600mhz vs. 700mhz ibook

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in Current Mac Hardware edited January 2014
Really, will I notice much of a difference? I am talking about the current ibooks $1199 and $1499. I am trying to get two one for my wife and one for me. We don't need the combo drive but is the faster processor worth it?

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  • Reply 1 of 20
    stevesteve Posts: 523member
    If you don't need the Combo drive, the 600MHz will suit you just fine. The processors in the iBook are based off the new SIMD model, and are actually just reguarly faster than the G3's of before (in the iMac, for example). Just make sure you load that sucker up with RAM. OS X eats it for breakfast. I recommend 384 at LEAST, but you may want to make the leap to 512 or 640 from the beginning. Trust me, it's worth it, and it will probably give you even more of a speed increase than if you went with the 700MHz, and cheaper too (that is, if you buy from somewhere other than Apple; they tend to overprice their RAM).
  • Reply 2 of 20
    yevgenyyevgeny Posts: 1,148member
    [quote]Originally posted by Jon Rubinstein:

    <strong>If you don't need the Combo drive, the 600MHz will suit you just fine. The processors in the iBook are based off the new SIMD model, and are actually just reguarly faster than the G3's of before (in the iMac, for example). Just make sure you load that sucker up with RAM. OS X eats it for breakfast. I recommend 384 at LEAST, but you may want to make the leap to 512 or 640 from the beginning. Trust me, it's worth it, and it will probably give you even more of a speed increase than if you went with the 700MHz, and cheaper too (that is, if you buy from somewhere other than Apple; they tend to overprice their RAM).</strong><hr></blockquote>





    I agree. Skip the MHz and go for more ram.
  • Reply 3 of 20
    jeff79mjeff79m Posts: 37member
    Thanks thats what I was wondering since this will be my first mac purchase I don't have anything to compare it to.
  • Reply 4 of 20
    emaneman Posts: 7,204member
    If you don't mind just having a CD-ROM drive instead of a Combo then yeah go for the 600MHz with loads of RAM.
  • Reply 5 of 20
    agent302agent302 Posts: 974member
    [quote]Originally posted by Jon Rubinstein:

    <strong>The processors in the iBook are based off the new SIMD model, and are actually just reguarly faster than the G3's of before.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Umm, there aren't any SIMD units on the new G3. The new speed is largely accounted for by I believe the larger L2 cache. On that note, for what you want, the 600 Mhz is probably fine.
  • Reply 6 of 20
    prestonpreston Posts: 219member
    The Radeon mobility on the 700mhz model will also be much nicer for graphics/games.



    Pres
  • Reply 7 of 20
    dhagan4755dhagan4755 Posts: 2,148member
    [quote]Originally posted by preston:

    <strong>The Radeon mobility on the 700mhz model will also be much nicer for graphics/games.</strong><hr></blockquote>Uhm...the 600mhz model has the radeon mobility too...
  • Reply 8 of 20
    paulpaul Posts: 5,278member
    you could also overclock the 600 machines to 700 r even 800 *(i bet they could handle it, because they are most likely clocked down 700s) using the software overclocker discussed on some other thread... the new Sahara chips support this, you dont even have to open the case either, its all software!!!

    do a search, or if i come across it i'll link to it...
  • Reply 9 of 20
    powerdocpowerdoc Posts: 8,123member
    the new i book 600 is faster than the previous i book 600 , better CPU (by a 20 % factor due to the much better L2 cache : cache locking features, double size, 256 bit wide compared to 64 bit for the previous), and much better video card : the radeon mobility.

    The 700 mhz is only 15 % faster : it's up to you to make your choice : my advice take the 600 and add more RAM : OS X is a RAM eater. 512 MB will make your i book rock. 256 MB is the minimum.

    Have a good buy :cool:



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  • Reply 10 of 20
    paulpaul Posts: 5,278member
    1500 Powerdoc!!! <img src="graemlins/surprised.gif" border="0" alt="[Surprised]" />
  • Reply 11 of 20
    I disagree about the RAM. It is true that OS X cares more about RAM than processor speed, but once you've purchased a certain CPU model that's it. If you want more later you have to start all over with a new machine. Overclocking might work out, but it might not.



    On the other hand, it's a given that eventually you'll have the money to upgrade the RAM.



    Don't forget that a combo drive can save your rear, particularly in a portable. I know of two major assignments I could have turned in on time if I had a combo drive in my earlier laptops. Sometimes you just have to cut a disk fast for printing on another machine when you're away from your own desk.



    Then there's importance of regular backups.... you'll probably have at least one thing on your computer you'd pay $300 to recover if the machine were stolen, but from the tone of your post I'm guessing you have a tower or some other solution for the other purposes of a combo drive.
  • Reply 12 of 20
    blizaineblizaine Posts: 239member
    [quote]Originally posted by Paul:

    <strong>you could also overclock the 600 machines to 700 r even 800 *(i bet they could handle it, because they are most likely clocked down 700s) using the software overclocker discussed on some other thread... the new Sahara chips support this, you dont even have to open the case either, its all software!!!

    do a search, or if i come across it i'll link to it...</strong><hr></blockquote>



    yeah,

    This would make the iBook 700 a very good deal.

    <a href="http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/systems/ibook_2002_overclocking.html"; target="_blank">How to Overclock iBook 700 to 800 via software.</a>



    Blizaine
  • Reply 13 of 20
    So if I need to have the Combo drive, well 600mhz with 512MB of RAM be sufficient?
  • Reply 14 of 20
    cyko95cyko95 Posts: 391member
    [quote]Originally posted by Paul Liew:

    <strong>So if I need to have the Combo drive, well 600mhz with 512MB of RAM be sufficient?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    If you go to Apple's website you can see that the 600Mhz model doesn't come with the option for a combo drive. So you'll have to get the 700Mhz model if you are contemplating that. I personally have the iBook 700 and love it.
  • Reply 15 of 20
    Not sure whether this is a misunderstanding on my part, or whether it's due to different models for different markets (I'm in the UK), but you CAN get a 600MHz iBook with Combo drive - I bought mine last week from Apple UK.



    Also, if you're looking to save money, I bought mine from Apple's Refurbished Store - I saved 35% on the list price and it comes with all the regular guarantees you get on a new model. The catch is that you can only buy online and the Refurbished Store is only open on Wednesdays.



    Those minor glitches apart, it's a pretty good deal.
  • Reply 16 of 20
    emaneman Posts: 7,204member
    [quote]Originally posted by alanwoollcombe:

    <strong>Not sure whether this is a misunderstanding on my part, or whether it's due to different models for different markets (I'm in the UK), but you CAN get a 600MHz iBook with Combo drive - I bought mine last week from Apple UK.



    Also, if you're looking to save money, I bought mine from Apple's Refurbished Store - I saved 35% on the list price and it comes with all the regular guarantees you get on a new model. The catch is that you can only buy online and the Refurbished Store is only open on Wednesdays.



    Those minor glitches apart, it's a pretty good deal.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    But you got the older model. The new ones have a different processor that's faster and a better video card.
  • Reply 17 of 20
    Newer model? Since last week..?! Yikes! How long have these upgraded models been around?
  • Reply 18 of 20
    emaneman Posts: 7,204member
    [quote]Originally posted by alanwoollcombe:

    <strong>Newer model? Since last week..?! Yikes! How long have these upgraded models been around?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    They've been around since May 20th.
  • Reply 19 of 20
    Rats - sometimes I hate the speed technology advances! Not quite as great a deal as I thought, but still not bad, I suppose.
  • Reply 20 of 20
    stoostoo Posts: 1,490member
    [quote]I bought mine from Apple's Refurbished Store <hr></blockquote>



    Sssh! That's my iBook acquisition plan too.
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