iMovie Video Store?

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in iPod + iTunes + AppleTV edited January 2014
There seems to be quite a bit of discussion that with the release of Tiger and QT7 (and it's new 264 video codec) that Apple seems poised to create an online video store in much the same way as the iTunes music store. Some have suggested that it would be integrated into iTunes somehow... but why? iTunes is designed to work with audio files and would be a horrible platform for playing movies. You'd need something more robust like iMovie. It's perfect. You have your categories of "clips" "effects" "photos" at the bottom, and pretty soon, the iMovie Video Store will be another one you can select from. It'll organize your downloaded videos in much the same way that iTunes organizes your music. Why else on God's green earth would you put HD support into a consumer editing program when any HD camera is going to cost at least $3000? If this is the year of HD then it has to go beyond cameras, right? iMovie went HD to support a new online video store. The only question really is when will it become available? I'm guessing shortly after the release of 10.4. Naturally you'll have to updgrade if you want to use the new store (and watch all those people who were happy with Panther start shelling out $129 for an upgrade).

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  • Reply 1 of 15
    nebagakidnebagakid Posts: 2,692member
    iPhoto is for your own content, iTunes is for other people's content, iMovie is for creating your own content, and iDVD is for outputting and sharing your content on DVDs.





    If anything, it will become part of QuickTime player. There is no need to muddle up iMovie. That is like saying they should put GarageBand and iTunes together, and it would just not work.



    I bet it will happen, and maybe it will happen this year, but there are still a lot of problems concerning bandwidth and copyright laws.



    Think more of something for tv............
  • Reply 2 of 15
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,268member
    Downloadable movies are not going to happen anytime soon. It's one thing to download a divx rip of a movie but quite another to get the experience that a DVD provides with the menus, audio support and other features. I haven't seen a download format today that can match the simplicity of a dvd. It's going to take more than just AVC and a smaller file size.
  • Reply 3 of 15
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Baron von Smiley

    Why else on God's green earth would you put HD support into a consumer editing program when any HD camera is going to cost at least $3000?



    Why on God's green earth would you put HD support into a consumer editing program when you can't even burn hi Def DVD's? Movie dowloads of any flavor wont be happening anytime soon. SUre companies, may start to offer it, but they'll go under very quickly becuase of bandwidth cost, not to mention a small market (and dont tell me there is a big market).
  • Reply 4 of 15
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Nebagakid



    If anything, it will become part of QuickTime player. There is no need to muddle up iMovie. That is like saying they should put GarageBand and iTunes together, and it would just not work.





    This makes the most sense to me also considering the vast amount of people that have windows machines that would not be able to access the movie store because there is no iMovie for PC. Quicktime is already out for both platforms so it would be an easy way to get a larger market to sell movies to.
  • Reply 5 of 15
    Quicktime will never cut it as the entry point into a video store. It lacks everything that Apple puts into their products. Mostly, it lacks class. They could have used quicktime for a music store, seeing as how it can play all the audio formats and it was cross platform. They chose to integrate it into iTunes because that was their classier music player. iMovie would be a perfect outlet for an online video store. It gives you the timeline at the bottom for jumping to specific points in the film. It can export directly to iDVD. It can do it all. Things will be changed in it to accomodate the store, but it's the only logical choice as the platform for introducing an online video store.
  • Reply 6 of 15
    brussellbrussell Posts: 9,812member
    Yeah, iMovie doesn't make sense as a client. Maybe something more like this. (And note that Apple is advertising a product on their web site that has a bittorrent function.
  • Reply 7 of 15
    nebagakidnebagakid Posts: 2,692member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Baron von Smiley

    Quicktime will never cut it as the entry point into a video store. It lacks everything that Apple puts into their products. Mostly, it lacks class. They could have used quicktime for a music store, seeing as how it can play all the audio formats and it was cross platform. They chose to integrate it into iTunes because that was their classier music player. iMovie would be a perfect outlet for an online video store. It gives you the timeline at the bottom for jumping to specific points in the film. It can export directly to iDVD. It can do it all. Things will be changed in it to accomodate the store, but it's the only logical choice as the platform for introducing an online video store.



    It definitely isn't logical to make iMovie into a personal movie creation app as well as a commercial movie watching app. It would muddle up the entire interface, how could your turn from one section to another. I bet you all my AppleInsider Credits on the fact that if there is ever a movie store, it is not in the format you are talking about. People use a simple viewer, such as QuickTime Player, DVD Player, or VLC, just fine.



    Again, iMovie is for creating your own content, iTunes is for other people's content you sort out.
  • Reply 8 of 15
    nebagakidnebagakid Posts: 2,692member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Baron von Smiley

    Why else on God's green earth would you put HD support into a consumer editing program when any HD camera is going to cost at least $3000?



    Because offering HD is a wise choice for a company on the cutting edge of movie editing. Because there are a number of people who would buy a $3000 for amazoing quality, and use a consumer editing program. There are tons of reasons.
  • Reply 9 of 15
    xoolxool Posts: 2,460member
    iMovie HD: Your homemade porn never looked so good.



    Final Cut Express HD: When the money shot matters most.





    But seriously, I think porn will be a huge driving factor for HD. Porn will easily push HD farther than mainstream content, at least at the beginning.



    Not that Apple's gonna open iFlixxx anytime soon.
  • Reply 10 of 15
    relicrelic Posts: 4,735member
    A Movie download service is inevitable; this market is too juicy for Apple to ignore forever. I for one download at least two movies a day, yes illegally through torrents but I don?t have any other choice. I don?t have time to go the rental store and nor do I want to have DVD?s sent to me. I would change my illegal ways in a heartbeat if I had a reasonable viable service available to me; I think Apple could provide this. What?s a 4mbit line good for anyway if your not going to saturate it with multimedia goodness.
  • Reply 11 of 15
    xoolxool Posts: 2,460member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Relic

    A Movie download service is inevitable; this market is too juicy for Apple to ignore forever. I for one download at least two movies a day, yes illegally through torrents but I don?t have any other choice. I don?t have time to go the rental store and nor do I want to have DVD?s sent to me. I would change my illegal ways in a heartbeat if I had a reasonable viable service available to me; I think Apple could provide this. What?s a 4mbit line good for anyway if your not going to saturate it with multimedia goodness.



    So you're buying the DVD or renting it via Netflix and downloading it before your paid-for purchase arrives? Or are you using the lack of legit channels to rationalize your piracy? Not that I have a major problem with it either way, depending on the content.
  • Reply 12 of 15
    feraliferali Posts: 173member
    why not put it into DVD player? itunes plays CDs as well as downloaded music, DVD player can play movies from DVD as well as movies that are downloaded. sounds kool to me, just they have to come up witha better name then "DVD Player" then they would be set.
  • Reply 13 of 15
    rolandgrolandg Posts: 632member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by BRussell

    Yeah, iMovie doesn't make sense as a client. Maybe something more like this. (And note that Apple is advertising a product on their web site that has a bittorrent function.



    Hmmmm, I think iFlix looks ugly... why not buy Delicious Monster and tweak it a little.



    I think a UI that resembles a regular rental place (i.e. shelves with covers) would work best. Add the advancements made possible by modern technology (i.e. previews, trailers, rating systems, iCollection (the equivalent to iTune's iMixes) etc.) and maybe an assitent that can make recommendations... perfect.



    And I also am of the opinion that (similar to the iTunes/Garageband-consumption/oragnising/creation-app separation) it should either be integrated into the Quicktime/DVD-player (I will never understand why they are separate apps) or into a completely new app.
  • Reply 14 of 15
    geobegeobe Posts: 235member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by RolandG

    Hmmmm, I think iFlix looks ugly... why not buy Delicious Monster and tweak it a little.



    I think a UI that resembles a regular rental place (i.e. shelves with covers) would work best. Add the advancements made possible by modern technology (i.e. previews, trailers, rating systems, iCollection (the equivalent to iTune's iMixes) etc.) and maybe an assitent that can make recommendations... perfect.



    And I also am of the opinion that (similar to the iTunes/Garageband-consumption/oragnising/creation-app separation) it should either be integrated into the Quicktime/DVD-player (I will never understand why they are separate apps) or into a completely new app.






    Great idea
  • Reply 15 of 15
    gongon Posts: 2,437member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by hmurchison

    Downloadable movies are not going to happen anytime soon. It's one thing to download a divx rip of a movie but quite another to get the experience that a DVD provides with the menus, audio support and other features. I haven't seen a download format today that can match the simplicity of a dvd. It's going to take more than just AVC and a smaller file size.



    The less "experience" and more movie, the better.

    I have long held that the whole menu system should not exist, it's a better idea to have consistent menus across all movies and that means the player will have to provide the menus.

    If the net movie is a rental, it cuts down on the amount and time to download if you get to choose the sound and visual quality ahead of time. Of course you should get somewhat lower pricing if you watch lower resolution, since the store saves bandwidth.
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