HD-DVD v. Blu-Ray

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groveratgroverat
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in General Discussion edited January 2014
This is apparently a hot topic and here's my question: Is there any real reason to care?



Here's what it boils down to:

Blu-Ray holds more.

HD-DVD is cheaper.



Am I missing something in this argument that should make me care about this? I know that Blu-Ray is the hip choice for technology buffs, but is there a real reason why?



To me it just looks like mega-corps fighting over who gets to control the media.



Educate me, please.

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  • Reply 1 of 12
    ipodandimacipodandimac Posts: 3,273member
    you're right on. blu-ray seems to be everyone's choice here, but hd-dvd would become widespread faster and cheaper because manufacturers wouldn't have to totally ditch their current factories. I personally don't care which one wins, just that writers become quickly available for Mac's when one format wins, but a lot of people are obsessing over it for no damn reason.
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  • Reply 2 of 12
    danielctulldanielctull Posts: 586member
    Either way our DVD collections will become obsolete....





    Am I the only one to think this is too soon after DVD? The gap between VHS and DVD was much bigger. I am grateful for the extra quality as DVDs on my computer do look a bit shabby.



    PS What form of HD will DVDs use? It better be 1920 x 1080 for some kind of future-proofing...
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  • Reply 3 of 12
    telomartelomar Posts: 1,804member
    Well there are two reasons Blu-Ray is the favourite. First so far HD-DVD has done a very poor job simply because it lacks the capacity. At CES their display had quite a number of noticeable artifacts. Second Blu-Ray actually has room to grow.



    It's really a matter of do you want the quick fix or something that'll work over the longer term.



    Probably the best write up I've seen.
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  • Reply 4 of 12
    andersanders Posts: 6,523member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Telomar



    It's really a matter of do you want the quick fix or something that'll work over the longer term.



    Oh. You mean like future proof technology?
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  • Reply 5 of 12
    danielctulldanielctull Posts: 586member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Anders

    Oh. You mean like future proof technology?



    We can only hope this format lasts longer than 10 years before it's phased out... (See my post above )
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  • Reply 6 of 12
    nebagakidnebagakid Posts: 2,692member
    No one is forcing you to buy these new formated movies. (although, in a way they may eventually stop making regular DVDs, but they are also still making VHSes!)



    Go Blu-Ray!
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  • Reply 7 of 12
    oldcodger73oldcodger73 Posts: 707member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by danielctull

    Either way our DVD collections will become obsolete....



    Am I the only one to think this is too soon after DVD?



    Are you kidding? People still watch VHS. I still watch my laserdisc collection. And I even occasionally listen to an LP.



    As to your second question, you can't stop techological advances. But that also poses the question, is HD/Blu-Ray that much better and something that the average consumer will embrace or will they see it as something being fobbed off on them so that the manufacturers/media companies can sell new equipment and raise DVD prices? The thing that continues to amaze me on DVDs is that the media companies have been unable to keep artificially high prices on DVDs as they were able to do on CDs.



    A final thought, I would expect moderators to read the various boards. Why was this posted here, by a moderator no less, when there's a very active thread in future hardware. I guess this another example of the new and "improved" AI.
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  • Reply 8 of 12
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,464member
    Now THIS is the best HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray article that you will read



    Somepeople will know that I'm fighting for HD-DVD but the reality is I'm buying both formats and I don't believe HD-DVD to be inferior in the context of movie distribution.



    Here it is in a nutshell.



    Blu-Ray is a geeks wet dream for movies. It has the sizzle. Built in Java and Internet support(unlock additional content on the disc...ding ding the Porn industry will LOVE this). 50GB dual layer support. Support for DTS-HD and Dolby Digital+



    HD-DVD is the lunchpail worker in overalls. It's going to be cheaper than Blu-Ray..we need to face that fact. So eventually it's going to come down to price. Thus I think HD-DVD will have what it takes to survive based on that alone.
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  • Reply 9 of 12
    dmzdmz Posts: 5,775member
    As long as they don't adopt "Death-Ray" technology I think we'll all live.
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  • Reply 10 of 12
    formerlurkerformerlurker Posts: 2,686member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by dmz

    As long as they don't adopt "Death-Ray" technology I think we'll all live.



    It makes you turn BLUE!!!1!1
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  • Reply 11 of 12
    telomartelomar Posts: 1,804member
    I just don't see why if you were interested in going for HD you would skimp with a disc that really lacks the capacity to adequately support the full experience at the sort of quality you'd expect. HD-DVD has had consistent issues with bleed and artifacts and in terms of cost difference I don't expect it to be that significant outside of about the first year.
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  • Reply 12 of 12
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,464member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Telomar

    I just don't see why if you were interested in going for HD you would skimp with a disc that really lacks the capacity to adequately support the full experience at the sort of quality you'd expect. HD-DVD has had consistent issues with bleed and artifacts and in terms of cost difference I don't expect it to be that significant outside of about the first year.



    I haven't read my positive statements about the cost of producing Blu-Ray from any plants. The problem that many are sensing with the BDA is that still haven't been able to nail down any information about costs. We keep hearing "Blu-Ray is going to be a %10 premium" but more and more it's looking like Blu-Ray may be as high as %15 over DVD production. Blu-Ray is a very enticing piece of kit. As an multimedia author you are going to be jazzed at the Java included and the controls that Blu-Ray gives you where you can access the Internet and and ship discs with unlockable content. Cool stuff but I think the BDA promised these features at a small price premium and more and more it's looking like they might not be able to hit this.



    As for HD-DVD I hope they never have a poor demo of the platform from here on. They use the same codecs as Blu-Ray so there's no excuse for crappy demos. Frankly for movies the storage issue is so overblown. MPEG2 is on its way out and AVC and VC-1 will assume control. With HD content in these new codecs at around 6GB per hour or less Single Layer HD-DVD and Blu-Ray hold 2.5hs and 4hrs respectively.



    I can't wait to get a HDTV and both players. I care about the movies the most.
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