Next PB line/update
Well,
I did a big mistake and left my PB 12" on my car rooftop and driven away..
You get the point. Now I need a new computer, but I don't know if I should buy a new PB 12" right now, cause the lineup is from 31 January. Well, its old, 6 month old.
My question is, will the new lineup be presented at Paris Expo and what we will expect from Apple?
New Design with some new stuff?
Faster G4 Ghz?
Intel?
Dual-Core G4?
Please help me, I have a big problem...
or maybe I should buy a Vaio and wait for cracked MacOS X?
I did a big mistake and left my PB 12" on my car rooftop and driven away..
You get the point. Now I need a new computer, but I don't know if I should buy a new PB 12" right now, cause the lineup is from 31 January. Well, its old, 6 month old.
My question is, will the new lineup be presented at Paris Expo and what we will expect from Apple?
New Design with some new stuff?
Faster G4 Ghz?
Intel?
Dual-Core G4?
Please help me, I have a big problem...
or maybe I should buy a Vaio and wait for cracked MacOS X?
Comments
Originally posted by danko
Well,
I did a big mistake and left my PB 12" on my car rooftop and driven away..
You get the point. Now I need a new computer, but I don't know if I should buy a new PB 12" right now, cause the lineup is from 31 January. Well, its old, 6 month old.
My question is, will the new lineup be presented at Paris Expo and what we will expect from Apple?
New Design with some new stuff?
Faster G4 Ghz?
Intel?
Dual-Core G4?
Please help me, I have a big problem...
or maybe I should buy a Vaio and wait for cracked MacOS X?
1) No
2) Probably 1.8 GHz, possibly 2 GHz
3) No
4) No
No Intel Powerbooks until at least January, I'm guessing April. A new design or dual-core G4 would require a new motherboard. The Freescale 7448 is a drop-in replacement for the current G4 and should be available about the time of the Paris Expo. It should be slightly faster but its main benefit may be longer battery life.
Originally posted by Maddan
1) No
2) Probably 1.8 GHz, possibly 2 GHz
3) No
4) No
No Intel Powerbooks until at least January, I'm guessing April. A new design or dual-core G4 would require a new motherboard. The Freescale 7448 is a drop-in replacement for the current G4 and should be available about the time of the Paris Expo. It should be slightly faster but its main benefit may be longer battery life.
Why not buy a 12in iBook to tide you over until Intel time? They hold their value pretty well on eBay so you could afford to upgrade whenever Intel PowerBooks comes out
Why not buy a 12in iBook to tide you over until Intel time? They hold their value pretty well on eBay so you could afford to upgrade whenever Intel PowerBooks comes out
What happens to their value when the Intel notebooks do come out?
Originally posted by CosmoNut
What happens to their value when the Intel notebooks do come out? They'll probably hold their value better than a comparable PC, but not as well as a Mac with PowerPC.
My guess is that the question was what happens to the value of PPC iBooks when the Intel iBooks come out. I suspect they still hold their value in proportion to the degree of improved performance offered by the Intel iBooks, and I see no reason that the Intel iBook won't hold its value against newer Intel iBooks as well as PPC iBooks have held their value against updated PPC iBooks. Remember, not much is going to change. Apple notebooks will retain the same quality and design that they're famous for and they will run on Tiger or Leopord or whatever permutation of renowned OS Apple has put out for years.
If you are planning on buying a Powerbook laptop now before the new updates in September, I hope you're willing to take the hit if you want to sell it in a few months!
I'm waiting to buy!
Don't NEED it NOW !!!
PowerBook Prices will PLUMMIT... just like the G4 Powermac prices did when the G5 PowerMac came out.
I also think that this will happen.
Originally posted by skatman
I also think that this will happen.
If it were G5 Powerbooks that were coming out, I would agree, but that's not what's happening; the analogy doesn't work. With Powermacs you had one PPC supplanting a previous generation. With Powerbooks, you'll have a G4 not replaced by another PPC but by an Intel. It really depends on how big the mad rush is to get an Intel Powerbook.
With Powermacs you had one PPC supplanting a previous generation. With Powerbooks, you'll have a G4 not replaced by another PPC but by an Intel.
And how are the 2 different, especially to an average MAC enduser?
Originally posted by skatman
And how are the 2 different, especially to an average MAC enduser?
Well, this may be exactly the point! To the average Mac user, the next Powerbook might just seem like another slightly updated version, only x months better than the previous version. The degree to which the price of the G4 is going to plummet is proportional to its PERCEIVED obsolesence, which is largely but not soley a function of Apple's marketing panache. How Apple will market the new Intel Powerbook is anyone's guess. They can make the customer believe that the new Powerbook makes the old one a piece of shit, in which case the G4 Powerbook prices plummet, and Apple gets bruised for selling "piece of shit" G4 Powerbooks to the customers who bought them right before the transition. Or Apple makes the customer believe the new Powerbook is worthy, but the old one is still potent. As I said before, I don't disagree with you. I just think the price reaction will be controllable depending on how Apple spins it.
Originally posted by KCOM2006
PowerBook Prices will PLUMMIT... just like the G4 Powermac prices did when the G5 PowerMac came out.
Funny stuff. At one point you could buy a new PowerMac G5 with the money people was prepared to offer the last generation of G4s that could boot into classic...
It all depends on 1) how well Rosetta will work and 2) How fast highly Altivec optimized apps is ported. Depending on the answers to those questions the last non intel Powermac/-Book could become gold mines.
Originally posted by surfacenuts
Well, this may be exactly the point! To the average Mac user, the next Powerbook might just seem like another slightly updated version, only x months better than the previous version. The degree to which the price of the G4 is going to plummet is proportional to its PERCEIVED obsolesence, which is largely but not soley a function of Apple's marketing panache. How Apple will market the new Intel Powerbook is anyone's guess. They can make the customer believe that the new Powerbook makes the old one a piece of shit, in which case the G4 Powerbook prices plummet, and Apple gets bruised for selling "piece of shit" G4 Powerbooks to the customers who bought them right before the transition. Or Apple makes the customer believe the new Powerbook is worthy, but the old one is still potent. As I said before, I don't disagree with you. I just think the price reaction will be controllable depending on how Apple spins it.
I would agree if it was the iSeries. But pro customers tend to be able to take the raw data and look at it objectively.
Originally posted by Anders
Funny stuff. At one point you could buy a new PowerMac G5 with the money people was prepared to offer the last generation of G4s that could boot into classic...
It all depends on 1) how well Rosetta will work and 2) How fast highly Altivec apps is ported. Depending on the answers to those questions the last non intel Powermac/-Book could become gold mines.
Yeah, it all depends on whether they offer capabilities that the new Intel machines don't. I can remember that the last pre-PPC Macs held their value very well for a while, and the last pre-G3 towers (the last full-size towers Apple ever made) were still highly sought after years later. So if the transition is anything but perfectly transparent, PPC "pro" hardware especially will probaby hold its value nicely for a few years.
The consumer lines probably won't do as well, since the market for the old generation is always driven by Pros with specialized needs.
Originally posted by 00100011
How is this an update?
I'm not saying it's going to be an update; it's not. I'm saying I don't know how Apple it going to spin (market) it. What is key is the perception of a thing, not the thing itself. And, yes Anders, while purchasers of the pro lines are undoubtedly more discerning than those of the consumer lines, they still fall prey to Apple's hype. You can bet that Apple has pro consumers utterly dialed in and figured out. I make a generaliztion for Americans, who MUST HAVE the latest & greatest.