what is the minimum hardware to run X properly?

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in Current Mac Hardware edited January 2014
..when i upgrade - is a pmac so much better than an imac??

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  • Reply 1 of 10
    serranoserrano Posts: 1,806member
    yeah. dual proc...



    however os x seems to run fine on the imac 15's i've played with, and they weren't 10.2



    i can honestly say i wasn't impressed with their speed improvements over my g3 488 smurf tower



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  • Reply 2 of 10
    xaqtlyxaqtly Posts: 450member
    I'd say the minimum is a B&W G3. It runs fine on flat panel iMacs, and even on the previous gen. iMacs.
  • Reply 3 of 10
    minimum:

    350Mhz G3

    100Mhz Bus

    AGP Grahpics

    256MB RAM
  • Reply 4 of 10
    im using an ibook g3.500 but its had it - my fault- i broke the keybaord .. i tried out a pmac g4/933 -t was excellent and only 10.1.2..



    very impressed.
  • Reply 5 of 10
    ok .. it costs - but i can afford it , now.



    after seeing the dell site..i aplogise for slagging off apples price structure.



    the extras on a pc are standard on a mac STILL...



    its a bit mad.. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
  • Reply 6 of 10
    lucaluca Posts: 3,833member
    You can run OS X on any G3 other than the Kanga PowerBook (which uses a PPC 740 instead of a PPC 750 processor). This includes pre-G3s with G3 upgrades in them. Of course, it'll take some hacking and some workarounds in order to run it on a G3-upgraded 7500, but it'll still work.



    It's fairly slow on my 233 MHz PowerBook G3, but it's definitely usable, especially when I turn off dock magnification and bouncing. You don't need AGP graphics, that's only for Quartz Extreme.



    I'd say my computer is about the minimum you can run OS X on without going insane. An earlier PowerBook G3 (the 233MHz version without L2 cache) would be bad.



    So the minimum, I'd say, would be:

    233MHz G3 w/ L2 cache

    4MB of VRAM on a graphics card (not integrated graphics)

    160MB of RAM (what I have; I'm not sure how it runs with 128MB)



    To run it well and get that really smooth, speedy feel, you probably want a 16MB graphics card, 256MB of RAM, and at least a 300MHz G3. G4s help a lot too. I bet a PowerMac G4/400 would beat an iBook 600.
  • Reply 7 of 10
    [quote] im using an ibook g3.500 but its had it - my fault- i broke the keybaord <hr></blockquote>



    Actually? go to your local Apple approved repair shop, you can order replacement keyboards for laptops from there. I got one for my Blueberry iBook (keep strawberry juice away from laptops ). Beware, they cost a pretty $150 (for mine at least.)
  • Reply 8 of 10
    lucaluca Posts: 3,833member
    If you completely broke the keyboard, you'll have to get a new one, but if you only broke a key, then you can order individual keys from pbparts.com. That's a lot cheaper than getting individual keys from Apple.
  • Reply 9 of 10
    An IQ of 75 or better.



    Oh sorry, you said hardware...



    j/k
  • Reply 10 of 10
    got a jag demo from official apple dudes today



    one seemed to think that the iBook explicitly wouldn't support Quartz Extreme (the official minimum spec is 16Mb VRAM and AGP 2x, but he seemed to say "but not the iBook 700... didn't we have a slide on that?")



    their official word (maybe jag only since he said he'd been on the jag team for 2 months) on minimum h/w was a beige tower g3 (approx 350Mhz in other docs) with 128Mb RAM.



    but if you go into X's terminal app and type "top", you'll note the number of simultaneous processes, so there's a clear case for one of the new duals purely for multiprocessing performance gain (even if you don't run many "apps" at once)



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