Intel's "Sonoma" - What's up with that?

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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014

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  • Reply 1 of 19
    mr. memr. me Posts: 3,221member
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    You got me. Perhaps Intel should first answer the question: "How many people bought iPods for the chip?"
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  • Reply 2 of 19
    I suppose they expect you to be listening to 5.1 surround on your headphones....





    Ripped from music that was recorded for stereo playback....





    Nice job Intel. Makes sense.



    An impractical gimmick will definitely be an ipod killer.
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  • Reply 3 of 19
    Man I just don't get that article. Is this what intel calls marketing? Last time I checked Apple doesn't make chips. Don't get me wrong here, if this chip is as cool as they say, well then more power to them. But if this chip is so good then Apple might be interested in it. Are they trying to say that if Apple placed an order for them, Intel would say too bad? It just does not make any sense to me.
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  • Reply 4 of 19
    gene cleangene clean Posts: 3,481member
    Intel will challenge Apple. Why? Apple doesn't produce chips. It buys them. Let Intel challenge IBM if they wish, But Apple? iPod? Someone's been drinking too much.
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  • Reply 5 of 19
    Sonoma is the sucessor to Dothan, aka Centrino, aka Pentium-M with 2MB L2 cache, aka Pentium 700 series.



    It's an incremental upgrade with a boost to a 533MHz FSB, improved efficiency, performance and higher clockspeeds. The references to ipod-like devices probably refers to ultra-low voltage (ULV) version of Sonoma at about 1.1-1.3GHz that sips just about 1 to 3 W of power.



    The real shit will hit the fan for the PowerBook when intel introduces dual-core versions of its Pentium-M for laptops later this year.
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  • Reply 6 of 19
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    Originally posted by Existence

    Sonoma is the sucessor to Dothan, aka Centrino, aka Pentium-M with 2MB L2 cache, aka Pentium 700 series.



    It's an incremental upgrade with a boost to a 533MHz FSB, improved efficiency, performance and higher clockspeeds. The references to ipod-like devices probably refers to ultra-low voltage (ULV) version of Sonoma at about 1.1-1.3GHz that sips just about 1 to 3 W of power.



    The real shit will hit the fan for the PowerBook when intel introduces dual-core versions of its Pentium-M for laptops later this year.




    Jeez, I really hope that IBM or Freescale can come-up with an answer to that. I wonder how they will compare with dual core g4's.
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  • Reply 7 of 19
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,464member
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    The real shit will hit the fan for the PowerBook when intel introduces dual-core versions of its Pentium-M for laptops later this year.



    Man my OSX is gonna run like quicksilver on these ....no wait.
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  • Reply 8 of 19
    Like Existence said, Sonoma is the code-name for the 915 chipset based replacement for the Centrino mobile platform. It has all the Intel 915 features like Serial ATA, DDR2, HD audio, the new intel intergrated graphics. Its a good combo with a new 2MB cache Dothan processor with a 533Mhz FSB. Probably it will be faster than a 1.67Ghz Powerbook but it's still gotta run Windows so I ain't interested....
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  • Reply 9 of 19
    costiquecostique Posts: 1,084member
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    Originally posted by Existence

    Sonoma is the sucessor to Dothan, aka Centrino, aka Pentium-M with 2MB L2 cache, aka Pentium 700 series.



    It's an incremental upgrade with a boost to a 533MHz FSB, improved efficiency, performance and higher clockspeeds. The references to ipod-like devices probably refers to ultra-low voltage (ULV) version of Sonoma at about 1.1-1.3GHz that sips just about 1 to 3 W of power.




    What the hell does it have to do with iPods and 5.1 Surround?! Someone must be on crack to think that a 1 GHz CPU will be used in a portable music player - I'm afraid that much sooner all cell phones will run on Power6.



    I share the excitement about more efficient CPUs in notebooks, but portable music players will never need that much processing power, unless to play a thousand audio files simultaneously.\
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  • Reply 10 of 19
    addaboxaddabox Posts: 12,665member
    There must have been some edict from the editorial boards of America that all articles must reference the iPod, the Only Thing Anyone Cares About?

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  • Reply 11 of 19
    sunilramansunilraman Posts: 8,133member
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    Originally posted by addabox

    There must have been some edict from the editorial boards of America that all articles must reference the iPod, the Only Thing Anyone Cares About?



    yeah that's like using "nanotechnology" in your grant proposal will get you big dollars nowadays
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  • Reply 12 of 19
    daveleedavelee Posts: 245member
    'Apple's perceived lead in graphics'...?



    I think that says it all with regard to the quality of this report.
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  • Reply 13 of 19
    daveleedavelee Posts: 245member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Existence

    The real shit will hit the fan for the PowerBook when intel introduces dual-core versions of its Pentium-M for laptops later this year.



    I am not sure that these are scheduled for release this year, and check out the power consumption of the first dual core pentium-4...



    TheReg
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  • Reply 14 of 19
    benroethigbenroethig Posts: 2,782member
    The Pentium-M is a much better chip design than the P4. It doesn't have anywhere near the same power requirements as the P4.
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  • Reply 15 of 19
    daveleedavelee Posts: 245member
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    Originally posted by BenRoethig

    The Pentium-M is a much better chip design than the P4. It doesn't have anywhere near the same power requirements as the P4.



    Agreed, but the fact remains that Apple is not going to have it's mobile ass handed to it by dual-core P-Ms for a little while yet...
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  • Reply 16 of 19
    pbpb Posts: 4,255member
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    Originally posted by DaveLee

    Agreed, but the fact remains that Apple is not going to have it's mobile ass handed to it by dual-core P-Ms for a little while yet...



    Hmm, only hope for Apple is the dual-core 8641D from Freescale. If things go as scheduled, by this time next year we may have the first dual-core Powerbooks, along with the first dual-core x86 laptops. Otherwise, I see Intel alone for a while in this field. I don't know if the fact that the dual-core P-M is going to be a 65nm part, while the 8641D a 90nm one, can mean something.
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  • Reply 17 of 19
    daveleedavelee Posts: 245member
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    Originally posted by PB

    Hmm, only hope for Apple is the dual-core 8641D from Freescale. If things go as scheduled, by this time next year we may have the first dual-core Powerbooks, along with the first dual-core x86 laptops. Otherwise, I see Intel alone for a while in this field. I don't know if the fact that the dual-core P-M is going to be a 65nm part, while the 8641D a 90nm one, can mean something.



    Is that the supposed 64bit bookE core?

    That would be an interesting proposition. I would imagine (hope?) that all three of the Apple, IBM and Freescale partnership are busy working away in the background to counter the ground Intel is gaining in the low-power chip stakes.

    I would expect as well that the companies will be more circumspect in the move to a smaller process, based on the problems that 90nm has offered.
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  • Reply 18 of 19
    pbpb Posts: 4,255member
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    Originally posted by DaveLee

    Is that the supposed 64bit bookE core?



    No, it is the 32-bit e600. The 64-bit version is the e700, for which we have not yet announcement from Freescale. Not sure if we talk about the same thing.
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  • Reply 19 of 19
    Just out of interest, Toms hardware has posted a review of a new Sonoma based notebook and basically says it's nothing special AND battery life is worse (because of the PCI-E graphics card) so maybe the powerbook isn't in trouble just yet.
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