Ti BowerBooks and Mini cd-r's

in Current Mac Hardware edited January 2014
Does anyone know if the current Ti powerbook's internal optical drive (DVD/CDRW) can burn 8cm disks? I couldn't find the anything about them in the documentation.

I hope it can -- I've really fallen for those 8cm disks.

--Thanks in advance


  • Reply 1 of 19
    wmfwmf Posts: 1,164member
    Do NOT put a mini-cd in your TiBook.
  • Reply 2 of 19
    ebbyebby Posts: 3,110member
    Didn't someone create a adapter for miniCD's so they could be used? I thought I read a article about that recently. Will look into it...
  • Reply 3 of 19
    wormboywormboy Posts: 220member
    Just to clarify, Apple has clearly stated that their drives will not work with mini disks and in fact, once in, some drives will be unable to eject the disk.
  • Reply 4 of 19
    matsumatsu Posts: 6,558member
    Slot loads are a dog gamed liability. BRING BACK THE FVCKING TRAYS ALREADY!!!

    [ 08-29-2002: Message edited by: Matsu ]</p>
  • Reply 5 of 19
    Sony (I think) makes an adapter for the mini-CDs so that you can put them in slot loading drives. I don't know if you can buy it separately, as it usually comes with their cameras (the ones that save data onto mini-CDs.)

  • Reply 6 of 19
    Trays are not as cool, so they will not be back anytime soon. They do need a manual eject hole or mechanism.
  • Reply 7 of 19
    matsumatsu Posts: 6,558member
    Isn't that the Apple moto, better cool and expensive than functional and affordable.

    Jobs can be such a damn tool.
  • Reply 8 of 19
    resres Posts: 711member
    Darn. It is really too bad that we can't use the mini cd's -- they are perfect for small backups, and a lot easier to carry around.

    Maybe we need to start a "bring back the tray petition."
  • Reply 9 of 19
    matsumatsu Posts: 6,558member
    We need to start a realistic competitive non-RDF price/spec correlation petition. No more twice as much for half as fast machines/prices. Better expandability and software support for third party peripherals. Basically, we need a Steve Jobs recto-cranial axis realignment petition -- We here the undersigned sincerely request that Jobs' gets his head out of his a$$.
  • Reply 10 of 19
    Umm, the slot-loading effect is kinda key to the whole 1" thick aspect of the powerbook (and i'd bet it weighs less than a tray also). After owning mine for 4 months, it's a tradeoff that I'm very much happy to make.
  • Reply 11 of 19
    matsumatsu Posts: 6,558member
    There are notebooks that are even thinner than the Ti (in Japan) that incorporate a TRAY loading device. A laptop tray load is just as thin as a slot load. The mechanism is still there on the slot (it just stays inside) The manual trays of notebooks actually have less moving parts.
  • Reply 12 of 19
    amoryaamorya Posts: 1,103member
    "The 80 mm and 120 mm round discs are the only size and shape that work with slot loading or slotted tray CD-ROM and DVD-ROM drives. See Figures 1 and 2."

    <a href="http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58641&amp;SaveKCWindowURL=http:% 2F%2Fkbase.info.apple.com%2Fcgi-bin%2FWebObjects%2Fkbase.woa%2Fwa%2FSaveKCToHomePa ge&searchMode=Expert&kbhost=kbase.info.apple.com&s howButton=false&randomValue=100&showSurvey=true&se ssionID=anonymous|146910913" target="_blank">http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58641&amp;SaveKCWindowURL=http:% 2F%2Fkbase.info.apple.com%2Fcgi-bin%2FWebObjects%2Fkbase.woa%2Fwa%2FSaveKCToHomePa ge&searchMode=Expert&kbhost=kbase.info.apple.com&s howButton=false&randomValue=100&showSurvey=true&se ssionID=anonymous|146910913</a>

    You can use 8cm disks in a TiBook, according to Apple. But you can't use any other sizes, or strange shapes like business card CDs.

  • Reply 13 of 19
    amoryaamorya Posts: 1,103member
    Actually, spoke too soon.

    "Important You should not insert 80 mm round discs in the PowerBook G4 (Gigabit Ethernet) computer."

    You can use them in all other Powerbook G4s.

    <a href="http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=88275&amp;SaveKCWindowURL=http:% 2F%2Fkbase.info.apple.com%2Fcgi-bin%2FWebObjects%2Fkbase.woa%2Fwa%2FSaveKCToHomePa ge&searchMode=Expert&kbhost=kbase.info.apple.com&s howButton=false&randomValue=100&showSurvey=true&se ssionID=anonymous|146910913" target="_blank">http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=88275&amp;SaveKCWindowURL=http:% 2F%2Fkbase.info.apple.com%2Fcgi-bin%2FWebObjects%2Fkbase.woa%2Fwa%2FSaveKCToHomePa ge&searchMode=Expert&kbhost=kbase.info.apple.com&s howButton=false&randomValue=100&showSurvey=true&se ssionID=anonymous|146910913</a>

  • Reply 14 of 19
    addisonaddison Posts: 1,185member
    I think it is a smame that this is the case all the slotloading iMacs support 80mm disks and Apple should not build machines that can't stake standard disks. An 80mm disk is a standard disk, it is offically recognised.
  • Reply 15 of 19
    resres Posts: 711member
    I found the page that mentions the new powerbooks.


    The PowerBook G4 (Gigabit Ethernet) and PowerBook G4 (DVI) computers will not accept an 80 mm round disc.


    Here's the link to the page: <a href="http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58641"; target="_blank">http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58641</a>;

  • Reply 16 of 19
    bradbowerbradbower Posts: 1,068member
    Ooh, Ti BowerBooks?
  • Reply 17 of 19
    So I take it the iBooks are out when it comes to this?? I actually just used a mini cd in mine the other day when i burned some drivers for a friends wintel machine.
  • Reply 18 of 19
    bradbowerbradbower Posts: 1,068member

    It's quite simple: if you have a slot-loading drive, don't put in smaller or odd-shaped discs. If you have a snap-in tray-loading drive, do as you please with them. And if you are a manufacturer or producer of CDs and are thinking about using an odd shape/size, think about the audience you're losing and do the smart thing. It is possible to have cool-looking CDs that are normal-sized but not necessarily fully used (as in, readable all the way to the edge). I've gotten a few demos that have about the same readable area as an 80mm, but have clear plastic around the edges decorated in an interesting fashion.

    I'm not real sure about the PowerMacs which have tray-load drives but you don't snap the discs in, though.. I wonder how they would stay aligned for that.
  • Reply 19 of 19
    matsumatsu Posts: 6,558member
    The thing is, unlike all the odd shaped cd's (whose makers ought to be bludgeoned with broken iPods) the 8cm disc has ALWAYS been a part of both the CD and DVD spec, ALWAYS!!! When drive makers make a drive that doesn't fully support the spec, that's annoying, when Apple uses said drive in a product,

    [ 08-31-2002: Message edited by: Matsu ]</p>
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