Is GeForce 4 Ti worth it?

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in Current Mac Hardware edited January 2014
Well. I don't play games. But I do now work on "high ploygon" count 3D models



The ONLY reason why I am thinking of the GF Ti is because right now it's the only card with 128MB VRAM.



Funny thing is that I don't even know these 128MB RAM would benefit me or not <img src="graemlins/embarrassed.gif" border="0" alt="[Embarrassed]" />



Talked to many 3D people. Half said go for 128 while the other half said 64MB is just fine. Don't know who to listen to.



If that GeForce 4 Ti costs like $200 US I would buy it immediately....but $400US......I really have to take it seriously.
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  • Reply 1 of 21
    programmerprogrammer Posts: 3,409member
    [quote]Originally posted by Leonis:

    <strong>Well. I don't play games. But I do now work on "high ploygon" count 3D models



    The ONLY reason why I am thinking of the GF Ti is because right now it's the only card with 128MB VRAM.



    Funny thing is that I don't even know these 128MB RAM would benefit me or not <img src="graemlins/embarrassed.gif" border="0" alt="[Embarrassed]" />



    Talked to many 3D people. Half said go for 128 while the other half said 64MB is just fine. Don't know who to listen to.



    If that GeForce 4 Ti costs like $200 US I would buy it immediately....but $400US......I really have to take it seriously.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I would say don't buy it -- get a 9000 or 8500 right now, and then a 9700 (or NV30) when they become available. The 9700 will kick the snot out of the 4Ti, and is far more flexible in its capabilities.
  • Reply 2 of 21
    squashsquash Posts: 332member
    Have to agree with Programmer...the 9700 will kick the crap out of the Ti card. Tom's hardware a PC site....had card scores and the 9700 was way way way faster than the Ti.



    Plus no matter what anyone says. ATI makes better over-all cards. For what you want......get an ati card.
  • Reply 3 of 21
    leonisleonis Posts: 3,427member
    So anyone know when the 9700 will ship?
  • Reply 4 of 21
    I'm holding out for the 9700. I have heard from a guy at ATI that they might not be including ADC on the card, but DVI. I don't know if that's a concern for you or not, but I suspect ATI will most likely be shipping the Mac retail with ADC. Should be out around October.
  • Reply 5 of 21
    leonisleonis Posts: 3,427member
    I don't have ADC based monitor. I still am a huge fan of DVI and VGA based monitors. No way to ADC
  • Reply 6 of 21
    PC users have already gotten their Radeon 9700s. I guess that could be a good thing though for us.
  • Reply 7 of 21
    bigcbigc Posts: 1,224member
    I got one for my jan dual gig in Quake went from 1024X768 at 60 fps with G4MX to 100 fps.Scrolling is a little faster in large tif files, not really worth it.



    10.2 gave more increase for large tif files than the G4Ti did.



    Maybe they will get some new drivers for 10.2.
  • Reply 8 of 21
    i have the ti 4600 in this amd box and like it (alice looks great in it, so does anarchy online) but i will be ditching this card and getting the 9700 which will blow it away.



    i just wonder if either of these cards will work in a new powermac...(just need mac drivers rite?)
  • Reply 9 of 21
    leonisleonis Posts: 3,427member
    Waiting waiting waiting.....for the 9700
  • Reply 10 of 21
    ryukyuryukyu Posts: 448member
    For 3D, i don't understand why everyone is so high on ATI cards.

    Nvidia's cards blow them away.

    The numbers look impressive, but I've used both for doing 3D woek and the ATIs never work as good.

    I'm talking about working in 3D, not playing games, so if that's not what you're referring to, I apologize.

    The only cards from ATI that I would be interested in seeing for the Mac are the FireGL cards. Again, I'm talking about for 3D modeling and animating.
  • Reply 11 of 21
    i do video on this box and lemme tell ya nothing touches the high-end ati cards when it comes to video. (ati dv and all in wonder cards) the ti cards were good for games
  • Reply 12 of 21
    applenutapplenut Posts: 5,768member
    [quote]Originally posted by ryukyu:

    <strong>For 3D, i don't understand why everyone is so high on ATI cards.

    Nvidia's cards blow them away.

    The numbers look impressive, but I've used both for doing 3D woek and the ATIs never work as good.

    I'm talking about working in 3D, not playing games, so if that's not what you're referring to, I apologize.

    The only cards from ATI that I would be interested in seeing for the Mac are the FireGL cards. Again, I'm talking about for 3D modeling and animating.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    maybe on the pc,,, not on the mac, nvidia drivers suck
  • Reply 13 of 21
    matsumatsu Posts: 6,558member
    I don't think the All-in-wonder cards ever worked on the mac.



    However, if you don't need ADC, it seems that many an ATI PC card is easily flashable.
  • Reply 14 of 21
    I really wish ATI made the All-In-Wonder cards OS X-compatible, I'd pay top dollar for one in my G4. There aren't any descent tv/video capture for OS X ,let alone PCI cards.
  • Reply 15 of 21
    [quote]Originally posted by ryukyu:

    <strong>For 3D, i don't understand why everyone is so high on ATI cards.

    Nvidia's cards blow them away.

    The numbers look impressive, but I've used both for doing 3D woek and the ATIs never work as good.

    I'm talking about working in 3D, not playing games, so if that's not what you're referring to, I apologize.

    The only cards from ATI that I would be interested in seeing for the Mac are the FireGL cards. Again, I'm talking about for 3D modeling and animating.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    While this may have been true in the past, the 9700 changes all that. It is substantially ahead of the 4Ti in all performance metrics, including 3D modeling & animation. The NV30 will surpass it again (slightly), but it isn't going to ship for another couple of months and even then is not clear when a Mac version will be available (and then probably only from Apple). The 9700 has surpassed the FireGL series as well.
  • Reply 16 of 21
    [quote]Originally posted by TigerWoods99:

    <strong>I really wish ATI made the All-In-Wonder cards OS X-compatible, I'd pay top dollar for one in my G4. There aren't any descent tv/video capture for OS X ,let alone PCI cards. </strong><hr></blockquote>



    There are a few FireWire based products, have you considered them? It makes less and less sense to waste valuable video card board & chip real estate on this kind of functionality these days.
  • Reply 17 of 21
    [quote]Originally posted by Bigc:

    <strong>I got one for my jan dual gig in Quake went from 1024X768 at 60 fps with G4MX to 100 fps.Scrolling is a little faster in large tif files, not really worth it.



    10.2 gave more increase for large tif files than the G4Ti did.



    Maybe they will get some new drivers for 10.2.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Uh... well, 10.2 has updated nVidia drivers...



    That may have been partially responsible for the performance increases.
  • Reply 18 of 21
    I know of a few USB ones, but I haven't seen any Firewire. Also the USB are expensive and not all that great rfom what I've heard.
  • Reply 19 of 21
    So when are these 9700 Radeons supposed to be available for the Mac?

    And Futuremac, video work does not constitute 3D work, so I would assume that ATI cards would be fine doing video.



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  • Reply 20 of 21
    bigcbigc Posts: 1,224member
    [quote]Originally posted by Programmer:

    <strong>



    There are a few FireWire based products, have you considered them? It makes less and less sense to waste valuable video card board & chip real estate on this kind of functionality these days.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    What are they? Who?
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