i made the mistake :-)

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fredouilfredouil
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in macOS edited January 2014
hi,



it was impossible to wait more, i'd installed Tiger 8a294 on my PB17 (previous OS was 10.3.6).



the installation was fine but i'd waited 10 hours with a blue screen, and i don't have the login !!!



i'd knew, one of the issue of this release was to wait a lot for the first login but now i'm afraid ;-)



i done a reboot in Verbose, it seems fine but i don't have the login.



i'd tryed to re-install with apple-C but it doesn't boot on the DVD now.



i have a huge problem !!!!!!



what can i do ? is it normal, do i need to wait more ?



Thanks a lot for your help.







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  • Reply 1 of 12
    kickahakickaha Posts: 8,760member
    Unless you backed up everything ahead of time, um... you may be screwed.
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  • Reply 2 of 12
    tomjtomj Posts: 120member
    you can wait until they actually release tiger, and then actually install it and i think it should be fine...that will require quite a bit of patience, but that's what you gotta do if you want to save those mp3s
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  • Reply 3 of 12
    kickahakickaha Posts: 8,760member
    Nope, final versions have NEVER been installable over developer releases.



    Dev previews are for developers to experiment with, period. They have never been designed for consumer use. They have, every one, required a full reformat and reinstall to get to the final retail version.
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  • Reply 4 of 12
    krispiekrispie Posts: 260member
    Restore from your backup.



    I'd have thought the answer was obvious, no?
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  • Reply 5 of 12
    >_>>_> Posts: 336member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by krispie

    Restore from your backup.



    I'd have thought the answer was obvious, no?



    You can restart your powerbook in target disk mode, and hook it up to another mac. Then use the other mac to install panther onto your powerbook.



    I've had to do this before, for similar reasons. Worked fine.



    - Xidius
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  • Reply 6 of 12
    kickahakickaha Posts: 8,760member
    Except that installing Panther (10.3) over a dev release of Tiger (10.4) is almost certainly going to cause issues.



    If that's the route you're going to try, you're going to have to manually delete everything in /System, most everything in /Library, and all of /etc, /usr, /private, /bin, all /Applications that you didn't install yourself (ie, Apple's stuff)...



    Basically everything except /Users is going to have to undergo a quadruple bypass with a liver transplant on the side.



    And THEN... hope that nothing in the new dev build (say, Address Book, Mail, etc) did anything to alter your data files to a new format, because then those will be unrecoverable to use in 10.3.
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  • Reply 7 of 12
    formerlurkerformerlurker Posts: 2,686member
    Karma!
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  • Reply 8 of 12
    kickahakickaha Posts: 8,760member
    No, just an exercise in reading the release notes. Those sections where it says not to install it on a needed machine, that it isn't a stable product, that it and all technologies in it are still subject to change at Apple's whim, and that backing up would be a good idea beforehand... you know, those little unimportant ones.
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  • Reply 9 of 12
    >_>>_> Posts: 336member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Kickaha

    Except that installing Panther (10.3) over a dev release of Tiger (10.4) is almost certainly going to cause issues.



    Well, I would expect him to back up all his files on mac #2, and then do an erase+install.



    I was addressing the fact that his computer wasn't booting from disks.



    - Xidius
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  • Reply 10 of 12
    jim paradisejim paradise Posts: 116member
    Try booting your computer in target disk mode to another Mac. If it works, pull your stuff off, then wipe and reinstall.
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  • Reply 11 of 12
    kickahakickaha Posts: 8,760member
    The above two posts are great in theory, and since he never was actually able to log in, it has a high chance of working.



    However. (You knew there was one coming... )



    If you log in to a 10.4 machine, depending on what applications you run (including Finder), you may or may not be able to still access your data when going back to 10.3, even if you extract /Users successfully to another machine for safe keeping. I know that from 10.1 to 10.2, *I* got hit with this with Address Book. The dev builds of 10.2 modifiied the Address Book data so that 10.1 Address Book couldn't read it, and when the 10.2 Final came out, guess what... yup, not able to read the 10.2 dev build converted files. I lucked out in that an old backup from several months prior kept me from losing *all* the data, but I still lost quite a bit.



    Here endeth the lesson: only put dev builds on a machine that you will have no problems doing a full reformat on at any time, for any reason. Do not install it on a machine you *need*, and certainly don't install it on a machine that hosts your personal data. You may find yourself in a jam. Note that this also includes a separate partition for the OS install... if you log in to the dev build OS and run its apps on your 10.3 data, you may find that it has converted it to a new format that you can no longer read in 10.3.



    Fun, eh?
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  • Reply 12 of 12
    bnoyhtuawbbnoyhtuawb Posts: 456member
    ... the guy was stupid enough not even to read the README ...









    ... and never even heard of using an external disk for dev installs ...
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