who owns an emac?

in Current Mac Hardware edited January 2014
anyone experiencing the "raster shift" epidemic yet?

yes, i relaize that this thread is pointless, because if you can't currently see the top third of your screen, you've probably already driven your emac in a panicked rush to your local apple reseller in an effort to exorcise the demons -- and therefore probably are not reading this here board.

but what the hell, i'm bored.

and if the reports are true, what does everyone else think? did apple use a new video/crt supplier with the emacs? i mean, if reports are to be believed (and remember the static popping and shorting problem of emacs not too long ago?), sure, you get what you pay for, but COME ON. :eek:


  • Reply 1 of 17
    I wouldn't call it an "epidemic". On these forums, you only here from the people having problems. The people who are happy rarely post about it. Maybe you'll get some good replies here.
  • Reply 2 of 17
    amorphamorph Posts: 7,112member
    Actually, dealers are reporting anywhere from 15% to 60% units sold are coming in for repairs. As AtAT says, "[t]hat drives through Unacceptable, goes straight on past Utterly Shocking, and checks into the Oh My God Inn in Completely Unbelievable, Arizona."

    Whence my remark elsethread about Apple's poor luck with 17" monitors. Ever since the 1710AV, they've been plagued with problems. Makes you wonder. <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />

    I need hardly say that this will do nothing for Apple's prospects in education, if the dealer repair rates reflect the extent of the problem. A lot of schools still have warm, fond memories of the 5200 and its ilk.

    [ 12-06-2002: Message edited by: Amorph ]</p>
  • Reply 3 of 17
    matsumatsu Posts: 6,558member
    Must be those "quality" components responsible for the Apple premium. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> And yes, for an unexpandable AIO "desktop" the eMac is expensive.
  • Reply 4 of 17
    pscatespscates Posts: 5,847member
    We have three 700MHz Combo Drive models at work, and just last week, the one to the left of me (that a co-worker uses) started doing that weird screen thing.

    It gets these SEVERE flickering lines and the bottom third of the screen will "trapezoid in", kinda - for lack of a better explanation - fold in on itself. Very odd looking.

    Then the topper: the entire screen image rises up to where there is a black area at the bottom of the screen that's about 2" or so tall and the top third of the screen image is running off the top of the monitor.

    In other words, you can't see the menu bar or hard drive icon at all.


    The other two eMacs (including the one I use) are - knock on wood - doing okay and seem fine. However, the one that is currently wigging out a bit is one that's a few months old. The remaining two are less than a month old, so...
  • Reply 5 of 17
    snofsnof Posts: 98member
    I got my dad an eMac with a superdrive for his Birthday (back in september) and I'm happy to say that so far we haven't had any problems.
  • Reply 6 of 17
    Theres no problem, nothing to see, move along....

    .......or so the germans would have us believe <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
  • Reply 7 of 17
    I help an old friend with his eMac, which is on the older side as far as eMacs go. (It's actually a pretty nice computer, if you ask me.) Anyway, I haven't noticed a problem.

    I seem to recall that iMacs had a lot of trouble with analog boards as well. Guess it's a good thing that Apple is going all LCD, because they sure as hell need a new engineer to design their analog electronics. . . .

    <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
  • Reply 8 of 17
    pscatespscates Posts: 5,847member
    By the way, I too dig on the eMacs. They're actually quite cool and what the iMac SHOULD'VE been starting in about mid-2000 (17" screen, more optical drive options, a G4, etc.).

    But noooooooo. We get Indigo, Sage, Flower Power, etc. for another year-and-a-half.

    Better late than never, I guess...

    Tell you what: had the LCD iMac never been invented (or had the eMac been unveiled first), I would've JUMPED on an eMac instead and saved myself some clams.

    I would miss that "wow" factor that my LCD iMac seems to garner, but it's not as if that's gotten me laid or anything...

  • Reply 9 of 17
    the eMacs that appear to be most problematic are the ones built between July and September.

    We haven't gone so far as to stop selling them, but we are warning customers of potential issues.

    But this is just more of the same that I have come to except from Apple in recent years.

    Maxing out margins at the expense of quality and marketshare
  • Reply 10 of 17
    My eMac (purchased at the end of November) is sofar doing fine. One issue i have noticed is that on wake up the screen turns on, clicks off, and then goes on once again.

    Is it a preview of more problems?
  • Reply 11 of 17
    maskermasker Posts: 451member
    My wife's emac 700 is doing fine.

    Where can I look to find out when it was made?

  • Reply 12 of 17
    matsumatsu Posts: 6,558member
    I was in a Future Shop today to test drive an iMac 17". When I asked to see the iMac, the sales guy showed me an eMac... hahaha
  • Reply 13 of 17
    bartobarto Posts: 2,246member
    Out of the 350 eMacs delivered to the Aust. National Uni., I'm not aware of a single one with the "raster shift problem".

  • Reply 14 of 17
    rokrok Posts: 3,519member
    like you said, this may be a "bad batch/supplier change" issue, since not everyone is experiencing the problem. but considering the fact that when it hits you, it's the almost identical wacko symtoms that everyone else is experiencing, we're possibly talking the "r" word...


    'course, the press would seize on that in a second. i really had a hard time keeping myself from buying an emac to satisfy my G4 itch without breaking open the piggy bank too badly. but i must remind myself that of my promise to myself -- never buy a machine that you can't update either/both the processor and video card (it's alos the rule that generally keeps me from buying a laptop). i've made that mistake twice now. i MIGHT get a cheap ibook AND a low-to-mid range tower next time i buy (hell, iSync and my .mac membership could actually work to my advantage, instead of gathering dust).
  • Reply 15 of 17
    maskermasker Posts: 451member
    [quote]Originally posted by rok:

    <strong>" but i must remind myself that of my promise to myself " </strong><hr></blockquote>

    Allow myself to introduce.. myself. - Austin Powers
  • Reply 16 of 17
    steve666steve666 Posts: 2,600member
    I remember when i posted a while back that Apple was closing its most successful plants quality wise (Ireland, anything here in US) and moving their production to cheap outsourcing, etc while still keeping their high margins and ripping us off. I was ripped a new asshole when i made those remarks and I am here to say............

    Told ya so!

    Seriously, there is absolutely no reason to have any problems with a CRT. I sell cheapo Envision monitors and have no probs with them. All Apple had to do was use higher quality sources, such as NEC, for their products.

    You know what, I have a feeling Apple is going to lower the price of the base eMac to $999. The funny thing is, a tower for $999 would outsell the eMac by spades. Wouldn't a tower be cheaper to produce and less likely to malfunction?

    Come on, Steve J, get real, get over yourself, and sell us a less expensive tower!............................................ ....
  • Reply 17 of 17
    I don't think the outsourced manufacturing is the problem, (everyone uses it) I think the problem is the use of extremely low quality components that have been used in desktop Macs since the Blue G3.
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