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  • Reply 21 of 37
    johnqjohnq Posts: 2,763member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by bunge

    I don't understand the question.



    Sadly, everyone south of the Mason-Dixon Line says the phrase "hate on".







    The rest of us don't.



    Read it as similar to "pick on", if that helps.



    Like "Why does everyone pick on Southerners?" = "Why does everyone hate on Southerners".



    Don't be confused into thinking:



    "Why does everyone hate on PCs?"



    ...means:



    "Why does everyone on PCs hate?" or "Why does everyone hate (when) on (their) PCs?"



    Oh well, English is open to regional mangling whatta ya gonna do?
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  • Reply 22 of 37
    johnqjohnq Posts: 2,763member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by tonton

    I'd never heard the phrase "hate on" in my life but that graphic is brilliant.





    Just being cheeky, no offense.



    But actually, I heard it first when I visited Missouri, so, it isn't really limited to The South proper, I guess. I just know that a cursory glance to the location of the poster usually makes me go "yep".



    And to those that say "hate on", realize that to the rest of us it creates a kind of full stop in the flow of reading/hearing because we need to back up from "on" and go "oh, he's southern, ok", and then continue on with the correct interpretation.



    We're just so used to seeing "hate" being the final word before the subject.
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  • Reply 23 of 37
    naplesxnaplesx Posts: 3,743member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by johnq

    Just being cheeky, no offense.



    But actually, I heard it first when I visited Missouri, so, it isn't really limited to The South proper, I guess. I just know that a cursory glance to the location of the poster usually makes me go "yep".



    And to those that say "hate on", realize that to the rest of us it creates a kind of full stop in the flow of reading/hearing because we need to back up from "on" and go "oh, he's southern, ok", and then continue on with the correct interpretation.



    We're just so used to seeing "hate" being the final word before the subject.




    It kinda like "rock on".
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  • Reply 24 of 37
    relicrelic Posts: 4,735member
    WIndows needs to play catch up with rest of the OS's out there. M$ crap just looks older and older every day. This was the reason why I left Apple after OS 9, I thought they were smoking crack. WORST PIECE OF SHITT OS EVER! If Microsofts OS doesn't change like Apple people are going to flee in leaps and bounds.
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  • Reply 25 of 37
    johnqjohnq Posts: 2,763member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Relic

    WIndows needs to play catch up with rest of the OS's out there. M$ crap just looks older and older every day. This was the reason why I left Apple after OS 9, I thought they were smoking crack. WORST PIECE OF SHITT OS EVER! If Microsofts OS doesn't change like Apple people are going to flee in leaps and bounds.



    So if you left Apple because of Mac OS 9, what did you switch to? Was M$ not crap at that time? Surely not Linux. Or did you take a few years off from computing?
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  • Reply 26 of 37
    relicrelic Posts: 4,735member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by johnq

    So if you left Apple because of Mac OS 9, what did you switch to? Was M$ not crap at that time? Surely not Linux. Or did you take a few years off from computing?



    Sun, after joining the Navy I had extensive training in Unix environments. Got to appreciate the value of preemptive multitasking and CPU job assignment. OS 9 was a nightmare, I literally threw my Powerbook across the room after it?s third crash in one hour. My Sun UltraSparc sitting next to it was up for 5 months without a single reboot. I love the rock solidness of a good UNIX machine; nothing comes close to its reliability for my mission critical applications. After touching UNIX, OS 9 was just a broken toy to me. OS X, well that?s a different story, hence my resurrection. However, that being said; until Apple looses those horridness Classic extensions they won?t be a serious UNIX player. Death to the Finder say?s I, aaarrrrrr.
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  • Reply 27 of 37
    kickahakickaha Posts: 8,760member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Relic

    Sun, after joining the Navy I had extensive training in Unix environments. Got to appreciate the value of preemptive multitasking and CPU job assignment. OS 9 was a nightmare, I literally threw my Powerbook across the room after it?s third crash in one hour. My Sun UltraSparc sitting next to it was up for 5 months without a single reboot. I love the rock solidness of a good UNIX machine; nothing comes close to its reliability for my mission critical applications. After touching UNIX, OS 9 was just a broken toy to me. OS X, well that?s a different story, hence my resurrection. However, that being said; until Apple looses those horridness Classic extensions they won?t be a serious UNIX player. Death to the Finder say?s I, aaarrrrrr.



    Er, I think you're confused there... Classic extensions only affect the copy of MacOS 9 running in the Classic environment - they have nothing to do with the MacOS X side of things.



    Now, if you mean you dislike the entire Extensions *idea* as implemented in MacOS X, and would rather revert to flat files for configuration and systems management, I can only say that you're quite insane, and would recommend you seek help. I've never seen an easier to understand or config Unix system, in my 20+ years of working with them. Bringing in XML as a the lingua franca for systems config was a stroke of genius. I know plenty of IT folks who slobber over the concept while toiling away with flat files, cursing all the while.
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  • Reply 28 of 37
    johnqjohnq Posts: 2,763member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Relic

    Sun, after joining the Navy I had extensive training in Unix environments. Got to appreciate the value of preemptive multitasking and CPU job assignment. OS 9 was a nightmare, I literally threw my Powerbook across the room after it?s third crash in one hour. My Sun UltraSparc sitting next to it was up for 5 months without a single reboot. I love the rock solidness of a good UNIX machine; nothing comes close to its reliability for my mission critical applications. After touching UNIX, OS 9 was just a broken toy to me. OS X, well that?s a different story, hence my resurrection. However, that being said; until Apple looses those horridness Classic extensions they won?t be a serious UNIX player. Death to the Finder say?s I, aaarrrrrr.



    Ok that makes sense. Didn't like Mac OS 9's crashing. Windows sucked. Mac OS X wasn't around at that point. Sun, for your needs, worked. Putting aside my hatred of Sun, I can see your point of view up to the Classic extensions/Finder sentences.
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  • Reply 29 of 37
    Laughing so hard I have tears rolling down my cheeks...



    I had not seen nor heard the expression "hate on" since I was a little kid in east Texas. Always thought it was just something people in the Lufkin - Nacadoches areas said; I had no idea the whole southern USA used the phrase. Thanks for the good laugh, guys!





    James
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  • Reply 30 of 37
    Sorry about the whole "hate on" phrase. Ive never really been any further North than Maryland so i just assumed everyone knew what i was talking about
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  • Reply 31 of 37
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Kickaha

    BIOS, anyone? I mean dear god, how old/crufty/aged/obsolete is that again? So why not ditch it? Because the lowest layer of Windows boot code still relies on it, and MS is terrified to touch it. So MS requires it... so hardware manufacturers still use it... so users can't do simple things that Mac users have taken for granted for ages, like boot from any storage device.



    The SGI 320's and 540's were windows machine without BIOS's. So it's certainly possible, but I guess it requires some degree of thought and engineering. MS hates that kind of thing.



    I'm currently in a business that uses PocketPC's to prototype certain new products. It's a fucking travesty. PocketPC's are already the most poorly thought-out things on Earth (due to MS, since the PDA's and the XScales are both pretty good.) But anyway, MS stifles innovation by making it "easy" to get PocketPC products to the market, so long as you dump them a fat royalty on WinCE. . . In the end, everyone has to use the same, overkill hardware to run WinCE.



    Anyway, if you want a good chuckle, do a search for "rugged PocketPC."
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  • Reply 32 of 37
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Protostar

    Sorry about the whole "hate on" phrase. Ive never really been any further North than Maryland so i just assumed everyone knew what i was talking about



    Someone should map out the use of the term "wicked" in the same way as the map above.



    PCs are awesome in the way my new LCD TV is awesome. Great specs, the picture is great, etc. but the designers/engineers dropped the ball when it came to the finer details of the thing -- the annoying startup chime, the complicated wiring and confusing TV/display standards (not the manufacturer's fault per se, but still), the cheesy remote, the whole thing with programming the remote (I usually end up using using 3 different ones because no single one does the job), the fugly on-screen UI (not too intrusive at least), the poor writing in the manual, etc. I like my new TV a lot relative to what else is out there, but being acquainted with Apple's total designs, it's a distant second in terms of its design -- and this particular model won a few design awards in 2003.



    It's just that once you are familiar with how completely designed Apple's products are, you can spot how and where everyone else cut corners.
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  • Reply 33 of 37
    johnqjohnq Posts: 2,763member
    Wicked at least makes a bit of sense, as in a British "delightfully evil" sense...it's when it's used with pisser that really confuses things.



    Wikid pissa, guy.



    And in Cali/west they have "hella" (since made national by Metallica).



    I digress.



    I hate PCs because of their command key layout. It simply hurts to do the most basic things and then there is that stupid Start menu button. Gah.
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  • Reply 34 of 37




    I really hate on Windows this morning!



    I got an email titled, "Returned Mail: See Transcript for Details," which is the same title I got when an email I sent yesterday really did bounce from a Verizon server (typo in the email address). So I opened it, and of course all these software and porn links open on my computer, creating neverending pop-ups, adding links to my favorites, adding IE toolbars and installing apps on my work PC. I managed to (I think) get rid of all of them, but it took an hour of work time, and stupid f*****g Windows isn't smart enough to even let me know that it's installing software, let alone getting my consent.



    I don't give a flying f**k about how great the hardware is if the damned system software is so hapless and dangerous! I hate PCs!







    [edit: censored myself a bit]
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  • Reply 35 of 37
    shetlineshetline Posts: 4,695member
    Personally, I think I hate at PCs.
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