Launch Time Experiment under 10.1.3

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in Mac Software edited January 2014
After placing the dock on the bottom of the screen and keeping it fully expanded, I did an experiment and found some interesting results.



1. Turned off all other apps besides Finder (which had no window open, it was just "active" like always).



2. Turned on the seconds display on my menu clock.



3. Launched app when seconds reached zero or a multiple of 10, then rounded up to the next second when all windows, palettes, etc. were displayed and ready for use.



Here's what I found on my G4/500 (1GB RAM, 7200 RPM drive):





APP............Time 1.......Time 2.......Time 3

AI 10.0.1......9 Seconds....9 Seconds....9 sec

ID 2.0.........10 seconds...5 seconds....5 sec

GL 6.0.........15 seconds...12 seconds...12 sec

Mozilla .9.9...6 seconds....6 seconds....na

Entourage X....4 seconds....4 seconds....na

Painter 7.1.3..8 seconds....4 seconds....4 sec





That last one REALLY surprised me. I don't know if it has anything to do with it, but the last time I quit, I saved a custom palette set beforehand. So I don't know if maybe selecting fewer open palettes and then saving that as the default will allow the app to launch much more quickly, or what...but something changed. P7 is usually dog-slow when launching - until now anyway (or at least under those circumstances noted above). Also interesting to note how InDesign and Painter launch times get cut in half after initial loading, but Illustrator and most of the others do not.



Admittedly the more apps that are running beforehand will have a big effect (I think) but still the results were interesting. Have to see how 10.2 aids in the responsiveness of app launching and overall performance. Also curious (like everyone else) to see how PS 7 fares.





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Comments

  • Reply 1 of 9
    serranoserrano Posts: 1,806member
    ars did a writ up on this
  • Reply 2 of 9
    moogsmoogs Posts: 4,296member
    When? Linkage?
  • Reply 3 of 9
    Inside every moderate is a coward who accepts the status quo.



  • Reply 4 of 9
    moogsmoogs Posts: 4,296member
    Yah, almost. What precisely does that have to do with OS X launch times though?



    <img src="graemlins/surprised.gif" border="0" alt="[Surprised]" />
  • Reply 5 of 9
    moogsmoogs Posts: 4,296member
    *bump*



    Add to the list:



    LiveMotion 2.0



    Check this out...when iTunes is running - 28 seconds! When it's not running, 14 seconds. Can you say "needs work?"







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  • Reply 6 of 9
    So, you get better system performance with he dock at the bottom and fully expanded?



    During this test, was this after a re-boot to make sure that any program you might have used prior was not still in memory?



    My Entourage also takes 4 second to launch and I also have a gig of RAM - but I have a 700MHz G3. I guess that's the power of a G4! Maybe it's your hard drive. I am sure Apple uses 5400rpm HDs in the iMacs - not 7200rpm.



    I am going to test a few myself! After a re-boot of course.



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  • Reply 7 of 9
    moogsmoogs Posts: 4,296member
    Uhm...I can't really tell conclusively about Dock positioning as a factor in application performance. I got sick of it obscuring the bottom of my windows (now I remember why I moved it in the first place) and am now using it along the right edge of my screen. I find this is a little better than on the left edge because it doesn't mess with Adobe's toolbars. Also it seems a little more intuitive to me there because that's where I used to look in OS 9 to see which app was active, access hard drives, etc.



    As far as app launching speed, I've noticed no real differences between having it fully extended along the right edge (top to bottom) vs. when it was extended along the bottom of the screen. I notice the Dock itself is more responsive now, but nothing with the apps as of yet.



    I hadn't restarted before my earlier test, but I had started a new login session if I remember correctly. When I was speaking of "apps running beforehand", I meant before I clicked a given Dock icon. So in my hypothetical example, other apps would still be running - and thus would naturally bog things down - that's what I avoided during my experiment.



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  • Reply 8 of 9
    bellebelle Posts: 1,574member
    Initial launch times don't really bother me. I leave all the apps I use daily running, and just hide them while they're not in use. In OS X, you don't get a performance hit as long as you have a reasonable amount of physical memory... EXCEPT... and this is what does annoy me:



    Too many apps are badly written and will take processor cycles and memory resources even when idle. It's so aggravating to see an app taking up 7% of processor cycles when you haven't used it in a day, and it shouldn't be doing anything in the background. It's bad coding, and I hate it.



    So there.
  • Reply 9 of 9
    moogsmoogs Posts: 4,296member
    You make a good point. I'm not sure if this is in part due to Apple's code (as opposed to developer code) but either way hopefully a combination of 10.2 system-level optmizations and various app dot releases will remedy this in large part. Either way, I'm quickly finding out that the biggest reason for upgrading my system hardware is to rid myself of these issues all together. I'm wondering to what extent people with the new dual gig models experience these kinds of issues under 10.1.x, or if everything just hauls ass and so it doesn't matter.



    I imagine with the next generation of Power Macs (assuming they use faster bus speeds and RAM) than many of the app launch times I noted above would be literally cut in half, or more....
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