pages their going to print and charge em a few pennies for the privilege. You could have the keyboard stowed in a lockable draw or something.



    Failing that, just go round with a collection tin every time you see a new face.
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  • Reply 10 of 18
    I say charge them through the nose! Look at NCSU's policy as an example.



    http://www.ncsu.edu/it/essentials/to.../printing.html



    "WolfCopy charges $0.06 per page printed on a WolfCopy printer."



    There are only two publicly-available printers on the entire campus that don't fall into this "WolfCopy" shit. You should implement quotas and post some rules like this:

    Quote:

    How can I best conserve my print quota?
    • Get accustomed to working on-screen rather than on paper. Read and edit online, and print final copies only.

    • Preview files with display commands, editors and viewers before you print them. Most applications produce "wysiwyg" (what-you-see-is-what-you-get) screen output. In other words, the way something looks on-screen is pretty close to the way it will look when printed. If you are still unsure, choose the "Print Preview" option from the application's File menu. If you're revising a file, print only the pages you've changed, not the whole file. This saves paper and shortens the time you and others have to spend waiting for output. Also, turn off header pages so that a banner or header page does not come out ahead of the output.

    • Check your print settings carefully before you send something to the printer. For example, if you have just changed a setting to print three copies of a document instead of one, make sure you change the setting back to one copy before you print again.

    • Do not use the printer as a copier. Photocopying costs as little as 3 cents a page; printing is 6 cents per page.




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  • Reply 11 of 18
    deestardeestar Posts: 105member
    I would put say 100-150 pages in the printer tray for the day, then hide away the extra paper. When if they run out they will ask you for some more, at this point you could:



    "a" open a can of whoop ass on them or "b" If there is a valid reason for more paper then fair enough.



    Hopefully if they realise that there is an enforced group paper limit then they will be more responsible and nobody likes the wraith of whoop ass.



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  • Reply 12 of 18
    cowerdcowerd Posts: 579member
    Quote:

    MacOS X Server has printer quotas. Hook the printer into one machine, install MOSXS, set up quotas.



    Hook up the printer to the slowest Mac you have -- ideally one requiring an Xpostfacto install. Set up CUPS on that machine to act as the print server for the HP. That should throttle down everything. With CUPS you should also be able to set quotas per user, or per printer.



    Oh and don't forget the 10Base-T hub.
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  • Reply 13 of 18
    giantgiant Posts: 6,041member
    We charge.
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  • Reply 14 of 18
    alcimedesalcimedes Posts: 5,486member
    yeah, i'd like my thesis students to be able to print out their final thesis w/o paying an arm and a leg.



    i just don't want people printing out piles of crap that's not necessary. i think i might just hook it up to something really slow.



    that would work.



    i feel bad for my students otherwise. we have no money for that lab.
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  • Reply 15 of 18
    thuh freakthuh freak Posts: 2,664member
    bah. ur missing one of the least obvious answers. write ur own print driver. once u got that down, open the source and throw in some sleep whereever u like. if ur already using foss drivers it'll be easier, cuz u wont have to start from scratch. i think most printers from major labels have foss drivers available.



    or, if they are (but i presume they aren't) using something like 'lp' or 'lpr' to print, u can write a wrapper for it. something that reads in the input, and every 80 lines or so throws a big ol' sleep. u could even do it in a shell or perl script. the script reroutes stdin to the real lp/lpr/whatever at the appropriate delay.
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  • Reply 16 of 18
    ebbyebby Posts: 3,110member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by cowerd

    Oh and don't forget the 10Base-T hub.



    Why not one of those old Phoneline networking kits. Outpost I think it runs at 230K/s

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  • Reply 17 of 18
    amoryaamorya Posts: 1,103member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Ebby

    Why not one of those old Phoneline networking kits. Outpost I think it runs at 230K/s





    Naah - LocalTalk, baby! And run the printer from that old Mac Plus that's sitting in your loft.



    It won't have the RAM to cope with anything bigger than a page or two!





    Amorya
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  • Reply 18 of 18
    johnqjohnq Posts: 2,763member
    I've always printed things 4 pages on one page.



    Add a nice rule around each and make sure they flow correctly.



    The type is usually still quite legible and readable.



    Do that for 20 years and you are saving a lot of paper.



    Then again, I never print unless at work.



    Never once owned a printer personally. They've never seemed worth the hassle. To many moving parts and planned obsolescence.
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