They are Here

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in Current Mac Hardware edited January 2014
They are here <a href="http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore/"; target="_blank">Apple Store</a>







$1,699.00

Image Dual 867MHz PowerPC G4

256K L2 cache

& 1MB L3 cache/processor

133MHz System Bus

256MB PC2100 DDR SDRAM

60GB Ultra ATA drive

Combo drive (DVD/CD-RW)

NVIDIA GeForce4 MX

56K internal modem



Shipping in 1-3 days



Dual 1GHz PowerPC G4

256K L2 cache

& 1MB L3 cache/processor

167MHz System Bus

256MB PC2700 DDR SDRAM

80GB Ultra ATA drive

SuperDrive (DVD-R/CD-RW)

ATI Radeon 9000 Pro

56K internal modem



Shipping in 1-3 days



Dual 1.25GHz PowerPC G4

256K L2 cache

& 2MB L3 cache/processor

167MHz System Bus

512MB PC2700 DDR SDRAM

120GB Ultra ATA drive

SuperDrive (DVD-R/CD-RW)

ATI Radeon 9000 Pro

56K internal modem



Shipping in 6-8 weeks



Dual 1.25GHz PowerPC G4

256K L2 cache

& 2MB L3 cache/processor

167MHz System Bus

2.0GB PC2700 DDR SDRAM

120GB Ultra ATA drive

SuperDrive & Combo drive

NVIDIA GeForce4 Titanium

56K internal modem



Shipping in 6-8 weeks





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  • Reply 1 of 26
    kecksykecksy Posts: 1,002member
    Please! I hope these babies have faster L3 caches to make up for the slow bus.
  • Reply 2 of 26
    aquaticaquatic Posts: 5,602member
    Apple's site isn't updated across the board. Weird.
  • Reply 3 of 26
    aquaticaquatic Posts: 5,602member
    Why doesn't the Ultimate have an ATi 9700?

    And why the two optical drives?

    Man those look ugly. They better be quiet!
  • Reply 4 of 26
    [quote]Originally posted by Aquatik:

    <strong>Why doesn't the Ultimate have an ATi 9700?

    And why the two optical drives?

    Man those look ugly. They better be quiet!</strong><hr></blockquote>



    The ATI 9700 is not ready yet, I believe.

    Actually I think it's good to have room for two optical drives. I like this update. And for a pro machine, I don't care as much for the design as for the consumer ones (except for the TiBook)
  • Reply 5 of 26
    Hey! Apple didn't cripple the low end! It got the DDR and duals and cache.



    Kept the old bus speed, though. I guess that's the only 'crippling'.



    The low end machine is a BEAST.



    Jet
  • Reply 6 of 26
    Yea, I was expecting no ddr on the low end. Looks like a bargain
  • Reply 7 of 26
    aquaticaquatic Posts: 5,602member
    Yes it is, these are GOOD PowerMacs.

    Yes, it's good to have a second drive bay but who here is going to get two drives? <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />



    I see Apple is charging their usual jaw-dropping rates on RAM.



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  • Reply 8 of 26
    [quote]Originally posted by Aquatik:

    <strong>Why doesn't the Ultimate have an ATi 9700?

    And why the two optical drives?

    Man those look ugly. They better be quiet!</strong><hr></blockquote>



    &lt;WarnerBrothersCartoonVoice&gt;AHHHHHH SHADDAAAP!&lt;/WarnerBrothersCartoonVoice&gt;







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  • Reply 9 of 26
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    I posted first, and without a spelling error in the topic, so I hope my thread isn't the one that is closed.
  • Reply 10 of 26
    Info's up.<a href="http://www.apple.com/powermac/"; target="_blank">Here</a>

    Damm i want one of the 1.25s
  • Reply 11 of 26
    [quote]Originally posted by Eugene:

    <strong>I posted first, and without a spelling error in the topic, so I hope my thread isn't the one that is closed. </strong><hr></blockquote>



    Does it reely matter that much to you? <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
  • Reply 12 of 26
    It must do, otherwise he wouldnt have said it

    Anyway back to topic

    low end looks good but middle.... HELLO!! Dual giga for 600 less, I might have to sell my cube... No too painful to even consider, I'll wait for a

    G5!
  • Reply 13 of 26
    rogue27rogue27 Posts: 607member
    [quote]Originally posted by Thereubster:

    <strong>It must do, otherwise he wouldnt have said it

    Anyway back to topic

    low end looks good but middle.... HELLO!! Dual giga for 600 less, I might have to sell my cube... No too painful to even consider, I'll wait for a

    G5!</strong><hr></blockquote>



    You'll have one or two birthdays before that happens.
  • Reply 14 of 26
    Man do they got these systems priced right and they look super nice.
  • Reply 15 of 26
    Gee Willakers! Makes me want to sell my TiBook 550 and get a Dual 867 with flat panel! But on second thought, not. I'm still envisioning a Black Titanium with 17" screen... mmmm... or even better, a PowerBook the size of an iPod that uses LCD glasses as its main display! Yes!!!
  • Reply 15 of 26
    shetlineshetline Posts: 4,695member
    [quote]Originally posted by BrianMacOS:

    <strong>Man do they got these systems priced right and they look super nice.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I find these new systems disappointing.



    I was hoping for 1.4 GHz with true DDR -- not the Xserve hack. Now, maybe that was unrealistic in light of Apple's problems with Motorola, but it was a very reasonable hope in light of what current technology can and should produce.



    I might have settled for 1.25 GHz with an FSB that took full advantage of the 333 MHz DDR. But we didn't get even that.



    Unless some testing and benchmarking reveal that these new systems perform much better than I suspect -- on a wide range of uses, not just a narrow range of PhotoShop tests -- I'll just settle for my TiBook 800 for now and hope for something better -- much, MUCH better -- next year.
  • Reply 17 of 26
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,295member
    Anyone have more info on this new Controller from Apple.



    We gotta look before we leap. Apple even adding Quasi DDR support is better than nothing.



    Is it just me or did Apple add Audio In back or has it been this way for a while?
  • Reply 18 of 26
    This is a nice update! Unlike many others, I also dig the stylin' of the new PMs, very cool. The two drive bays finally perfect the El Capitain case design, it's bombed together, finally, and IMO Apple could keep this case forever (as long as it can cool the CPUs and it would consistently be more functional and better looking than any Wintel crap.



    My ONLY dissapointment is with the low end. 867 MHz w/ 133 MHz system bus? Isn't that what the last low end was? Dual is nice, but IMO Apple should have gone with a 166 MHz bus on the low end. But for all we know, this is Moto's fault and not Apple's.



    It now seems clear that Apple is building the fastest Powermacs they can around the crapware CPUs that Moto supplies them with. It will be a fine day of vengance and triumph when IBM finally gives it up for Apple. But these Powermacs will get Apple by until the Power 5 or whatever...figure speed bumps up to around 1.5 GHz, then the G4 will die a slow, painful death like it deserves by living on in Apple's consumer Macs.



    Eh, too bad about the system bus, tho, because with a REAL DDR bus, these systems would fscking SCREAM on Altivec tasks!



    All around a nice update, but I can see why these weren't hyped at MWNY.
  • Reply 19 of 26
    Yeah they arent so bad, esp. when you compare them to the previous low and middle model. BTW where do you find out the speed of the CD burner in the combo drive? It aint on the specs....
  • Reply 20 of 26
    forget it I found it (16x10x32...same as old one) <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
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