Democracy Version 9.0
All of the questions being raised about the U.S. "occupation" of Iraq has frustrated me to no end. I recently heard a quote from a source I cannot currently site that went something like this...
"The attempts being made in Iraq to implement a Democratic government will not be successful in any short period of time. We (the U.S.) assume we can oust their dictator who has kept their people living in fear for decades and just implement Democracy 9.0. when the United States was forming its government and developing its laws the country was literally like the wild west. You cant expect these people to just accept our version of what a democracy should be. There needs to be time for growth and acceptance of the policys that are adopted."
this time that is needed requires individuals to maintain a sense of law until the people of Iraq can do this themselves. So this so called "Occupation" is necessary, if not by the U.S. then by someone else who can give the people time to implement their own practices. if we were to just get out of Iraq and leave it in shambles the world (mostly the U.S.) would have accomplished nothing more than destroying a country.
"The attempts being made in Iraq to implement a Democratic government will not be successful in any short period of time. We (the U.S.) assume we can oust their dictator who has kept their people living in fear for decades and just implement Democracy 9.0. when the United States was forming its government and developing its laws the country was literally like the wild west. You cant expect these people to just accept our version of what a democracy should be. There needs to be time for growth and acceptance of the policys that are adopted."
this time that is needed requires individuals to maintain a sense of law until the people of Iraq can do this themselves. So this so called "Occupation" is necessary, if not by the U.S. then by someone else who can give the people time to implement their own practices. if we were to just get out of Iraq and leave it in shambles the world (mostly the U.S.) would have accomplished nothing more than destroying a country.
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Deal with it.
Still, it's possibly not too late. I say make Iraq into a UN mandate ASAP. Allowing some serious debate amongst the Iraqis themselves on a constitution would be nice too.
Originally posted by Harald
You can remove the quotes from 'occupation' for a start. You may not like it, but it's an occupation. The coalition invaded and is now occupying Iraq. It is the force of occupation, not so-called, or watered-down 'occupation.' That's what the UN calls it. That's what the US calls it.
Deal with it.
Originally posted by staphbaby
Hmm... perhaps if they'd done something wacky like received multilateral support for their action from the UN, and a UN mandate, there wouldn't be so great a perception amongst Iraqis that the US was imposing their own agenda on them?
Still, it's possibly not too late. I say make Iraq into a UN mandate ASAP. Allowing some serious debate amongst the Iraqis themselves on a constitution would be nice too.
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Originally posted by Playmaker
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Originally posted by staphbaby
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Originally posted by Playmaker
Harald wasn't commenting on whether the U.S. should stay or leave Iraq. He was merely pointing out (and rightfully so) that it is infact an occupation. It was preceded by a military attack and now american forces are occupying Iraqi soil. It's not a "so-called" occupation that you seem to imply when putting it in quotes. It's an occupation. Call it what it is.
Originally posted by KANE
Harald wasn't commenting on whether the U.S. should stay or leave Iraq. He was merely pointing out (and rightfully so) that it is infact an occupation. It was preceded by a military attack and now american forces are occupying Iraqi soil. It's not a "so-called" occupation that you seem to imply when putting it in quotes. It's an occupation. Call it what it is.
I appoligize if I took his post out of context. Perhaps I should have deemphasized occupation (by leaving the quotes out
Seriously my point was less about occupation and more about the need for some authority to be present until Iraq can handle this for itself. If there was less focus on the US standing on their soil and more focus on why we are there. I do agree that a little help from the UN would be benificial.